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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1224147 times)

Offline IotaYodi

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3990 on: October 28, 2011, 01:46:28 AM »
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id imagine you would have to have constant current running through it 
Or just plain electrostatic charge buildup like on a carpet.
You started a monster thread here Joe.  :)

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3991 on: October 28, 2011, 03:48:51 AM »
Gonna throw out something from left field that may or may not have been mentioned.  Is it possible that what got the SB working was in fact magnetic current, and its being changed into standard current was what Stubblefield used for electrical power?  An interesting observation:
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Tesla and Leedskalnin made discoveries regarding magnetic current that would "change the world".  We know Leedskalnins perpetual motion holder is basically a room temperature super conductor and once you know its lovely workings you can efficiently push 'standard' current into magnetic current back to standard current with virtually no loss.
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http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11029.msg291298#msg291298

This hypothesis might square well with the mention I made earlier of new work of Mehran Keshe, who explained that light is the product of interacting magnetic plasmatic fields. I queried as to whether the mag field of the SB was interacting with the mag field of the earth to produce the glowing points on the Stubblefield landscape.
http://keshefoundation.com/en/

Has this magnetic field dog been sufficiently addressed, or does it deserve further flogging?

(No animals were harmed in the making of this post :)
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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3993 on: October 31, 2011, 12:02:28 AM »
Right on Yodi!
                  I wish i had more time and money to experiment with things.  After a few years of retrospect and checking out dozens of technologies. I still wish i could crack this one!

 Somehow this guy used that battery as a magnetic current pump that eventually aligned itself with the earth field aether whatever people wanna call it. But i dont think it was the pitchblende on the property.  I imagine that using the earths mag feild as a carrier wave for his ground radio transmiter/earth battery was awesome but then he realized that a modification of the same device could tap into the "carrier wave" for power instead of just sending a modulated signal imposed on it. I think this is where the real mystery behind the device started . Now in modern times we might not need to prime a cell for days like he did just understand the principals behind it.

Start back with music and standing wave theory and i still thing this devices potential is realized when the collapse on the core is plucking a harmonic that the earth will resonate back to. its the sequence that matters and the freq.   

Another musical logic that applies. im a guitar player- "if one play's certain notes at the right intervals they build off each other creatively(constructively)"the amplitude raises on its own. we call that "resonating"..  I read some tesla lately and one analogy fit awesome with this.. He always talks about a "disturbance in the medium" and resonance ect.  We have to disturb our medium properly and at the right interval so it will resonate. so to end the philosophical talk,

What im really saying here is maybe we need to look at the magnetic properties of this a bit more  with the understanding that were creating a device that uses a minor galvanic current to power a magnetic induction transformer. for this transformer to work it needs to strike the right note with the much larger magnetic feild around it. I think thats the logic behind this device. may be wrong but its where all my signs have been pointing.

It goes back to the opera singer and the wine glass!!!!!  the earth is our opera singer with a constant pitch maybe little variable but we wont go there.. the stubblefield battery is    "a tuneable wineglass"  when we put it at the proper freq it should resonate on its own with no power input needed.. At that point if it is resonating on its own this would mean the internal magnetic field via collapse is creating plenty of energy for the secondary to disperse  "call it free energy or just resonate pump"

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3994 on: October 31, 2011, 12:48:24 AM »
Just had a moment in the shower thinking about all this...


         Tesla wasn't mad at all and at the end he claimed that he could communicate with other planets in our solar system.. He was dead on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Riddle me this--- I proposed stubblefield used the earths magnetic feild as a carrier wave for communications and or a direct source of power.  so if we use a small electromagnet to resonate with the earths feild to achieve that it makes sense and alot of elf and ground wave radio stuff uses these principals.

 So in essence we have smaller magnetic feild resonating with larger magnetic feild and allowing for seamless communication .earth battery and the earth.

   Now the suns magnetic field must have some effect on the earth .. what carrier wave would be present on all planets......... the SUN! Little did we know that the ancients were right .. power really does come from the sun.

So what dawned upon me is we need to look at how the sun interacts with the planets as dominant magnetic feild that sustains the indivudal planets magnetic feilds, to understand a unified feild theory. Not all this electron proton bullshit.   Electricity is a byproduct of destroying magnetic feild energy its the only logical conclusion.


Now i could be completly nuts but alot of these concepts seem to fall in place when looking at the bigger picture!!

We started here long ago arguing about an on off mechanism that creates a magnetic feild in a core and disturbs a secondary coil to produce power.. At first i thought it was a device that would produce a constant current as long as the inital galvanic charge was there to keep the "relay"/ on off device going...  Basic primary coil switched on off very fast to produce juice in a secondary.

