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Offline RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2007, 01:33:28 PM »
Uh oh, I feel I should be sarcastic at this point, but since the nature of the problem has not been specified then I will go along with suspicion, the voltage was asked for and suddenly you cannot post here anymore, come on!, really what is so hard about saying it is such and such volts at such and such amps?

ppl i have a prob ...cnat post any more

good luck

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2007, 01:45:08 PM »
If the circuit used is the one on page 7 of D14.pdf, then those coils will produce considerable EMF when fed with a square wave, that means considerably high voltage spikes, so for a few milliamps you will certainly get a good reaction within the chamber, but lets take a guess at the voltage figure, lets assume that the average voltage spikes are 100 volts, the current drawn is .5 amps, that 100x.5 = 50 watts! dissipation for each spike.


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2007, 01:45:57 PM »

Good moaning Roaring Bard  ;D!

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2007, 03:00:23 PM »
ppl i have a prob ...cnat post any more

good luck

hi just thought i would say check ravzz last post at

http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1602&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120



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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2007, 07:30:00 PM »
What you all need to know is, The story below is ABOUT Ravi himself...

So, don't go jumping on the guy about not posting Volts/Amps,etc... For all those doubters thinking he stopped posting because he was asked about volts/amps measurements, the story below COULD be fake, but it was written MONTHS ago, and Ravi himself never wanted to post on the forums until many people convinced him to release all of his information, and that is what he has been doing for the last 2 weeks online via videos and the two forum threads. So, knowing what he has already been through... It is reasonable to believe 'they' might have re-contacted him in some way...




February 5, 2007:
In the country of India an inventor had just secretly replicated Stan Meyer's success. He called a friend to report his success.  The next day 9 "suits" showed up at his business demanding an immediate audit of all his business records.  While rummaging through his business files, one of the MIB's told the inventor he had to stop working on hydrogen, but gave no reason. The men then took his computers and numerous business records.  The inventor was then told to come down to a government office to pick up his records the following week.  When he arrived at the appointed time, he recognized 6 or the original 9 men.  3 were missing.  The man who told him to stop working on hydrogen was one of the 3 missing.  The inventor asked of that person's whereabouts.  The manager of the tax office said he had never seen them before, just that they came down from a "higher office" and informed that tax branch they had to do an immediate audit on the inventor's business.  No explanation given.  No one fitting that description cold be located at the "higher office."


From http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html:
Recent Harassment on a Stan Meyer Cell Builder in India 2-1-07
We are familiar with the suppression of free-energy devices. In the USA there have been literally thousands of cases - for example, Bill Williams for running his truck on a Joe Cell, T Henry Moray for pulling kilowatts out of the environment and Ed Gray for daring to have a power tube with an output power 100 times the input power.

In Australia there is intense opposition to anyone using the Nitro Cell on any engine. In New Zealand, to the magnetic motor of Robert Adams which is 700% efficient. In the UK, to devices for water-splitting and permanent magnet motors. In Japan to Teruo Kawai?s patented magnetic motor which is 160% efficient.

But in the last week there has been an instance of it in India, in spite of the fact that the bus service in Mumbai has been run on hydrogen for some years now. A man, who wishes to remain anonymous in order not to aggravate the current situation, has just been picked on. He has been running a business for the last 23 years and has a good relationship with his local Commercial Taxation Office staff.

He became interested in Dave Lawton?s replication and decided to try it for himself. The seven pictures which I have placed in the Files section of the Group in the folder ?RAVZZ? show his high standard of workmanship. He encountered a minor problem with his implementation of the electronic driving circuit, and so contacted Dave Lawton for technical advice. This was given and the problem solved. He then e-mailed Dave some pictures showing his progress.

Within 8 hours, his premises were raided by nine people supposedly from the local Tax Office. In actual fact, six of them were from the local office and the other three were unknown to the locals who had been ordered to take them along. During their search of the place, the man was told that he would be well advised to discontinue all work connected to hydrogen. That shows clearly that the ?raid? had nothing whatsoever to do with taxation and the Tax Office was just being used as an excuse to invade the privacy of an individual.

They spent six hours checking everything eventually left, taking commercial records with them, and subsequently requested that our friend attend their local office on Wednesday (the day before yesterday). He attended, sensibly taking people from his business as witnesses. The six local officials were there and they returned the records taken, stating that there was nothing wrong with the records or the tax position. They also said that they were bewildered by the whole affair. He asked them about the other three men, and they said that the Commissioners office had asked them to take them along....and they have no idea who they were!

He then had a long conversation with the Deputy Commercial Tax Officer who had came over to his place. He also seemed confused as to why they were hurried up to go over to his place from the Commissioners office. He said that the Commissioners office received a complaint from some higher authorities and these people were given written instructions (an unusual thing in itself) to go to his office and make some checks, usually this happens but the visits are done after 3-4 days of the receipt of the letter from the Commissioners office based on the time allotment, but in this case there were 4 calls directly from the Commissioners office to go over to his place immediately !!

