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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 990464 times)

Offline fleubis

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2007, 05:21:45 AM »
I'm a bit confused about the use of Barium in  this device. Please  correct  me if  I'm wrong, but the only Barium I see in this device is in the ferrite tuning beads.  Right? The old radio antennas contain no Barium, or do they? Am now  trying to source that very thin multi-conductor wire used in the coils....not so  easy to find. Will  post a source when I find one.

Would like to remind everyone of Dr. Stiffler's clear disclaimer about his environment NOT being setup with proper shielding and grounding, and the presence of a nearby radio transmitter might easily explain everything.

James 

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2007, 05:58:17 PM »
The way I see it, the key to the powering of the bulb IS the signal generator.  The energy of several (or many, depending) low power pulses from the signal generator get stored and then released as one relatively large pulse to blink the LED or lamp.


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2007, 06:16:34 PM »
I think people are confusing and assuming things that are not claimed by Dr. Stiffler. Part of the problem is, from the time we watch the video to the time we type, we modify what may be claimed.

Best to watch the video again and see what is claimed. Look at the scope shots and look at things like frequency and voltage and then replicate it and see how it works for you.

The part of this last video that confused me is that he did not use the 90 degree opposed secondary coil, instead used three coils on the ferrite.

Another thing that may be confusing is that he called the video CE4 (Cold electricity 4) but in a previous video he said that the key to creating cold electricity was the counter opposed coil on a barium ferrite core.

I am sure that with time and patience all these issues will be resolved. I am looking for a barium ferrite cores and the closest thing I can find is barium ferrite magnets.

Mostly what the video showed me is the use of the plug at the end of the circuit which he clearly cites to the inventor. It is all good.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2007, 06:43:46 PM »
Here is something else I found interesting relative to an experiment he (Stiffler) did on his web site regarding electrolysis using just the input from a single LED powered by a cold electric barium ferrite core setup.

It appears that barium resonates at almost exactly ten times the resonate frequency of hydrogen (H1)

Mr. Stiffler talked about not being interested in recreating the Meyer process and instead developed the CREC - Charge recycle circuit which does work as advertised. Then while doing that experiment where a tiny bit of light was cracking water, he asked the question (paraphrasing) "Is this related to the Meyer process"

I about jumped out of my chair when I noticed that the two elements had such a close match.

Source of information was Texas Nuclear Magnetic Resonance something or another - Sorry, I lost the URL.

Note: Resonance frequencies are quoted relative to a resonance
frequency of exactly 100 MHz for 1H.

Isotope: 1H

Spin:                         1/2
Natural abunance:             99.985%
Magnetogyric ratio (rad/T s): 26.7520 x 10^7
Relative receptivity:         1.00
Magnetic moment               4.83724
Quadrupole moment Q/m(2)      0
Resonance frequency           100,200 and 300 MHz

Isotope: 135Ba

Spin:                         3/2
Natural abunance:             6.59 %
Magnetogyric ratio (rad/T s): 2.671 x 10^7
Relative receptivity:         3.28 x 10^-4
Magnetic moment               1.080
Quadrupole moment Q/m(2)      0.18
Resonance frequency           9.984 MHz

This indicates, if I understand correctly, that barium resonates at 998.4 MHZ and hydrogen at 100MHZ
Almost a perfect harmonic.

I know this much for sure, Meyers "State Space Change" could have been referring to the state change of a field effect transistor and perhaps a barium vessel surrounding the anode may have something to do with that patent and I am damn sure going to be playing with it soon!


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2007, 07:17:42 PM »
I'm a bit confused about the use of Barium in  this device. Please  correct  me if  I'm wrong, but the only Barium I see in this device is in the ferrite tuning beads.  Right? The old radio antennas contain no Barium, or do they? Am now  trying to source that very thin multi-conductor wire used in the coils....not so  easy to find. Will  post a source when I find one.

Would like to remind everyone of Dr. Stiffler's clear disclaimer about his environment NOT being setup with proper shielding and grounding, and the presence of a nearby radio transmitter might easily explain everything.

James 

Thin multi-strand  wire is called litz wire and it can be found on the web.

Ferrite tuning beads? No those are ferrite beads for decoupling and are easy to find but they do not do tuning. If anything, they DE-tune.

The antenna core looks like the same cores used in earlier videos and he stated that they were barium cores from an AM radio probably produced in China. I remember the little AM raidios from 20-30 years ago did have a core like that in them.

Hope that helps

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2007, 07:17:42 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2007, 08:08:39 PM »
where is the schematic? the working schematic? why has it not been posted, why do i go in circles looking for it??? why talk about the parts used and how it is possibly constructed? why not just post the schematic so we can test it????

what is the guy claiming? if it is overunity or power from electronic waves in the air, or a resonance inside a LC, whatever it maybe why has he not came into this overunity forum of the world and laid the schematic down like i did?

post after post and still talk, what are you all doing, trying to figure out how he has it working? i don't understand where this thread is going, someone please explain.

the peskwikia sites his videos on youtube direct you to goto, why is there no schematic there? it directs you here, and still no schematic, i no theres one a few pages back on this thread, the inductors are not listed in detail etc,,,, no point wasting time if you dont know how to assemble it.

can someone explain what is going on here??? 

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2007, 08:35:49 PM »
@ Spewing

Why don't you start at the beginning of the thread and start reading. Than at about page two you will see the schematic. You might just run into some links to video and his web site along the way too.

