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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 1470486 times)

Joh70

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #390 on: November 01, 2007, 12:21:09 PM »
as long as a power supply or external powered signal generator is connected, i beleave nothing.

emitremmah

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #391 on: November 01, 2007, 02:09:02 PM »
I am but a simpleton. I am still at a loss when I see one lead of a LED connected and it lights. I have laways been instructed that a circuit must come from somewhere and go somewhere. It doesn't. It is being lit by back EMF caused by the signal generator/oscilator because it seems to me that if you have a sine wave that the top is positive and the bottom negative then you are actually reversing the flow of electrons when you cross the base line. so what you are doing is then just exciting the electrons and that is enough?

Lost in the space between my ears.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #392 on: November 01, 2007, 02:10:56 PM »
Ops... :o
3. How for the wires which transports the current in the Avramenko experiment, the L2 thickness is extremely thin and is theoretically not sufficient for the current necessary to power 50 LEDs (50 * 20 mA = 1 A).
Is true... Clear this point...
But a little problem, why the LED or coil not burn ?
@Stiffler
Some time are the LED or Coil burned ?

samedsoft

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #393 on: November 01, 2007, 02:17:50 PM »
@All

   I am trying to understand and analyse the principle behind Dr. Stiffler's circuit in depth;

   Please think about the correlation between them,

   http://www.nuenergy.org/experiments/modern_radiant_energy_circuit.htm
   http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Radiant_Energy_Antenna_System
   http://www.byronnewenergy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ambient_Energy_Collection_Device
   http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Ambient_Energy_Collection_Device

   Dr. Stiffler has a lot of know how on this, und as I can understand he wants to go step by step and speak same language in the end. So it is very important to understand and analyze his previous videos and circuits.



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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #394 on: November 01, 2007, 02:35:22 PM »
Hi All,

Well the troops are stirred up for sure.  Lets clear up a few things.  First, go to his site and read the whole article on his series of experiments and a lot of things will be pretty clear.  I believe Dr. Stiffler has a few theories that he is developing to explain how these devices work......time will tell.

The LED's are in series.  Current in my device is more in the 3-4 Ma. area.  I will know more when I get the correct coils.  Using his coil, I don't know what current he can force out of the packets of energy pumped through the 1N914's or equivalent.  Total voltage drop across the string times the current is the power developed in the string. 

This is probably the best series of experiments using extremely high impedance and  possibly longitudinal waves in the RF region that I have ever seen!  Its all about matching impedances and something strange in the Barium Ferrite coil/coil configuration.  Theoretically, it gets complicated fast, way above me!

I want to thank the gentleman in Turkey for the heads up info on the LTC1799.  Sure wished they made it in standard configuration.  Does anyone make a small board/Osc. using this device out there as this should be a perfect driver for this device?  A resistor, a chip and a switch, how much more simple can it get and VERY low power too!!!!!  As is, you are going to need a magnifying glass to build this thing, my old eyes and shaky hands might be able to do it!  This should drive directly off a rectified output of a Stiffler device and with good decoupling, feed back and hence self run?  Hope so, sure would be fun to see it in my lifetime.

Anyway, lots of work to do.  BS is cheep, building and making it work is where the rubber meets the road.

Ben K4ZEP

k4zep

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #395 on: November 01, 2007, 02:52:21 PM »
Hi All,

Just one more thing.  WHAT IF IT IS POWERED BY RF or whatever portion of the bands of energy that are all around us and it is tuned to(Sea of energy!)?

 If It can "suck" or produce X amounts of energy out of the background RF/AF/LF noise around me, who cares..........................It has to suck something from somewhere and/or produce it via excitation of the core in the coil.  I'm more of a results type person.

Ben K4ZEP

Joh70

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #396 on: November 01, 2007, 03:19:51 PM »
if it sucks energy from RF the MIBs come to your house an switch of the magic lights very soon. They can measure it without coming in your house (when above hundreds of Watts or so - living such nearby makes people sick). Less RF-power decelerates signal strength of the station resulting in poorer radio quality. But maybe it is not RF!? Stiffler always states that. So then what is it? I cannot see what prevents it consuming power somehow from the supply or signalgenerator-supply!!! I think its possible, that a stimulated core can produce energy. In this case: Until it is not running completely disconnected by its own, i beleave nothing - but hope the best.

samedsoft

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #397 on: November 01, 2007, 03:30:03 PM »
But maybe is not RF!? Stiffler always states that.

