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Author Topic: Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications  (Read 1084643 times)

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2007, 03:33:30 AM »
I have not read the patents yet, but I will do so.  I did see a video (from google earth battery search) that showed a guy with a coil device he said replicated the early experimenters and he only got about what I got from an empty beer can sitting on the ground to the copper pipe.

I don't know a lot about coils.  I am familiar with what they do and all, but I am not an electronics guy by any means.  Did it mention what was used for the cores in the coils? (I will read the patents)  What if we used the copper pipe on the north side and a capacitor, partially in the ground for the secondary metal?  We could take the voltage off of the outside of the cap and the pipe and route it into the cap for charging.  Maybe a combination of coils, caps...and who knows?  I was wondering if a resonance might be involved somehow for tuning for max voltage.  The diameter of the copper pipe, length, length in the ground, distance from screw, or other zince or metal.  Maybe the variables have to be "tuned" so a type of resonance takes place that matches the eath's resonance, or a fraction thereof, in some way.

I have not found much anywhere on the web about anyone really working on this in modern day. (Except for the video I mentioned)  what I mean is, I have not seen anywhere that a university or science foundation has fully explored this and determined it is not viable.  It appears the old guys were getting usable electricity from these things.  I wonder what happend?  Possibly 1 cent a kilowatt hour for electricity delivered to your house made further research not practicle at that time.

I also read that one guy, who also had patents, heated and illuminated his home using only this type of device.
Off to read some patents.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2007, 05:04:47 AM »
http://www.flicklife.com/185b45ae4752a1e7d544/Battery_Hack_The_Planet.html

This link is to a pretty good video.  He said he is getting 1.5 amps I believe.  I think his rods are too close together and he could get more with a little experimentation.  He uses it to run an LED in his bathroom...for free.  A step in the right direction.  Read most of the patents, a few more to go.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2007, 05:16:17 AM »
Bill if that dude is right we found out way more than him already and just havent realized it .  He stopped with the electrodes that close....  and we just need longer pieces of metal.......... Awesome find man that just solidified this is defiantly worth our while.

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2007, 06:15:20 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNoLfjIEac

Above link is another video that is a kind of replication of Stubblefield.  I am not impressed by the results shown here.  Just thought you might like to see it if you have not already.

The other video from my earlier post does not even mention if he aligned with the north/south meridian or not.  If not, probably more power there from just this change.  Also, I think he said one rod was a grounding rod...are these zinc coated?

The following is a list of metals and their potentials in the earth:

[edit] Metals and Soils
Potential Differences of metals
(Soil Galvanic series) 
Metal
... Potential
V Cu/CuSO4 electrode
Magnesium (pure) -1.75
Magnesium (alloy) -1.60
Zinc -1.10
Alluminum (alloy) -1.05
Aluminum (pure) -0.8
Steel (clean) -0.50 to -0.80
Steel (rusted) -0.20 to -0.50
Cast Iron -0.50
Lead -0.50
Steel (concrete) -0.20
Copper -0.20
Brass -0.20
Bronze -0.20
Steel (mill scale) -0.20
Cast iron (high silicon) -0.20
Carbon +0.30
Graphite +0.30
Coke +0.30
Notes:
Non-uniform conditions at node surface 


I am not sure, but I think the idea is to choose two that are as far apart on the scale as possible.  If I am calculating this correctly....I used a coper tube (-.20) and a zinc coated screw (-1.10) and this gives a difference of -.90 and I achieved .94.  If these numbers really correlate this way, then we can calculate, within reason, the potential of our metals.  I could be wrong about this.  I would like to try carbon or graphite (+.30) and zinc (-1.10) which should be a 1.4 potential.  This could get interesting.

Bill


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2007, 06:43:43 AM »
Ive got a few carbon rods left from an electrolysis exp i'll try that one tomorrow too if i have a chance

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2007, 07:39:22 AM »
http://www.flicklife.com/185b45ae4752a1e7d544/Battery_Hack_The_Planet.html

This link is to a pretty good video.  He said he is getting 1.5 amps I believe.  I think his rods are too close together and he could get more with a little experimentation.  He uses it to run an LED in his bathroom...for free.  A step in the right direction.  Read most of the patents, a few more to go.

Bill

Hmm, amazing !
1.8 Amperes !
How does he get so much current out of this cell ?
That is really amazing !

