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Author Topic: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler  (Read 990462 times)

Offline Super

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2007, 04:40:53 PM »
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*The statements that this circuit may be a manifestation of Cold Electricity may be in error. Continued testing of the circuit has not detected particular artifacts that should be observed in a 'Cold Electricity' circuit.

hmm, did he revoked his claims about CE ?

Ok, seems that all needed parts can be found in a common cheap radio,
wondering because it is nothing else than a Avramenko setup?!?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2007, 05:15:11 PM »
Dr.Stiffler just updated his page with added parts list:

R1     1 ohm 1% 1/4W Carbon Composition     
R2    10K ohm 1/4W Carbon Film    
R3    50 ohm 1/4W Carbon Film    
      
   
C2    10pf 500V +/-5% Dipped Silver Mica    
      
D1    1N4148 100VRRM 0.5A (Switching)    
D2    1N4148 100VRRM 0.5A (Switching)    
D3    Blue LED 2.76V @ 20mA    
      
L1    2.2uH, Core Diameter 6.49mm Coil Width2.80mm Wire 0.58mm enamal coated    Picture below


L2    Transistor radio loop antenna coil and core, origin unknown, manufacture unknown most likely China.

59uH free of core +/- 15%
686uH on core +/- 15%

The wire is to multi-strand, size smaller than a human hair, inter-woven with Cambric or Cotton and bundle is corron covered.
   Picture below
   
      
B1,B2,B3,B4    

RF suppression ferrite beads

0.551" Length
0.140" Diameter
0.025" core dis.
   


I guess C1 is the 400 pF cap he spoke of in his first video.


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2007, 05:16:50 PM »
Here are the 2 pics of
L1
and
L2

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2007, 08:02:41 PM »
who called it??? ONE WIRE TRANSMISION, no point in even looking at this, we already know about it. Tesla did it a while ago, its being done on the pyroclay thread, tesla coils use it. It DOES have OU implications if pulses are short and quick, but maybe 10 posts on teh same topic is good, more people will listen..


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2007, 08:39:05 PM »
Dr.Stiffler updated his page further.

Now the missing parts:

C1     0.01uf 1kv +/- 20% ceramic Z5U temperature coefficient


L3     9 turns of 0.018" enamal coated wire over the top and in the center of L2. L2 is covered with one layer of paper tape.
Care when winding, not to tight to damage L2.


M1     2N7000


Attached are the pictures of L3 wound over L2 on the ferrite core
and the circuit  board and the parts locations.







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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2007, 11:06:18 PM »
hmm, i think this guy has really bad problems with his server, can't open the sites again  :(

My tip to him:

Would be good if Dr.Stiffler talks to his provider and let them do the legal work on his
website problem - if it's really a DoS attack!

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2007, 12:21:18 AM »
Hmm,
well maybe he is over his
daily traffic limit as this circuit is on page one
on the Freeenergynews website !

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2007, 01:34:00 AM »
Dr. Stiffler updated his page again.
Here are the updates:

Plug Board Capacities

The two power rails that are parallel have an inner capacity of 40.8pF, additionally each rail has a capacity to the aluminum back plate. When components are connected they also have an inner strip capacity as indicated.

These capacities are a part of the overall circuit and must be accounted for in its design. If the circuit is not constructed on a similar board with similar capacities then additional capacitance may be required to replace that not supplied by the board.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2007, 10:22:23 AM »
It would be more convincing if Dr. Stiffler could remove the two connections to the scope. I know it should not give any power, but it would be better to have no wires going to the board. If it still light up, it must be some radiation he is picking up.
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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2007, 01:10:03 PM »
hmm, i'm still iffy about this because the frequency is very high (short wave, haarp uses 3,39 mhz).
while doing the test, try to use an faraday cage and no outgoing connections ...

maybe we can use haarp to power the led  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2007, 06:23:48 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 05, 2008, 09:07:32 PM by RStiffler »

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2007, 10:59:05 PM »
Well, the video was pretty cool, but now that we have the schematic and parts list, it's easy to see that the circuit is powered by the signal generator.  It's capacitively coupled through C2, bypassing the 10K resistor, and then through the input capacitance of the 2N7000 MOSFET, which is quite high.