This is a typical case of deliberate intimidation and it is unusual only because it is in India. It also shows that Dave Lawton?s e-mails are being intercepted and read as this man did not mention his hydrogen work to anyone else. Dave once made the mistake of applying for a development grant from his Local Authority. The grant was to help develop one of his inventions. He was visited by two unpleasant individuals who took away his written proposal. Nothing ever came of it and when Dave asked for his documents back, they lied, saying that they has posted them. When he pressured them, they did eventually send the documents back, and the date stamp on the envelope shows that the documents were posted long after they originally claimed that they had been sent. It turns out that these men have no connection with the Local Authority Grants section and it seems clear that they fall into the same category as the three ?unknown? men in India who carried out the raid.
presumably, Dave?s phone calls and e-mails have been intercepted and monitored ever since and that is what triggered the raid in India.

The raid in India is very interesting in that it shows clearly that the opposition are very much afraid of Stan Meyer?s Water Fuel Cell. This implies that the cell is capable of producing serious amounts of free-energy and can break our dependency on fossil fuels.

February 2, 2007

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2007, 07:30:00 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2007, 03:28:24 AM »
Very interesting topic and makes sense to me. I have spent many years tinkering with RF circuits and the concept of inducing high voltage and high frequency sounds correct but im not fortunate enough to have access to lab materials to test this stuff. To apply only DC is just brute force. It appears to me the rods act as an antenna rather than a capacitor. In fact the rods or plates are akin to an end fed dipole. In an RF circuit when the circuit is untuned the current input to the circuit is very high i.e. the 10 amp range we typically see on these experiments. Like wise as the Plate and Load capacitor is adjusted in a Pi Tank circuit feeding an antenna or tube system in our case we find the resonance of the system. This is coupled with low standing waves and very high voltages when fed with pulse width modulation. I would be interested to know if anyone tested pure sine wave instead of PWM as PWM creates massive harmonics.  I am in no doubt you will know when you have found the "sweet spot" because the input current will drop dramatically while gas produced will peak when the system becomes resonant. The choke and capacitor values will also be critical to system performance because once this works I would expect to see at least 500-700 volts on the tubes and it not impossible to see a blue glow followed by a ton of gas emitted. Be careful because I would not discount producing soft X-rays and staring at the blue glows is not a good idea!

While on the subject of input power its very hard to accurately measure power on the pulsed side of the circuit. Most cheap digital meters are designed to read DC or AC current at 50/60 HZ with equal duty cycle and could read anything at 3 kHz with tiny pulse width. So measure everything on the DC input side and this is better anyway as then you take into account all switching and control equipment when calculating efficiency.

Of course this application is not just limited to vehicles. In many 3rd world countries many hours of blackouts are common and running generators for electricity is very expensive to keep basic needs such as fridge, lights and water pump going and even 30% fuel saving is huge.

Anway, very exciting and i wish you all the best of luck.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2007, 03:29:10 AM »
Is this forum infiltrated with oil company men, if so, Im sure Stefan will have a field day with you. Ill be watching.

Ravi has stopped due to the spooks attempting suppression.
Please post this in as many forums publicly as possible do you part to protect yourselfs.

It Seems the spooks are trying to scare Ravi again,

Quote from an email last night

"I have just received a call about 5 mins ago on my land line asking me to stop posting on the forums and youtube. If I still do they said that someone will have to visit me personally to take care of it. I dont have a caller ID on the line. This person had a British accent.

 
Please try and save all the posting till now on I dont know if I can post anymore...but i'll try keep in touch.-end

Do not be afraid to replicate Ravi's and Lawtons results and post your results, to be afraid is exactly what they want, Bill Williams took a shot gun to them, they have not been back, the more we replicate Ravi's and Lawtons findings the more the meek will by natural selection be quelled.

I will be reporting this incident to the mainstream news, and disclosing it with our replication results which are under way ATM.

I pity the spooks if they come after us, i have arranged 20 people to be waiting for them,  I know they are reading this, and wanted to set a trap, i hope they think im joking and just come after us.

I look forward to seeing you guys soon.

Ravi and any one experiencing this is to file a complaint with the local police so that it is on record and give them all details. Send us (panacea-bocaf.org) the address of the police station and the name of the officer and the time he logged the report.

If there is any one in India we know and trust also get them to contact US first. The other thing is to get Ravi the find out the names of the people who visited him from the Tax Office and the positions they hold. Give the names to us and the name of the person in charge.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/EngineerinIndia.htm

We have many volunteers in our Non profit org and even a volunteer private investigator.

The good news is it works if they are trying to spook Ravi.
So start replicating.

regards
ashtweth



 

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2007, 06:55:15 AM »
this is what everyone should know

http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Suppression

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2007, 12:05:19 PM »


Dear Ravi,

why haven't you made a "package" of all your replication's information and send it everywhere in just one time?
 