Now i see this as much more i see a device that uses basic battery principals to start a device that will resonate with a magnetic field around it.. The act of doing this is where the real power is ! 

The logic behind the sun and the planets is what cracked my noggin open a little wider on this one.. i think i was missing the big picture when we started off here years back.

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3995 on: October 31, 2011, 03:47:39 AM »

What you are saying makes a lot of sense to me joe...and may be the most reliable source of energy...unless of course the pole shift really does happen.

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3996 on: October 31, 2011, 06:08:46 PM »
Thanks cap,

          Sometimes as we grow so do our minds and we look at things not for the visible explanations (whats right there in front of your face) but really for there purpose or how they work :) 
         Now ive gotta go find all the stubblefield parts and try this again


As far  a the interrupter i say we just try a regular old magnetic relay not actuated off the core, actuated on its own like a el cheap radioshack jobber!  I think looking at this thing as a tunable wine glass is the best anagaly i can make to get this project moving further than it has.  the core with very little magnetism is key as well that way the fields can collapse easily and give good discharge on the secondary once the ringing in tune.

Ok now dont laugh im going to ask some questions on my mind.-
                 How do we accurately sing out to mother earth.??? Ive got plenty of freq charts for shumman resonanse and charts for harmonics and octives. but theres something here that sits in my head that must have some bearing on this.

I talked about resonance and wine glasses ect.. every example of a "creative/constructive" is based off of phi 1.618.  there must be some logic behind it.. shauaberger realized that was the key to the vortex build..

We need to all be musicians here for a little bit and
1- find a way to play a note to the earth that will resonate with her magnetic field
2- find a way to measure or evaluate what gets sung back!
3- after testing find a self resonating interval that will yeild the symbiosis were looking for

 a neon on the secondary should be enough to show us its working maybe even a little mod of an adverenko plug(single wire transmission)

No one really knows what kind of energy will come of the secondary. is it hf too high were meters wont register it but it might have great electrostatic potentials????????  i think a neon shoould do it for initial tests then maybe a little bank of neons

also ive thought about building electrostatic caps out of glass boylans soda bottles salt water and a metal container with salt water in it.  I think that maybe with the potentials were dealing with some old school playing may be necessary to see things modern science has since turned a blind eye to

Whats the diff between how tesla measured cps and how herts measured hz ??

With a smart group like we have here evaluating these questions i bet all the answers are right here just a little discussion needed 


All this testing must be done with the thing burried... so wires should be wound to uniform lengths that will give us a wide span of freq response in conjunction with a cheap relay and variable radio cap or whatever is used.. I think i was so intent on making that interrupter work the way stubblefield did and not realizing it was only part of a lrc circuit used to excite magnetic current in an iron core... duh
that i missed what i was really looking for with the device.

even crazier analogy.. when one uses a plunger in the toilet.. did u ever notice that if you do the plunges air tight and at the right pace meaning in meter or proper interval tap your foot like a musician.. (nuts right) that the suction works 9 times better to undo the clog... or in our case release the flow..... let that one rattle around the noggin a bit with the ns coil in mind

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3997 on: October 31, 2011, 06:35:13 PM »
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Whats the diff between how tesla measured cps and how herts measured hz ??
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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3998 on: October 31, 2011, 09:09:00 PM »
So now my question arises how does the sun affect or determine angular frequency w(omega) of the earth and the other planets. Its the relationship i must understand how the suns gravity affects angular freq .. I know already that planets closer to the sun get stronger gravitational waves imposed on them and that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave

"Two objects orbiting each other in a quasi-Keplerian planar orbit (basically, as a planet would orbit the Sun) will radiate" -wikipedia

Gravity doesent explain it .. it seems  that somethiing else here gives energy to our earth to power its electromagnet and keep is spinning. some unknown force from the sun maaybe

Theres a reason tesla preferred cps and i has to do directly with this.

Does the super charged plasma from the solar wind hitting the earth play a more ready part in our planets energy cycle  and angular freq than we know?


maybe i should look at this mystery backwards- what kind of power source is needed to keep the earths electromagnet powered creating a magnetic field here and sustaining life.  Think of the earth as a em motor i guess most broken down part

so if i were to have a working motor and no power source how would i determine a proper input source for the motor....  this relationship between the sun and earth will unlock the rest if understood.. feel like were close too. weve got way more gagets than the old boys did just not the proper education becuase they dont exist post 1920!!!  Fracking oil companies can let any one have anything nice!


I guess all this prolly isnt needed but theres a whole leg of physics thats been left by the wayside and i believe that its up to inventors like us to push forward if for nothing else out of respect for the wall sockets with ac power in our house right now and the pioneering men that tried to lead our world down a better path!