R2 keeps the gate-to-source voltage around zero, and the data sheet for that MOSFET (http://www.ortodoxism.ro/datasheets/vishay/70226.pdf, for example) shows that the added 1V p-p signal from the signal generator is not enough to make it conduct at all, so capacitive coupling to B4 and L1 is its only function.

The inductances, C1, and other capacitances form a resonant circuit through which the signal generator drives the step-up transformer formed by L2 and L3.

L3 transmits the power to the LED at high voltage through one wire, which is pretty cool, and the D1+D2+D3 circuit picks it up.  I'm not able to analyze this part very well, but I'd guess that it uses the stray capacitiances beween the parts of the breadboard that Dr. Stiffler has already mentioned.

All in all, this circuit is pretty wierd.  I wonder why anyone would build such a thing?

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2007, 11:37:01 PM »
"All in all, this circuit is pretty wierd.  I wonder why anyone would build such a thing?"

Um... Maybe he is searching for a way to create a free energy device? Maybe that search would require something outside the box?

I feel so sorry for Mr. Stiffler. He is so down to earth, experienced and helpful and he asked for nothing in return.

There are people, such as Bruce Perrault claiming they were playing with something like that the other day and writing things like "His time in the spotlight will be short". Wow... That flavor of crazy only comes with one name.

Here is a reality check for Bruce Perrault. Remember the photo of your Perraultium element discovery? You know, when the picture was enlarged turned out to be a lemon with two probes shoved into it?

And you have the balls to question someone else's integrity?

This site is crawling with people like that and I doubt Ron will be helping out any more. Now ask yourself, Are the people that detract without building the circuit just psychos needing attention or do they earn their living making sure nobody credible ever steps out to help? Ask yourself why Hartman does not run them off? He will run off someone like me that exposes con artist and nuts though.

Mr. Stiffler is real, he is credible, he has a great deal to share and he damn sure never discovered Perraultium. Now back off psychos! If you have something to say, say it with a breadboard, meter scope and be prepared to be sliced to pieces if you are wrong or misquoted by others.

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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2007, 12:59:09 AM »
Dr. Stiffler somemore notes on his page.
Here they are:

History
 
The immediate questions are: What is this device (circuit)? What can it do? Is it Free Energy? Is it OU?
 
First let me explain my view on a couple of topics that most people have heard or read about at one time or another, they are; OU or Over Unity, FE or Free Energy, COP or Coefficient of Performance.
 
The two that are most relevant to this device are OU and FE, let me explain. The standard meaning applied to OU or Over Unity is that you get back more than you put in. A simple example is you go to the bank and deposit $10 and return another day to withdraw it. The bank gives you back $15, OU in a simplistic form.
 
The concept of FE or Free Energy is that you obtain energy to power your car, home, tv or whatever and do not incur a cost for the energy, zero power bills. In keeping with our first example, you go to a bank you have never deposited money with and they give you $10.
 
Let me now explain my view on Over Unity and Free Energy.
 
In my view of the Universe, it contains a finite amount of Potential Energy, I fully side with the current scientific view that you can not create or destroy energy. Additionally I believe as man continues to evolve and science expands it horizons that we will find many ways to tap into and utilize sources of energy that some only dream of.
 
Man will find doorways to energy sources far exceeding fossil fuels or nuclear sources that currently support our existence. This new energy source will not be Free; it will not fit the definition of Free Energy. In reality man did not pay for fossil fuel sources, but he must pay to obtain them, therein explains why the term Free Energy has no meaning, Fee does not exist, nowhere in the Universe will you ever find Free Energy, you will always have a cost.
 
Now for OU or Over Unity, well again in my opinion this idea is in error. If you think you are getting something for nothing then you have not looked back far enough in the chain of events leading up to the specific observational point in time. Simply stated in a Law derived by Newton, 'For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction'. This most certainly applies to potential energies of all forms, current and hypothetical. Conversion of energy into a kinetic form does indeed ripple in effect both forward and backward in time.
 
