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Author Topic: How about a raw cookie ball wheel  (Read 4980 times)

AB Hammer

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How about a raw cookie ball wheel
« on: October 12, 2007, 05:08:16 AM »
Lets reverse all our ideas on the ball wheel, and look with fresh eyes.

Instead of reducing friction, lets add a bit to control the ball weights. Now what ideas can we come up with that will run a wheel? People trying to reduce friction havn't been able to make one work except Bessler, or did he change his ideas as well.

I am posting this for during my break from work I came up with just that idea, as well as blueprinted it last night. It will be fairly quiet for a ball type wheel and have full control on how it runs as well. Of course as all would say, if it works. But the math says it should on this one.

I welcome any thoughts on this subject, or if you like, pick my brain.

FreeEnergy

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Re: How about a raw cookie ball wheel
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 06:55:29 AM »
need a diagram or some kind of picture/video.

thanks :)

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Re: How about a raw cookie ball wheel
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 02:26:40 PM »
Well if I show the one I have drawn, I will have exposed my idea prematurely before protection. But the idea is kinda simple but will do better than what this pic off of orffyre.com does. It will put the ball at the top without all the turning gears, yet the balls never role truly free. So it seem that Bessler was trying to do the some what the same here using the friction to his favor, but mine is a bit more radical.

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Re: How about a raw cookie ball wheel
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 02:03:32 AM »
Well if I show the one I have drawn, I will have exposed my idea prematurely before protection. But the idea is kinda simple but will do better than what this pic off of orffyre.com does. It will put the ball at the top without all the turning gears, yet the balls never role truly free. So it seem that Bessler was trying to do the some what the same here using the friction to his favor, but mine is a bit more radical.

wtf? so this isn't open source? let me guess you want to protect your discovery with a patent? lol i hope not! if that's the case then you shouldn't even started this thread! jesus christ!

sorry but i am just tired of bull shit claims that aren't open source. this is an OPEN SOURCE forum!


PLEASE PEOPLE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN SOURCE A PROJECT PLEASE DO NOT EVEN MENTION IT! take it else where. thank you.

read this: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1821.0.html


peace :)

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Re: How about a raw cookie ball wheel
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 03:24:32 AM »
G'day AB Hammer and all,

Everything seems to go around in cirles.

May I make a suggestion. Instead of using balls, why don't you use water, it's a lot easier to shift. But then again we would be back to another medieval idea that didn't work like this one:

(http://www.keelytech.com/fludd1.jpg)
Robert Fludd, also known as Robertus de Fluctibus ( 1574 - 1637 )

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Re: How about a raw cookie ball wheel
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 04:45:18 AM »
FreeEnergy

I know what you are thinking but if you look at my other strings, you will see some open source.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3416.0.html

I have several patterns counting about 30+ that I am working on. Some I will keep back and some I will open source. How well they work depends on that. The main reason I started this string is to try to get people to think in less narrow terms. I am very serious about helping others and as a teacher of the art of blacksmith/armouring of over 20 years, I tend to try to make people think. If people don't think or they keep in narrow ways, they will never figure this out, and sometimes over complicating the problem. My goal is to prove Bessler correct from his drawings and to prove that it can be done in several ways as well. Out of my 30+ 14 of them pass all the math, even the triangle wheel that I have corrected the pattern and will be showing the model to be opened sourced.  I have found ways to resist centrifugal force and even a possibility of exceeding 120 rounds a minute. I have never failed solving a mechanical problem and my nab-or challenged me on this path, or I wouldn't have even tried, for I tend to be very busy. I have already beat the best engineers from Japan and America at a place called AP technoglass solving an application machine problem. The application of a foam strip for GM that kept falling off due to the applicator machine. They screwed me out of 1,250.00  and another engineer smugled out my prototype for me, before they sent it to Japan. I hang it on my wall as a reminder.

I am already working on another problem for one of the members GraViTaR  and others reading it, and I will be posting when I finish. Look at this string.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3432.30.html

So please don't be hard on me, for I like to show my hand but not at a high cost, even now I have invented a flywheel the will freewheel 5 times longer than a standard flywheel, and I do hope to make some money from that. By the way it increases toque as well. If I can make my retirement from that I will be happy to solve almost any bodies mechanical problem.



hansvonlieven

Thanks for the suggestion but the centrifugal force would run it dry and water doesn't track well.