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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1117608 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2007, 02:41:25 AM »
Stefan:

Good suggestion on the solar lights.  They sell them here at a flea market very cheap. (Made in China and not very good)  Do I need the driver circuit to light the led?  Sorry to be so ignorant but, at least I admit to what I do not know... ha ha.  I have lit an led just by direct contact with some jumpers off the tubes in the soil.  Would the driver circuit help me and, if so, how?

Also, does anyone know of a good source for magnesium rods and carbon or graphite rods?  I am going to go whole hog and try the most difference in the glavanic scale.

I got 2.6 vdc just using a carpenter's pencil sharpened on both ends (graphite) and the magnesium fire starter block.  Neither one was planted deeper in the earth than 2.5 cms and about 30 cm apart. (Not optimal)  Oh, and as for amps on this trial: .05.  I was just playing around but now I want to get either plates, for more surface area, and/or the rod/tubes mentioned above and really sink them deeper.  I believe the power is there, we just need to grab it in an efficient manner.

Bill


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2007, 04:28:10 AM »
I just found an 8 foot copper pipe in the basement  ;D, just have to cut that to size and find  a grounding rod. I don't think the guy in the video said what the metal was but they must be pretty standard, if i can replicate what he did  with 1.8 amps.. Im just going to use the camera flash circuit to start with and see how quick it will step the current up.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2007, 04:33:55 AM »
Localjoe:

I think, and do not know, that grounding rods are galvanized and therefore zinc coated.  Wherever you purchase one, they should be able to tell you, I would hope.  So far, I have only milliamperes like Stefan said but, I am only in the ground very little with very little surface area.  That is about to change and I will post here the results.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2007, 04:47:39 AM »
Cool thanks for the info bill, i had a feeling they were zinc .. side note some guy in another thread took the time to delete all of his postings and then claim he was keeping the idea for himself after others had given input and it was not stated at the beginning. Its amazing how some people have it all figured out ... hell he could probably rob cars for a living and make it huge... ya know  :o  I told him that most times, servers have backups for several days and even weeks then laughed here for a minute when i thought about how there was a time years ago when people in cities left there homes and cars unlocked at night.  Too bad human nature has gone so downhill in some areas.


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2007, 04:59:55 AM »
Localjoe:

Yes, I have read all of that.  I also posted (in case you didn't see) that he had already "published" his idea and therefore could not receive or maintain a patent. (In my opinion)  a lot of people, including myself, have helped him, which is what this site is all about, or, supposed to be.  He will be back when his idea does not work, it is flawed.

I have, at times, thought I was also on the verge of a breakthrough.  I asked myself if I would publish my findings and a video here and elsewhere.  I hessitated only for a moment and decided that yes, I would like nothing better than to share any success with the people here who just might, not only be able to replicate it, but to possibly improve my resutls.  No money for me but, if I were in this for the money, I should just get a second job.

What I am trying to say is that I understand his thought process but, once people here provide input, and someone accepts this input, I think it is too late to decide to "keep it to yourself."

If we have a breakthrough on the earth batteries, I am pretty sure the prior patents have expired.  But, for me, this is not the point.  I would want to use it for myself, and my friends and, have the people here think of ways to improve it that we never even thought of.  Society wins.....that's enough for me.

Don't take my word for the galvanized grounding rod being zinc coated.....if I knew this to be true, I would say I knew....I think this is the case, but check it out.  Interesting results I got with a pencil using the graphite.  Big improvement in vdc.  If I can find a graphite rod about 1" in diameter and a magneisum rod of about the same dia and both about 4' long....I might have a good starting point.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2007, 06:10:12 AM »
@Mike:

Great info on the telluric currents...thanks.  Have you done any experiments on this yet?

@Stefan:

Rod measurements are in inches. (Sorry, you know us backward Americans) So, unless I miss my guess, 6" long rods are about 15.3 cm and 1/2 inch dia which should be about 1.27 cm. (I think)

I want to try this with longer rods on both ends and then, try a series connection or two.  I was going to try today to light a blue led but, I fried it when I soldered two wires onto the connections.  I didn't know they were that heat sensitive or I would have used a heat sink. 

Stefan, what kind/type/size capacitor could we used to store up this voltage?  I could get one at radio shack if I don't have one lying around here somewhere already.  I know they are measured in picofarrads (I think) but have no idea what size to try. I am going there anyway to get a selection of leds.

I think Stefan is right about the surface area/power relationship but I am not sure going deeper is the answer.  I am now thinking of buying some rod material (longer) and laying it down horizontally just below the surface, which is where this energy seems to be...at least in my part of the world.  I am very interested to know of others work in this area.  I will keep you posted on my efforts.