Have to try this soon myself.
Maybe the long rods are important ?

Would be interesting to see, if he would get the high
current also after a few days of usage..
Maybe he had just rammed the scratched blank surface
copper rod into the earth and so ithas a big surface in the soil.

Normally this only works as a galvanic cell
having around 0.8 to 1 Volts of voltage and
low milliamps current.
But1.8 Amps is really something, so this seems
to generate already around 1 Watts of power(probably the voltage
breaks down, if you short out the rods via the ampmeter...)

But surely you will consume both rods and spoil the earth with it,
so there will be dangerous copper salts and zinc salts
going into the soils, but I don?t know, how dnagerous they are...
Probably not the zinc salts,but probably the copper salts.
So don?t do this at a places where you draw water from a well  to drink.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: A graphite rod and a Magnesium rod would give
the biggest voltage, around 1.5 to 1.8 Volts,
but the Magnesium rod would be consumed very fast.
I wonder how long this copper-zinc cell will
last,if this guy always draws about 1 amp....
Probably not too long...
Also the oxidation on the surface will after some time
raise the impedance and lower the output current a lot !
But just try it...

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2007, 07:57:04 AM »
Stefan:

From what I have read in the patents (Listed on wiki from a google search on earth batteries)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery

even after a long time in operation there is no breakdown or errosion of the metals.  They can be placed very far apart from each other, some say, the farther the better, so I don't see how galvanic corrosion can occur.  But, I am no expert in this, I just discovered this a few days ago after reading Localjoe's topic here.  I have been reading ever since and done a few experiments as well.  The patents make interesting reading and they allude to some pretty decent power outputs.  I think this phenomena is related to Tesla's opinions of earth energy, etc.  I will try to get up some video after doing a few more experiments.  This is easy to replicate and I think that if everyone tries something a little different, there is no telling how much the power might be increased. Localjoe is talking about the use of coils, etc, like in some of the patents.

Stefan, thanks again for this site.  If not for it I would have never heard of this very interesting topic, as well as many others.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2007, 08:08:58 AM »
I agree theres not many places now days where you can still have an intelligent conversation with someone. Ok so yea I wasn't kidding about the 6 to 8 foot space between the electrodes,in keeping with that if that redox reaction can still take place through that much soil tell me,  I didn't think that was possible especially when its been dry. The common factor i"m seeing in these patents as well is the use of an inductor whether to electromagnets or and iron core to make a transformer off of they all have a flavor of it.  And does polar alignment affect a redox reaction if so we could lean towards that, if not id say another strike for this not being a galvanic reaction.

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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2007, 08:33:11 AM »
Hi Pirate and Localjoe,
if you ever get more than 50 milliamps shortcircuit DC current
out of your setup constantly for a few hours, please let me know.

If you want higher voltages you would need to put more cells in series, but this is problematic,
as if the earth gets wet all the cells will be just in parallel and not in series,
so you could try to insolate each cell from each other , so for instance put a big plastic foil around the
whole cell up to the top ground .
But then probably you will have a pure galvanic cell and no earth EM currents...
Hmm... if you also get AC on there this would also be interesting,
so try to take scope shots of the generated voltages.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2007, 08:47:35 AM »
Hmmm well i have no scope, and i think it would fry the computer program i have because of the voltage, the ac showes up on my analog meter but not my digital one so if that means anything to ya.  What im going to try is a transformer im making on a nail just for a test green radio shack 3 pack wire for the secondary like 100 turns and ive got some romex i striped and i think that it would make a nice primary which will connect to the earth electrodes copper and zinc 10 turns.  Now the leads of the green rat shack wire should probably be connected to a cap and a resistor ... so I can make some kinda oscillator. Thats another thing that i remember from many diff docs after the current is tapped you must draw from it at a certain intervals to obtain what they claimed sent raw em energy to the wires.  On a side note i plan to try a camera flash circuit with this to see how quickly it steps the voltage up and fills the cap more reports tomorrow.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2007, 12:15:31 AM »
I did some more experiments today....the results are as follows:


6" long x 1/2" dia copper pipe 2" in the ground on north end
3" long block of magnesium (Fire starter block, 1/2" wide) on south side, 18" apart

1.0 vdc and 2.1 vac (Localjoe, this was using my digital craftsman meter)

2 copper pipes (linked together with jumper) sized as listed above on north end about 10" apart
Magnesium block on south end, about 18" from second copper pipe.