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #3999 on: October 31, 2011, 10:20:13 PM »
Interesting note

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely       -credit


Some believe that the research of Nathan Stubblefield and his Earth battery system utilizing copper rods and iron rods. One could sink them in, probably, even at best, utilize Stephan Reiss's method for water-production by drilling very deep into the rock to hit fresh water - so Keely connected with Stubblefield, and Reiss hinted at equals battery-power from the earth's magnetic field using the earth-battery or magnetic induction amplifier of stubblefield, then this can be used for voice transmission over long distances, and also then a specific shape vibrated and driven into the ground, for water-receival.


now that im searching for the right thing its odd how many places its casually mentioned

@Iotayodi

i think your dead on with the tree antennas i looks like theres reports of huge cables going from the trees on the property back to the house it was said that an arc lamp was connected inbetween the tree antenna on the tree and the house...

arc lamp is a hell of a resistive load .. but it would be a constant on all the trees if built the same and would be the "constant" i was looking for concerning the pith ball array.. scary right lets use trees as antennas and well appearently humans must distort there natural magnetic feild enough to cause a change in power to the arc lamp resulting in the movement of a pith ball in teh apporopiate spot on the board in the house

... this might be easily buildable, or at least tryable

http://freeenergyportal.blogspot.com/2011/06/nathan-stubblefield-earth-battery.html - this place doesent mention the pith ball array but talks about the cables from the trees and the arc lamps.. seems to be the other part if it. what do you think?

great quote from that page

Now," Tesla writes later on about the transmitter that he was developing, "I attacked vigorously the development of my magnifying transmitter, now however, not so much with the original intention of producing one of great power, as with the object of learning how to construct the best one. This is essentially, a circuit of high self-induction and small resistance ( key words coming up) which in its arrangement, mode of excitation and section and action, may be said to be the diametrical opposite of a transmitting circuit typical of telegraphy by Hertzian or electromagnetic radiations."
What Stubblefield had discovered and what he did with his system.
Stubblefield was experimenting with ground radio since 1882, but did not patent his developments until much later. Credible witnesses saw his ground radio experiments in action during this time frame, establishing the historical priority of Stubblefield. While Marconi could barely send telegraphic "dots and dash" signals with great difficulty through a static-filled medium, Nathan Stubblefield had already transmitted the human voice with loud, velvet clarity. Others would adopt and implement the Collins system (Fessenden, DeForest, Bethenod, Braun), but none could duplicate the Stubblefield System.
Nikola Tesla performed double ground experiments with impulses as early as 1892, reporting these in lectures and patenting some embodiments in 1901. Not one of these later systems ever achieved the same results of clarity, tone, and volume of Stubblefield ground telephony. Tesla apparently never discovered the true powerpoints which powered Stubblefield's device. Priority in all these arts belongs to Nathan Stubblefield alone. In addition, his was the only system in which natural energies were obtained, magnified, and entirely employed as the empowering source. All other inventors used "artificial" sources (batteries, alternators, dynamos).
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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #4000 on: October 31, 2011, 10:56:15 PM »

Regarding the relationship between the sun and the earth, this mayb= have some relevance here.

http://coupmedia.org/astro-physics/earth-does-not-orbit-the-sun-2707


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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #4001 on: November 01, 2011, 03:01:45 AM »
Localjoe:

Man, it is really great to see you back here again.  We have sure come a long way since you stuck those screws into the ground.  I don't have much time these days but I am glad to see the work continuing here.  I agree with your latest posts and one day, all of this will come together.

In a related technology, have you seen what has been happening in the Kapanadze topic area?  Already one replication and I know that technology is related to Stubblefield.

Bill

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Re: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications
« Reply #4002 on: November 01, 2011, 03:26:29 PM »
@Cap-Z-ro  Astounding videos. Everyone should watch these.

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Interesting picture I never came accross before. My apologies if this was laready posted and I missed it. At any rate it has the name Love on its right edge, the person assigned 1/2 of the 1898 patent. These appear as standard inductive coils of the era and not exactly the coils outlined in the patent. But there are general constructional and proporational similarities between the coils in the picture and the cross sectional diagrams in the patent. I really like the big fat primary wires, no screwing around and such tidy windings too. I used to harp about winding cleanliness on this and other forums in the past. At any rate I thought the picture highly interesting.

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Hello Bill, Joe and all,

Having worked on this project a long time ago, you should know that through my work on the TPU, I think I have a way to make more power from this, using laser sabers setup! 

Do any of you guys have one built, to test with?

Cheers,

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