Bill
Hi Pirate88179,

Yes, the first thing I tried was to see if it?s pure galvanic effect or not, so I used the obvious. Two same metals. If it?s pure galvanic, then there should be no voltage potential across them.

Well, it measures about 29 milivolts and about 0.012 miliamps across a 2.2k resistance.
The 2 zinc coated nails are about 3/8? dia, 12? long driven in the ground about 2.5 feet apart to a same depth of about 10?. Those two were about N to S aligned. The ground was fairly wet though, due to recent showers. (according to some readings, dryer ground maybe better)
These nails are the common coated nails you can get for your local hardware store garden section or building materials section.
If you want more depth exposure, you may try some common galvanized pipe (eg water pipe ?? or solid electrical zinc coated conduit pipe) for the first rod and maybe some plain copper pipe for the second. and ofc the old mighty sledgehammer

Let us know if you also try same metals to see if you can get any V and A

I hope this helps.

BTW nice work, getting 2.6 V and 50 mA with your setup. It may not be much, but a number of them may make a nice night light arrangement for eg a flower garden at night.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2007, 04:55:50 PM by mikestocks2006 »

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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2007, 09:08:47 AM »
@ Mike:

I am glad to see others here experimenting.  I truly believe that no one on this planet at this time knows exactly what can be produced from this.  My soil is not anywhere near perfect. (I live in an apartment)  I don't have much room and, so far, I have only used items I can find around my house for the tests.  I am just amazed that I got ANY positive results and this makes me really wonder what might happen if I purchased materials and spent more time in experimentaion.  I really also wonder what others might find in their own areas of the world.  This site is obviously worldwide and who knows what might work here, but not in Europe, or, the other way around.

From what I have read in the patents, there are amps available here.  One of my friends said to me...."So what, even if you get 2 amps and 50 volts......so what?"  So what? It is free and in the earth and, what if a lot of people experiment with this and then who knows what might be realized.  He told his wife that if we have a blackout that Bill can run an led in his garden.  I say...today an led, tomorrow.....the whole house. (OK maybe need a few more weeks for that, ha ha)

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2007, 09:28:45 AM »
2.5 Volts is already very nice, but the magnesium will be consumed very fast, if you drive an LED or other load with it.
Try with two graphite rods. These are very inert and will not be consumed, so then you would only run it on telluric currents, but then the voltage will be only millivolts probably.
Be cautious not to hit ground high voltage lines..! Good luck.

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2007, 09:38:17 AM »
Stefan:

I would love to use graphite rods of any real size.  I have not found any locally.  Is there some place you know of to get these?  I have found several places on-line but I have to order 50 pieces min.  We need to get the amps up for this to be useful I think.  I am thinking surface area like you said earlier.  A lot of the early patents describe using plates, not rods or tubes.  Surface area may be the key to higher amps.  And yes, I was hoping I would not hit any burried power lines while trying this.  Great amps readings for a moment, then death.

Bill
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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2007, 09:47:11 AM »
Graphite rods are very hard to come by these days...
Try at your local welder shop... They are still used as electrodes for cutting steel.
You might also try a stainless steel metal mesh. these are also very inert and have a high surface area...

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2007, 06:48:06 PM »
Eds true value baby, 1.99 for the 4 pack of 12 inch ones, if you have lowes or true value try them like steffan said in the welding sections
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2007, 06:50:43 PM »
Excellent!  I will check that out.  Thanks.

Bill


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2007, 07:13:46 PM »
I was thinking you could use copper and galvanized wool.  I have seen some online stores that sell it in a fine mesh or wool form, and I think it would have a good surface area.  I'll see if stainless steel or graphite comes in these forms.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2007, 07:16:44 PM »
You know i thought about it for a second, this replication worked in an insulated pot with dirt and a plant.... showed same voltage .7-.9 vdc but with no current. Curent is present in normal earth tho in excess of 300 micro amperes for me so far and is getting bettter. So in english the current only shoes up in real earth ground not soil in insulated pot.  So it might be safe to say the current im getting is not from a galvanic reaction yet that reaction may me necessary on a small level to tap the magnetic field of the earth to then draw current?  And to support reports of electrodes not decaying or being used up i bet the magnetic feild protects them to an extent..

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2007, 07:38:20 PM »
Hi guys my firsy post here.

Ive been reading this thread with great interest and tried a little test of my own with a 30mm carbon rod and a small 30mm copper nail and managed 1.4VDC and 1.5VAC with a simple multimeter, so now im kind of hooked on improving these results and sharing any info as i believe this is the only way to progress.

Were do you suppose the energy is coming from, stored solar energy, energy stored from falling rain drops, magnetic field or maybe a combination ....?.

great forum by the way

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