So now that I have explained that I do not adhere to the concepts of OU and FE lets move forward with the understanding that OU and FE are erroneous views on what will eventually become a common straight forward method of accessing and using a new form of energy. A form that already exists, that is intimately entwined with all other forms and passes through multiple conversion processes to return to its original potential form after being manifested in a kinetic form.
 
 
Now to this specific circuit and what it does and is.
 
 
 
 
 


Alexander V. Frolov{1} , titled "The Work that is Created by Means of Potential Field", taken from the Report on the International Conference ?New Ideas in Natural Sciences? St.-Petersburg, June 1996.

The paper covered work by it originator S. V. Avramenko{2} , titled "The Measuring of Conduction Current That is Stimulated by Polarization Current",  published in the 'Journal of Russian Physical Society, No# 2, 1991'.

At approximately the same time, (shortly thereafter) JLN Labs{3} ,posted experiments which followed more closely the Avramenko single line transmission work.

 
Some work was also done and available on a website by Stefan Hartmann{4}  ,although these pages appear to no longer be available.
 
Stiffler Scientific, Plasma Power
http://www.drstiffler.com/plasmapwr.asp


Test Equipment (used in this research)

Oscilloscopes

Tektronix 2445, Probes - 10:1, 10M/10.8pf P/N P6131
Fluke PM3082, Probes - 10:1, 10M/12pf P/N PM9010/091  1:1. 56pf P/N PM9001/001
Velleman HPS40 - 10:1/1:1 integral 10M

DVM

Extech 430
Extech MA200
Fluke 8022A
MasTech M-830B

LCR

Elenco 1810

Signal Generators

Wavetek 181
B&K 3017A

 

Laboratory & Environment

Our lab is located in a bioresearch facility build in the mid-nineties. The lab was not constructed with RF or sensitive electronics work in mind, it therefore has no RF shielding or integral grounding bus bars. The lab is located in close proximity to a 50kw AM transmitter operating on a frequency of 1520kHz. Additionally there are high RF levels from an FM radio station in range of 98mHz. To the best of our knowledge all internal noise generation equipment has been identified and accounted for in the electronics lab.

Normal 120V/240V service wiring within the lab has been identified as a ground loop generator and is accounted for in experiments in which such ground loops will have an effect.

 

{1}Alexander V. Frolov

Power for Nothing


Sources of Excess Energy


Power from Nothing
   

http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov2.htm

http://www.skybooksusa.com/time-travel/physics/enersour.htm

http://www.eskimo.com/~bilb/freenrg/frolov2.txt

 
   

{2} Avramenko's US and foreign Patents.

United States Patent Aug. 15, 2000 Avramenko et al.

also see from November 25, 1993
   

http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?CY=ch&LG=fr&DB=EPODOC&IDX=US6104107&DOC=dcb65d04ab6820d7924a01bf873fe6b65d

http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?CY=ch&LG=fr&DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO9323907&DOC=deb45b02a96923dc96560dcb934bf2c269

{3} Avramenko's Free Electrons Pump ( AFEP v1.0)

By Jean-Louis Naudin created on November 1st, 1999 - JLN Labs - Last update November 3rd, 1999

Single-Wire Energy Transmission test By Jean-Louis Naudin created on November 3rd,, 1999 - JLN Labs - Last update November 5th,
   

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep01.htm


http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep01.htm
{4} Stefan Hartmann       http://www.overunity.com
   


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Re: Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2007, 03:43:31 AM »

There are people, such as Bruce Perrault claiming they were playing with something like that the other day and writing things like "His time in the spotlight will be short". Wow... That flavor of crazy only comes with one name.


I have no idea who this Bruce Perrault is but I am the one that made the statement about spotlights. This was not made to defame the man. I don't know him. The reason for it was because his website contents are in agreement with my thoughts and beliefs AND previous experimental results. Those thoughts and beliefs have certainly turned the lights off for me and done the same to many others.

As far as posting very little experimental detail - why should I bother repeating something I did 20+ years ago? If you don't believe something said then either ignore it or prove/disprove it to yourself.

the B and the P in BEP stands for something you wouldn't understand and most likley wouldn't believe. As in callsigns - BEP was a substation of a network. The B stood for Berlin............


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