Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler (Read 1480763 times)

amigo · « **Reply #585 on:** November 13, 2007, 02:24:42 AM »

hoptoad, thanks for your post.

I agree that we do not need to break any physical laws, or even bend them for that matter. Any physical law is based on someone's observations and/or empirical proof, supported by others agreeing to accept it - a consensus. No where does it say anything is set in stone, and I really shiver when some people (in our orthodox scientific community and academia) talk about things as if they are set in stone, because it only shows how narrow minded they can be.

Personally, I am trying to look at different technologies and findings from various fields of alternative research in hope that they could be combined into something greater than any of the components creating it. What bothers me is that many people are obsessed with this O/U goal that they are forgetting that there's no "free beer" or everything for nothing. I think Tom Bearden nicely said in of the videos that we only need to invest a small amount of energy and the Nature will give us back everything we can take, and more, but as long as we follow Nature's principles (of open loop and not breaking the diapoles).

That is why I said that we need to focus on the two goals and not one: tapping into RE sea of energy through some easy and least costly (energetically) method; and other of creating the devices (to replace our existing ones) that will be driven by that generated energy without converting it to some other form (closed loop wasteful energy for example).

I strongly believe that we already have the answer, and it is within us and around us. Our own bodies are an open loop system, part of an even larger open loop system. We need to explore the principles present within us and create a "primer", that very first method of tapping into the RE which everything will stem from, because it's all really one and the same thing on some other higher level beyond our perception (or comprehension at the moment).

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #586 on:** November 13, 2007, 02:54:37 AM »

Amigo:

Well put. I have always looked to nature for engineering suggestions. She is pretty good at it afterall. When I consider the human body, that you can eat an apple and work all day off of the energy from that apple....pretty efficient system there. And then consider that our waste fertilizes the apple tree afterwards.....perfect. Nature is our answer, we just have to look past the laws and our narrow minded thinking to see it.

Bill

hartiberlin · « **Reply #587 on:** November 14, 2007, 07:46:22 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 04, 2007, 09:32:08 PM

I justsaw,
that Dr.Stiffler has just published his new circuit diagram on his website
http://www.drstiffler.com/ce4.asp

Here it is:
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3457.0;attach=14106)

I just got an email with a few comments to this circuit and
the core:

For one the connection from R3 to R2 is wrong and should not be there.
Next Q1 is a oscillator driving M1 as an amplifier.
This is a typical RF transmitter circuit.
The output from M1 is where you would put an antenna. In this case the antenna is a wire running to a coil. L1 and L3 are what is known as a antenna tuner or matching circuit. As most hams know when the antenna length or is tuned to the wright frequencies the alternating current or voltage will flow back and forth in tune with driver. That is why one wire works here.
Next L2 picks up the voltage from the antenna and amplifies it some due to the transformer action. This becomes like the receiving antenna.
Next D1 and D2 make a voltage doubler charging the capacitor Cp to twice the input voltage.
Next the 555 timer just turns the load on and off.
The D1 and D2 and capacitor make what is known as a charge pump. The size of the capacitor determines the amperage. The larger the capacitor is the longer it takes to build up full charge but the discharge is determined by the size of the capacitor and load.
Besides using one wire output and input this is exactly the same way a 1.5 volt battery in a flash camera makes the 3000 volts to flash the bulb.

Dr. Stiffler states that the iron core on the coils had Barium in it. I have been in electronics since I was 13 years old and have never heard of Barium being used in a ferrite bar. So I did some research for different core manufactures and none I found had Barimum. My cores are made with Iron particales with a zinc magnesium base. Some cores use copper, nickel and Aluminum as doping compounds. As Copper and Aluminum are para magnetic and will increase the frequency response on the core.
Next although this most likely was not from Stiffer but a neon bulb will give off light due to the ionization on the neon at high frequencies. Only a few volts at high frequencies will light the bulb. I used to test some car CB's buy touching on lead from a neon bulb to the antenna. The volage at the antenna was no where near 90 volts.
But at least post that the connection on Q1 R3 to R2 is wrong. Next C7 may be best suited to a variable capacitor to fine tune the antenna output.
Maybe my dual 266pf can be connected to operate 10- 532pf. For driving neon bulbs capacitor Cp may not be needed or a very low value. You can put a load resistor across Cp say 10k or so and adjust the variable capacitor for max voltage with the 555 timer not in operation.

DrStiffler · « **Reply #588 on:** November 14, 2007, 08:20:22 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 14, 2007, 07:46:22 PM

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 04, 2007, 09:32:08 PM
I justsaw,
that Dr.Stiffler has just published his new circuit diagram on his website
http://www.drstiffler.com/ce4.asp

Here it is:
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3457.0;attach=14106)

I just got an email with a few comments to this circuit and
the core:

For one the connection from R3 to R2 is wrong and should not be there.
Next Q1 is a oscillator driving M1 as an amplifier.
This is a typical RF transmitter circuit.
The output from M1 is where you would put an antenna. In this case the antenna is a wire running to a coil. L1 and L3 are what is known as a antenna tuner or matching circuit. As most hams know when the antenna length or is tuned to the wright frequencies the alternating current or voltage will flow back and forth in tune with driver. That is why one wire works here.
Next L2 picks up the voltage from the antenna and amplifies it some due to the transformer action. This becomes like the receiving antenna.
Next D1 and D2 make a voltage doubler charging the capacitor Cp to twice the input voltage.
Next the 555 timer just turns the load on and off.
The D1 and D2 and capacitor make what is known as a charge pump. The size of the capacitor determines the amperage. The larger the capacitor is the longer it takes to build up full charge but the discharge is determined by the size of the capacitor and load.
Besides using one wire output and input this is exactly the same way a 1.5 volt battery in a flash camera makes the 3000 volts to flash the bulb.

