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Offline BEP

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2007, 08:48:02 PM »
@ BEP

It's true about the magnet doing the same as DC bias, but in a ring how do you use it Longitudinally ?

Thinking outkeyboard...

You put another ring above the first and place the magnets as shown in the video  ??? The coil in the leg is positioned so when powered it slews the magnet's field to bias the wave on the bottom ring. Since the top ring is paramagnetic it mirrors the activity of the bottom ring (reverse or 90 leading?). The rings also distribute the fields from both magnets. Possibly the magnets are reverse of each other creating a standing magnetic wave. This standing wave would then rotate as the 'control coils's' fields twist it.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2007, 08:51:28 PM »
@EM, BEP & All

Privileged to know you Geniuses ;D

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2007, 09:38:15 PM »
Here's a better explanation of the OPEN TPU.

EM


EM:
I haven't been following the TPU thread for a while. I think you may be onto something interesting.
Wouldn't it be ironic if the magician who made up the fake 6" TPU video (with batteries) actually solved the real stuff!
I really hope you'll win the OU prize.

regards
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2007, 10:02:09 PM »
@EM & BEP

I recall one of bolts posts where he stated that SM had said a couple of posters were getting close before, I think since EM's breakthrough here it is probably worth you guys taking another look at those posters work, if you can find it, to see if further insights might be gained in the light of your new knowledge.

From bolts post with words that resonate highlighted  8):

"SM has very nearly spilled the beans on this risking his freedom and pay packet. He is right he has said far too much already. SM mentioned Bushwacker and Freedomfuel for getting close. Bushwacker dedicated most of his time working on the Hope device. IMO it will never work he is only making a cooker peizo coil but he was named because he was injecting AUDIO sine waves into his hope device. However the guy reads like a crank to me every post was about abductions and threats  from MIB  which i very much doubt they would be interested in his cooker coil. Freedomfuel was mentioned because of his excellent theory. He was bang on correct about how this works but for some reason i recon he saw the potential good and BAD and decided to walk away. But he deleted over 100 very critical posts and was leaps ahead of most other on here 12 months ago. For all i know he has a working model."

Link to bolts post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg49823.html#msg49823

Has anyone an archived copy of Freedomfuel's deleted posts? (Mine doesn't go back that far) If so please post as ZIP copy here for all.


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« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 12:17:57 AM by acerzw »


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TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2007, 10:10:22 PM »
[snip]
3. Waves of magnetostrictive movement can follow standard wave functions - like interference, summation, cancellation, harmonics, FFT, etc.
At least #3 is the only way I can explain why I pump high freeks in and it buzzes below 60Hz.

@BEP

Do the high freqs have any sum or difference products that are 60Hz or less?

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TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2007, 10:10:22 PM »
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2007, 10:36:58 PM »
@Earl

I looked at it every angle I could dream up. The only one that may fit is the mechanical movement may have been an even divisor of the coil frequency.
Since the oscillator used was a blocking I suspect the osc ran at the lowest portion of the coil bandwidth that was an even multiple of the sonic resonance of the core.
It was too fast to count but certainly less than 60. I've since scrounged the experiment for others.

So the answer is no. However, the frequency was not stable. It drifted within a small range....was the range in the tens of Hertz? I'll have to try to repeat it.

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« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2007, 11:59:37 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 05:31:32 PM by duff »

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2007, 11:59:37 PM »
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2007, 12:18:13 AM »
FreedomFuel's Posts on OUPower.com:

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1451&

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=965&sid=99dd455689e25b3bb25b443fadca42b2

Around the time that he left, Freedomfuel tried to convince people to "bury the TPU", stating that it could explode and was very dangerous, etc.

A couple of other good posts here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=937.78



PS - I think EMDevices was on the right track with this post:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=712.msg48900#msg48900



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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2007, 12:56:13 AM »
PS - I think EMDevices was on the right track with this post:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=712.msg48900#msg48900

Agreed then and now to "A varying E-field in a vertical plane will give rise to a magnetic field that circulates around the E-field vectors".

Do we all realize that the reverse is true? A circulating magnetic field will give rise to a varying E-field in a vertical plane centered on that circulating magnetic field.

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« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2007, 01:13:03 AM »
@duff & Grumpy

Thanks for those excellent links... there are some pretty interesting links cited in FreedomFuels second posting, might be worth a look, I notice one refers to magnetic reconnection.

Acerzw
« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 01:52:50 AM by acerzw »

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2007, 01:13:03 AM »
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« Reply #70 on: October 05, 2007, 02:03:13 AM »
PS - I think EMDevices was on the right track with this post:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=712.msg48900#msg48900

Agreed then and now to "A varying E-field in a vertical plane will give rise to a magnetic field that circulates around the E-field vectors".

Do we all realize that the reverse is true? A circulating magnetic field will give rise to a varying E-field in a vertical plane centered on that circulating magnetic field.

Just think hard and seriously about that for a minute. 

See it? 

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2007, 02:34:34 AM »
I don't recall Freedomfuel saying he built and tested anything like the TPU. Does anyone know if he did?

If he didn't, I wonder what could have caused his sudden aversion to TPU research?

If he did experiment, I guess the reason is obvious.


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« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2007, 02:45:33 AM »
I don't have to think about it. I turned it off back in March. What do you think got me branded a heretic, even in an OU forum?
Slow watches, light shifts, waveguides, EMP devices - should I go on?

Hmmm.... now that I've seen some of FredomFuel's posts.....

I'm just wondering if everyone else understands how important rotation is. Yes, there is power and maybe even some OU in MS mode but the real power is at least another step.

So we produce this LW traveling in a circle and each time it passes we give it another kick in the pants until there is no more room for our kicks.

I feel a need to theorize but I just took a pill that will go away shortly  :)

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« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2007, 03:59:48 AM »
I don't have to think about it. I turned it off back in March. What do you think got me branded a heretic, even in an OU forum?
Slow watches, light shifts, waveguides, EMP devices - should I go on?

Well, turn it back on!

You're a damn "Hero" not a "heritic"!


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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2007, 04:21:22 AM »
I don't recall Freedomfuel saying he built and tested anything like the TPU. Does anyone know if he did?

If he didn't, I wonder what could have caused his sudden aversion to TPU research?

If he did experiment, I guess the reason is obvious.


I know what happened with FreedomFuel.

He deleted his posts and posted that last thread of his warning about the TPU's dangers and second-guessing the open sourcing of the TPU not because he HAD a working TPU, but FreedomFuel thought that WE HAD a working TPU, or were soon to have one.

Let me explain. Right about that time, the end of '06, gn0stik, Mannix, ctglabs, me, and a few others deleted ALL of our posts on OU.com, and we basically went into hiding at gn0sis.com. It was meant to be a sort of Manhattan-type project where SM was supposed to PERSONALLY show up and guide us, as long as the forum was secure enough, which it was. But, SM never showed, due in part to his one letter about his meeting with gov officials which scared him to death. Right about that time frame, the end of '06, it wasn't just FreedomFuel, but a lot of others were really wondering what happened to us all and our posts, since we up and left so quickly from OU.com, and FreedomFuel, among others, totally thought that we ALREADY had a working TPU, or just about.

So, it is in that emotional environment in which FreedomFuel's last postings were done, he thought we had a TPU, and he was suddenly second-guessing the whole open sourcing of it's technology, for the reason's he gave. He was trying to portray a sense of caution to the people he thought HAD (or were about to have) working TPUs.

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