To just jump to the end and demand everyone fill you in on what you are too lazy to read is insulting and makes you look like a child.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2007, 08:35:49 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2007, 08:41:21 PM »
@ Spewing

Why don't you start at the beginning of the thread and start reading. Than at about page two you will see the schematic. You might just run into some links to video and his web site along the way too.

To just jump to the end and demand everyone fill you in on what you are too lazy to read is insulting and makes you look like a child.

Lazy??? i have read the threads, i have went to his website wich has no schematic, only stuff to by, and i have also watched his videos, i don't see anything other than "a video".

i also tried to registor over there at his site but for some reasone you cant, dont work.

i would have not posted, but i am agravated that i have watched the videos read the thread and whent to his site, still i have found nothing, where is the meet and potato's ????

thats all i was asking...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2007, 08:50:40 PM »
"Lazy??? i have read the threads, i have went to his website wich has no schematic, only stuff to by, and i have also watched his videos, i don't see anything other than "a video

i also tried to registor over there at his site but for some reasone you cant, dont work.

i would have not posted, but i am agravated that i have watched the videos read the thread and whent to his site, still i have found nothing, where is the meet and potato's ????

thats all i was asking... "


1. If you had read the thread, you would have seen the schematic on page 2.
2. If you had watched the videos, you would have know what is claimed.
3. If you had gone to the web site, registered, waited to be approved and then logged in you would have know anything else that is known.

I used the term lazy to be kind. Don't make me get all medieval on you ass. :-)

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2007, 08:57:08 PM »
well, a few post up if you would have read, you would see that i did know there was a schematic on page 2, his website said it was not allowing anyone to registor, so i assume that is fixed now?

"Maybe the other HALF of the circuit is on his website", And yes i know what he is claiming, but cold energy and Overunity is 2 different things, i guess he is getting overunity with cold energy with a resonating frequency fast charging a capacitor. just wanted to confirm, no need to go hostile

Thank you...

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2007, 08:57:08 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2007, 09:28:41 PM »
G'day all,

Periodic table, resonant frequencies:

http://www.eclipse.net/~numare/nsinmrpt.htm

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2007, 09:47:02 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2007, 12:04:53 AM »
The schematic is here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3457.msg54343.html#msg54343

Read the whole thread without hectic... ;)

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2007, 01:27:08 AM »
@ mramos

I assume by the note at the end you saw that relative to 1H part?

I don't know if this has anything to do with OU or Meyer or anything at all but I thought that is was interesting and perhaps someone can beat me to answering the question.

Is the water itself triggering the state change of a transistor?
I.e., was the movable probe in the Meyer notes a transistor on a stick with the gate exposed to the water?
Was the chamber itself surrounded by a barium ferrite core?

In the photos of the final Meyer water car, there is a large space between between the water cavity and the outside device. I have been puzzled by what occupied that space.


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2007, 02:01:37 AM »
Dr. Stiffler updated his page again.

Here are the new parts:

Circuit Comments

B1,B2,B2 & B4 with C1 form a delay line.

Removal of C1 will stop circuit operation and extinguish the LED.
Replacing C1 with a wire will reduce the LED output to barely visible or extinguished.
Removal of B1,B2,B2 & B4 and C1 and replacing with a short wire will extinguish the LED.

Pay special attention to the supplied scope pictures of this circuit in operation and not that the Peak-to-Peak voltage present at the junction (+rail) of B2 and L2 is ~8 (Scope{4}) volts. This voltage should always be higher than the input when the circuit is properly tuned into operational mode.

Tuning for maximum power at the LED is subjective if you use human visual reference for the amount of LED light output. This can get you close, but is not the most accurate way to find the three peaks available. I use a Lutron light meter and a black isolation tube around the LED. The circuit can be tuned for maximum light output, although this can also be in error due to the way LED's react to excitation at different frequencies, yet this can be an acceptable preliminary observation.

The most accurate I have found so far is using a small form factor (small size and mass) DVM (accuracy not important) with leads as short as possible connected across a 10k ohm resistor, bridged with a 5uf capacitor at the output of the rectifiers. With this configuration one can tune input for maximum voltage indication. The down side to this method is that the added L and C of the meter and connections do indeed shift the optimal peaks.

During tuning using both of the methods indicated above, the peaks (excluding LED frequency response) fall with in ~+/- 200khz of each other.

The peak frequencies have been derived by scope and counter measurement, with the most accurate being the frequency counter. This circuit appears to 'Hunt' and therefore even the counter cannot be considered totally accurate, as the readings will vary over many kilohertz as the circuit 'Hunts' for stability.

The following chart shows the frequency versus relative power from a test run on Circuit (4), using the DVM method of measurement and reading the frequency with a counter with 0.001% accuracy.

The following table shows the measured frequency peaks and their first three harmonics.

Measured (MHz)        3.9866     10.4230        12.3340
X2                        7.9732      20.8460     24.6680
X3                        11.9598    31.2690    37.0020
X4                        15.9464    41.6920    49.3360


It is noted at this point that in the scope traces (for #4) included below show scope-measured frequencies of 6.99MHz, 7.14MHz and 10MHz. The trace was not expanded as it should have been to obtain a more accurate reading, yet there can be seen a correlation with the counter readings.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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