Dr. Stiffler states that the iron core on the coils had Barium in it. I have been in electronics since I was 13 years old and have never heard of Barium being used in a ferrite bar. So I did some research for different core manufactures and none I found had Barimum. My cores are made with Iron particales with a zinc magnesium base. Some cores use copper, nickel and Aluminum as doping compounds. As Copper and Aluminum are para magnetic and will increase the frequency response on the core.
Next although this most likely was not from Stiffer but a neon bulb will give off light due to the ionization on the neon at high frequencies. Only a few volts at high frequencies will light the bulb. I used to test some car CB's buy touching on lead from a neon bulb to the antenna. The volage at the antenna was no where near 90 volts.
But at least post that the connection on Q1 R3 to R2 is wrong. Next C7 may be best suited to a variable capacitor to fine tune the antenna output.
Maybe my dual 266pf can be connected to operate 10- 532pf. For driving neon bulbs capacitor Cp may not be needed or a very low value. You can put a load resistor across Cp say 10k or so and adjust the variable capacitor for max voltage with the 555 timer not in operation.

This is a good indication on why we are limiting the distribution of our circuits. You must have pulled this one from your you computer because it has been corrected for over a week now. Good indication of why we are enforcing the Copyrights, of which you seem to have violated?

>>This is a typical RF transmitter circuit.
You are so wrong!

>>Besides using one wire output and input this is exactly the same way a 1.5 volt battery in a flash camera makes the 3000 volts to flash the bulb.
So far off I will not even comment.

>>Dr. Stiffler states that the iron core on the coils had Barium in it. I have been in electronics since I was 13 years old and have never heard of Barium being used in a ferrite bar. So I did some research for different core manufactures and none I found had Barimum. My cores are made with Iron particales with a zinc magnesium base. Some cores use copper, nickel and Aluminum as doping compounds. As Copper and Aluminum are para magnetic and will increase the frequency response on the core.

Still some funny people out there.!!!

I logged in today to announce something very important, but now seeing this it can wait a bit. I guess we need to stimulate traffic a bit by posting this kind of crap.

canam101 · « **Reply #589 on:** November 14, 2007, 08:47:41 PM »

Quote from: RStiffler on November 14, 2007, 08:20:22 PM

I logged in today to announce something very important, but now seeing this it can wait a bit.

This is getting hilarious - a sort of intellectual strip tease. If you take so much umbrage at normal skepticism, you will run out of places to announce anything.

Instead of getting so ticked off when somebody dares to suggest that they don't believe 110 percent in whatever it is you think you have, ignore them and make the big announcement.

If you really have anything, it will shut up the skeptics quickly enough. But the more coy you continue to be, and the more the experimenters are unable to come up with OU, the more people will think you have nothing.

AhuraMazda · « **Reply #590 on:** November 14, 2007, 09:07:59 PM »

On the topic of Barium ferrite, search for "BaFe".
Pehaps start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium_ferrite.

AM

hartiberlin · « **Reply #591 on:** November 14, 2007, 10:35:01 PM »

Hi Ron,
this was a forwarded email from the person you bought the AM coils
from....
So he checked his cores and said, that they might not contain any Barium.

I am in this moment not at home, so I can?t check until the weekend, if my
cores have already arrived...

DrZLowe7 · « **Reply #592 on:** November 14, 2007, 11:42:22 PM »

Mr Stiffler
I wanted to stay anomalous in this and just wanted the error on the schematic posted.
But since you used the word "crap" I must reply.
The oscillator built around Q1 is very typical and is most common in micro watt FM transmitters.
1) Is not Q1 an oscillator? Do not transmitters use oscillator's?
2) Does M1 not buffer and amplify the output from Q1. Because it is biased off it still switches on and off at the input frequency? Sounds like a buffer amplifier.
3) Does the output from M1 not drive the coils L1 and L2 . Sounds like an antenna to me.
4) Does not L2 receve the output from L3. Sounds like another antenna to me.
5) Does not D1 and D2 and Cp make a voltage doubler?
6) Does not the 555 do nothing but turn the load off and on?
7) Because the load being pulsed at a 50% duty cycle do you divide the output wattage by 2?

