Hey Honk,
You got a fascinating thing goin on here... I've got a couple of questions of course, and maybe an idea or two that might throw a monkey wrench into the mix
See my answers in blue.
1. Would it help the situation if there were 2 of these motors stacked on a single shaft? I.E.
Have the 2nd motor rotated a bit so that the sticky spots do not overlap.
Would having a setup like this decrease the "stickyness" to the sticky spot?
No, it would not help. There would just be 4 sticky spots and four electro magnets to overcome the stickyness.
It would only help if the motors was made in the opposite attraction mode and mounted exactly in the same position onto the shaft to
make use of the same electro magnets that will have to be bent between motors like a horse shoe magnet.
By this setup just two electro magnets is needed to do the jobb in a dual motor.
Right now my focus is to build a single motor.
The dual pancake setup is just to difficult to make and it would take to long time to finish.
2. Instead of using a normal N/S magnet in the rotor, could you potentially replace it with a Halbach array?
I've been surfing this forum for a while now and I don't think I've seen anyone mention using an array as a rotor or
a stator anywhere (correct me if I'm wrong - I've been gone a while).
If I'm reading the info on Halbach array's correctly they are the closest thing we could get to a magnetic monopole...
No, a Halbach array can't be used in this type of motor. A Halbach array constantly switches polarity, that's the nature of this array.
All of the rotor magnets must face the same direction, and all of the stator must must also face the same direction, and there must be
attraction between the rotor and stator magnets, elseway there would be no rotational force due to the gradient slope of the stator magnets.
The rotor magnets seek to find the area with the most flux and this is at the most narrow area between the rotor and stator magnets
In other words, at the very end of the stator magnet array just before the electro magnet.
3. Why use a stainless steel guide for the stator magnets? Will that not affect the magnetic field lines a little bit?
I understand that the effect will be fairly minimal, but in researching magnetic shielding a bit I'd think that there would be some kind of affect.
Perhaps a good quality plastic would be a better idea - I understand that it wouldn't be laser precise, but a good injection mould can do wonderful things
The best would be to use magnetic back iron. This would enchance the flux of the magnets and make the motor stronger.
But magnetic back iron is to soft to be precision cut by laser into these fine tolorances that I need.
Second best is stainless steel. Perhaps hard plastic in certain areas, but I have no access to cut plastic in a good way.
I'd like to add that plain Non oriented silicon steel is the absolutely best choise of material to use as flux enhancing back iron.
It's easy to cut, pretty cheap but is to difficult to get hold of in the specific size and quantity I'll need.
Therefore I have chosen ordinary stainless steel.
4. This is just a pure question for you Honk, because you sound like you really know your stuff
Would a product like Giron (
http://www.lessemf.com/mag-shld.html) be of any use in a motor like this?
I.E. inserting it into the sticky spot to change if from a sticky spot to a coast spot. My understanding of magnetic shielding is very limited...
No, if you insert some kind of shield into the sticky spot area you just shift the sticky spot to the magnets besides the old spot.
You see, the sticky spot is nothing more than the strongest flux position between the rotor and stator magnets.
If you take away the sticky spot by inserting a shield, then the magnets next to the shield will form a new sticky spot.
And the magnets always seek to find the area of the most flux.
Thanks for the great work and honest and forthright replies Honk! I look forward to more details so we can all get to building one
or 2... maybe 3...
My pleasure / Honk