    1. We all might know the Stanley Meyer, Bob Boyce and Newman circuits, Meyer and Boyce directed HV kicks to electrolyzer cell, they have utilized thoze anomalous kicks as highly efficient electrolysis,

    2. Where as Newman and Bedini used those kicks as magnetic explosions to utilize as mechanical movements.

      3. I beleive Dr. Stiffler is now utilizing HV peaks or kicks as BACK EMF to the primary side back. I call it hydraulic bauncing effect during electromagnetic explosion and implosion processes. I beleive this is the SECRET of Herr Dr. Stiffler.

      This effect can be further increased via playing with the core design. That's why I have asked Dr Stiffler to remove BaFe core just once. But he did not, inner and outer coupling of the core may be enormously important.

      So if BaFe has the coupling affect, then we need to put spare BaFe cores around ? Am I correct Dr. Stiffler?

     Best Regards from Turkey!
« Last Edit: November 01, 2007, 03:54:28 PM by samedsoft »

tinu

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #398 on: November 01, 2007, 03:48:44 PM »
if it sucks energy from RF the MIBs come to your house an switch of the magic lights very soon. They can measure it without coming in your house (when above hundreds of Watts or so - living such nearby makes people sick). Less RF-power decelerates signal strength of the station resulting in poorer radio quality. But maybe it is not RF!? Stiffler always states that. So then what is it? I cannot see what prevents it consuming power somehow from the supply or signalgenerator-supply!!! I think its possible, that a stimulated core can produce energy. In this case: Until it is not running completely disconnected by its own, i beleave nothing - but hope the best.

Believe nothing if you like but it?s more then nothing there. It?s something and it is surely exciting.
I felt posting the above in exchange because I was also among the firsts questioning about the RF issue. (hmm, detractors?)

However, until now despite the almost unbelievable visual impact, one has to remember that the overall power is maybe at 0.8-1W. This is a fact, which is clearly achievable using one wire, conventional electric theory. Nonetheless, the work is still in progress. So any verdict would be just a bad guess. And probably like many others here, I am quietly watching the advancement, and also still waiting to see some solid proof about longitudinal waves (which imho do not exist) and of course about OU/FE. This would be science. Good science. And I?ll take my hat off in front of you Dr. Stiffler if you can keep the good road on. But it seems we are now in a dead end and I don?t entirely understand Dr. Stiffler at this point. Almost everything is on the table to show at least an estimate of power balance: dc in, light out (and some loses, of course) and to go solid. But subjects are taken personally and questions are taken as insults. Why?

Anyway: user hartiberlin, you have disturbed this thread. Please ban yourself for at least a weak! Lol
(This is just to make a point about banning. By the way, how is Humbugger?)

Last, but not least: Ben, I remember you are an excellent experimentalist. Glad you are here! Hope the old story about Mike/Bedini is over and some serious subjects may now be brought around the table.

Tinu

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #399 on: November 01, 2007, 04:05:18 PM »
@abassign
I will repeat it with a very thin wire as you requested and you're right I think my experiment is very indeed like Avramenko. I also tried Dr Stiffler experiment and it worked somehow. I could light a few leds and I also got the high voltage with the neon light, BUT, my setup works better so far (still testing different things).

Fausto.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #400 on: November 01, 2007, 04:44:09 PM »

one has to remember that the overall power is maybe at 0.8-1W. This is a fact, which is clearly achievable using one wire, conventional electric theory.

     Congrats, you have a crystal (light emitting) diode radio for a shortwave station in Mexico.
     Run it in a Faraday cage with no external wires and report back to me. ;-)


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #401 on: November 01, 2007, 05:06:38 PM »
@All

Let me post some worst case figures for you to look over. My single coil, driven by a Colpitts Oscillator drawing 5mA into an impedance converter drawing 20mA from 12 volts.

12 x 2.5E-2 = 0.300 or 300 mW input.

Driving 75 LEDS in series with a forward drop each of 3.2 -3.8 volts with 4mA in the series chain. Lets use the low forward drop;

75 x 3.2 = 240 volts therefore 240 x 4E-3 = 0.960 or 960 mW

Do you all understand? and this is worst case.

abassign

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #402 on: November 01, 2007, 05:19:32 PM »
@plengo  (Fausto... is more simpatic)

Thanks for doing the test with the thin wire, but how much was thin ?
I have verified your scheme, you really have a set of LEDs fed in parallel, so the current should not be little. When you use a thin wire, can you measure the current with the oscilloscope ?
Is it possible do you tries with longer wire, at least 2/3 mt. and you do again the test.

Best regards,
Adriano

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #403 on: November 01, 2007, 05:29:25 PM »
@samedsoft

Friend! I enjoy the acronym. How is the family doing.

AhuraMazda

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #404 on: November 01, 2007, 05:34:11 PM »
Ron
With 28 posts you have made it to Elite member. I think Stefan is sorry!