For any one that wants to try. Using the above schematic with R2 and R3 not connected together connect the end of L3 directly to ground because it has a capacitor at M1 output it will not hurt anything. Next connect a capacitor about .01uf or .001uf from ground to the end of L2. This will improve performance

I have not made this circuit but I know my stuff. If you have a working protype try the modifications and let me know the results.
My rods contain no Barium according the manufacturer it has Ferrite with Zinc Magnesium binder. I never said their was no such thing as Barium-Ferrite. But that it is not used cores or torids used for RF cores.
Buy the way if Stiffler denies any of questions above I will try and prove it anyone interested.

Any circuit no matter how complicated it my look can be broken down into its individual functions buy doing this you can discern how it works.

HopeForHumanity · « **Reply #593 on:** November 15, 2007, 01:28:21 AM »

"Dr. Stiffler states that the iron core on the coils had Barium in it. I have been in electronics since I was 13 years old and have never heard of Barium being used in a ferrite bar."

If you didn't mean what I think you did in the above statement, then why did you waste your time stating that you were ignorant of barium ferrite bars? Seems kinda stupid... lol

DrZLowe7 · « **Reply #594 on:** November 15, 2007, 01:45:32 AM »

Just some more thoughts from my last posting.
3000 volts was quite high maybe 300 volts for xenon bulb.

You also may want to try this the 1.1uh coils in the collectors of Q1 and M1 change to one of my 680uh coils or 470uh coils. Replace C2 with a 100pf capacitor you may leave C1 in or take it out next replace R3 with 1K. Replace C7 with .01uf . Remember to use the schematic posted a few postings ago as there are so many around with numbers for the coils and componets differences.

Also use the modifications sudjested in my last posting. But change the .001uf capacitor from the end of L2 .01uf.

1.1uh coils will most likely produce around 20MHz since free air coils of in that range have self resonate frequency around 40MHz. 1.5MHz to 3MHz or so should work just fine.

DrZLowe7 · « **Reply #595 on:** November 15, 2007, 01:55:12 AM »

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on November 15, 2007, 01:28:21 AM

"Dr. Stiffler states that the iron core on the coils had Barium in it. I have been in electronics since I was 13 years old and have never heard of Barium being used in a ferrite bar."

If you didn't mean what I think you did in the above statement, then why did you waste your time stating that you were ignorant of barium ferrite bars? Seems kinda stupid... lol

I said plainly in my last post Barium-Ferrite is not used in tuning coil cores. Since that is what our discussion is about not all the different kinds magnetic materials. If the statement I made was from ignorance prove me wrong. Then I won't be ignorant any more.

DrZLowe7 · « **Reply #596 on:** November 15, 2007, 02:13:58 AM »

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on November 15, 2007, 01:28:21 AM

"Dr. Stiffler states that the iron core on the coils had Barium in it. I have been in electronics since I was 13 years old and have never heard of Barium being used in a ferrite bar."

If you didn't mean what I think you did in the above statement, then why did you waste your time stating that you were ignorant of barium ferrite bars? Seems kinda stupid... lol

Now I know how politician's feel every taken taken out of context. Ignorance is a lack of knowing something. Stupid is something else. I did not see you explain the circuit. Was this because you were ignorant of its operation. I do not call anyone "STUPID" even those that do not know how this simple circuit works.

HopeForHumanity · « **Reply #597 on:** November 15, 2007, 02:40:31 AM »

Now your stating that nothing you said is of relevance to what you mean or something... Good job, you confused me... I thought we were talking about how you never heard of barium ferrite bars (or cores). Did I miss something?

By the way, I wasn't matching ignorance and stupid, I was saying it's stupid to STATE how your ignorant of something....

Like you said, you didn't know about barium ferrite bars, so your ignorant of it... Now, instead of stating how you were ignorant about something, why didn't you just go research a tad before your post? it's a question... You never said that people told you it didn't exist, you just said you never heard of it. This led me to believe there might be more to why you never knew, so I asked a question.

DrZLowe7 · « **Reply #598 on:** November 15, 2007, 03:18:20 AM »

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on November 15, 2007, 02:40:31 AM

Now your stating that nothing you said is of relevance to what you mean or something... Good job, you confused me... I thought we were talking about how you never heard of barium ferrite bars (or cores). Did I miss something?

By the way, I wasn't matching ignorance and stupid, I was saying it's stupid to STATE how your ignorant of something....

Like you said, you didn't know about barium ferrite bars, so your ignorant of it... Now, instead of stating how you were ignorant about something, why didn't you just go research a tad before your post? it's a question... You never said that people told you it didn't exist, you just said you never heard of it. This led me to believe there might be more to why you never knew, so I asked a question.

Why is it you only quoted the first sentence the last part says I did research and found none. Read this I state it twice "I DID REASEAECH AND FOUND NONE" maybe if I say it enough it will soak in. Buy the way 99% of the time if I have not heard of something I been doing for 45 years, it because it does not exist. You are about forcing me to use "STUPID" word.

And by the way read this direct quote from original post" So I did some research for different core manufactures and none I found had Barimum" read quoted part several several more times do you see the words "I did research" Do not ask me again why I did not research when I did. Read this again "I DID REASEAECH AND FOUND NONE" . Enough on this. You confuse to easy.

amigo · « **Reply #599 on:** November 15, 2007, 04:04:00 AM »

Can't we all just get along?

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