1.51 vdc and 0.0 vac

I don't have a scope either but I would love to know the frequency of the vac.  Stefan, is there any other way to determine the freq.?  I doubt it is 60 cycles, who the hell knows what it might be.

I am looking for a carbon or graphite rod and will try more tomorrow.  I wonder if a golf club carbon fiber shaft would work?

I did not check amps yet (forgot) but will do so in different configurations.  More to come and some video, or at least pictures.

Bill
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2007, 07:22:34 PM »
Hi Bill, just a DC voltage will also register on the AC scale, so you dont know, if there is real AC.
Too bad you did not check the current, as this is the most important measurement.
The voltage comes from the galvanic action, but how much current could be drawn from it normally depends on the sizes of the metal surfaces. Normally you only have MilliAmps...
How long were your rods ? inches or foots ?
Please quote also in cm.
Many thanks.


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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2007, 07:53:44 PM »
Hi Bill, just a DC voltage will also register on the AC scale, so you dont know, if there is real AC.
Too bad you did not check the current, as this is the most important measurement.
The voltage comes from the galvanic action, but how much current could be drawn from it normally depends on the sizes of the metal surfaces. Normally you only have MilliAmps...
How long were your rods ? inches or foots ?
Please quote also in cm.
Many thanks.
Hi Stefan,
It's not clear if pure galvanic effect is the source of the voltage differential and current density capability.
This maybe of interest and would help clarify a possible reason for the observations, DC vs AC frequencies etc:

"Telluric currents flow in the surface layers of the earth. The electric potential on the Earth's surface can be measured at different points,...

The field varies in time and over the frequency range 0.001 to 5 Hz (Krasnogorskaja & Remizov, 1975). Electric potential gradients caused by telluric currents are of the order of 0.2 to 1000 volts per metre. (Krasnogorskaja and Remizov, 1975; Vanjan, 1975). At any location, the current density is a direct function of the interhemispheric currents and their potential gradients. It has been estimated that telluric currents overall during twelve hours in one hemisphere are in range of 100 to 1000 amperes"

These are some hefty numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current

The galvanic effect  can be a factor, acidity near roots, dissimilar metals etc, but how can a voltage be explained with same metals? Or as some experimenters indicate, when the rods are further apart, the numbers actually improve, higher soil dryness helps etc.
Some more here.
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/tearth.htm

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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2007, 07:22:38 AM »
@Mike:

Great info on the telluric currents...thanks.  Have you done any experiments on this yet?

@Stefan:

Rod measurements are in inches. (Sorry, you know us backward Americans) So, unless I miss my guess, 6" long rods are about 15.3 cm and 1/2 inch dia which should be about 1.27 cm. (I think)

I want to try this with longer rods on both ends and then, try a series connection or two.  I was going to try today to light a blue led but, I fried it when I soldered two wires onto the connections.  I didn't know they were that heat sensitive or I would have used a heat sink. 

Stefan, what kind/type/size capacitor could we used to store up this voltage?  I could get one at radio shack if I don't have one lying around here somewhere already.  I know they are measured in picofarrads (I think) but have no idea what size to try. I am going there anyway to get a selection of leds.

I think Stefan is right about the surface area/power relationship but I am not sure going deeper is the answer.  I am now thinking of buying some rod material (longer) and laying it down horizontally just below the surface, which is where this energy seems to be...at least in my part of the world.  I am very interested to know of others work in this area.  I will keep you posted on my efforts.

Bill

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Re: Earth battery expermients
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2007, 07:37:01 AM »
Get a big capacitor,
like 10000 uF and at least 35 Volts or so...
If you get higher voltages from telluric currents,
it depends on the voltage rating, but whenyou only
have galvanic effect you could
also just buy a 1 Farad 2.5 Volts Supercap.

The bigger the capacity the better you can draw higher currents from
it.
YOu could try to use a gardenway LED solarlamp to power the
LED in it.
Just throw out the solar cell and battery and you have a nice driver circuit
for the included LED in the lamp.
These lamps are very cheap today, normally you get 3 pieces for around 15 US$.

Good luck !
Regards, Stefan.

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