Why have you, like others, distilled some incomplete revelation ? You knew it was risky.
Now, see what's happening again and again... another MIB episode.

Is it a remake of the Neverending Story????

In the movies, each heros knows that to protect himself from the villains the best is to reveal the whole secret throughout the medias.

Why haven't you sent the whole secret to the whole community in a single file? A simple click was sufficient...


??????????????????????...................


Why always repeating the same error ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2007, 12:05:19 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2007, 12:23:11 PM »
do you honestly reckon http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf isnt good enough?> well?  ???

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2007, 12:25:47 PM »
I think Ravi has done enough already having released several vids on youtube and several posts on here to let us and "them" know how far his project as progressed. There is certainly enough information to allow others to reproduce his findings if they wanted too. The concept is fairly straight forward. Just hit the cell with the right frequency and input power will drop dramatically as gas production seemingly soars over unity. Clearly anyone attempting this kind of stuff should forget about marketing it and use it for their own use only and tell NO ONE.


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with SURPRESSING ?
« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2007, 01:06:20 PM »
SOME INTERESTED RECEIVED MAILS ....



Hi all, I found this in the bulk folder, wonder why
hm?

This is from ashtweth:

--- ashtweth_nihilistic <ashtweth@gmail.com> wrote:

> To: radianth2o@yahoogroups.com
> From: "ashtweth_nihilistic" <ashtweth@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:29:00 -0000
> Subject: [radianth2o] Scare Tactics used to try and
> discourage a Meyers replicaiton
>
> Please post this in as many forums publicly as
> possible do you part to
> protect yourselfs.
>
> It Seems the spooks are trying to scare Ravi again,
>
> Quote from an email last night
>
> "I have just received a call about 5 mins ago on my
> land line asking
> me to stop posting on the forums and youtube. If I
> still do they said
> that someone will have to visit me personally to
> take care of it. I
> dont have a caller ID on the line. This person had a
> British accent.
>
>
> Please try and save all the posting till now on I
> dont know if I can
> post anymore...but i'll try keep in touch.-end
>
> Do not be afraid to replicate Ravi's and Lawtons
> results and post your
> results, to be afraid is exactly what they want,
> Bill Williams took a
> shot gun to them, they have not been back, the more
> we replicate
> Ravi's and Lawtons findings the more the meek will
> by natural
> selection be quelled.
>
> I will be reporting this incident to the mainstream
> news, and
> disclosing it with our replication results which are
> under way ATM.
>
> I pity the spooks if they come after us, i have
> arranged 20 people to
> be waiting for them, I know they are reading this,
> and wanted to set
> a trap, i hope they think im joking and just come
> after us.
>
> I look forward to seeing you guys soon.
>
> Ravi and any one experiencing this is to file a
> complaint with the
> local police so that it is on record and give them
> all details. Send
> us (panacea-bocaf.org) the address of the police
> station and the name
> of the officer and the time he logged the report.
>
> If there is any one in India we know and trust also
> get them to
> contact US first. The other thing is to get Ravi the
> find out the
> names of the people who visited him from the Tax
> Office and the
> positions they hold. Give the names to us and the
> name of the person
> in charge.
> http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/EngineerinIndia.htm
>
> We have many volunteers in our Non profit org and
> even a volunteer
> private investigator.
>
> The good news is it works if they are trying to
> spook Ravi.
> So start replicating.
>
> regards
> ashtweth
>
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other  infos now:

 
 Stan Meyers bifilar choke design - taking a look at it with references:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ozpRNpM6FqM
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see an very good LINK collection here: www.pese.cjb.net
 
« Last Edit: August 29, 2007, 10:51:20 PM by pese »

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #88 on: August 29, 2007, 01:43:36 PM »
There is no reason For Ravi to Compile anykinda List and txt's etc for you, Ravi Came out into the open with his findings, and if you where listening you'd know how to do it,.

He said, Anneal your pipes, he said condition them, i'm not posting the instruction because they're findable on the forums, he said do not use any resistance when conditioning. he said use the lawton schematic thats been updated. He said the conditioning of the tubes Is time consuming, you want get rid of the brown muck in 2 days!

It took him 3 months to condition his tubes based on what you see in the video.
He said Sand the inside and out of the tube after anealing, also to anneal in N type of gas.

The inside is Negative, The out Positive. Change water after every cycle, Dont leave muck, Change water TIll you think you're about to fall over dead.

The .50 amp high hydrogen output can be achieved with the lawton circuit alone. he just bettered it.

Now, i say. Condition your tubes, you'll notice a White haz look to the Negative electrode over a periode of time, you'll prolley notice the water looking orange, and also that the positive electrode is ugly, and has no white haze. you should then Switch  polaritys for a while to get the positive tube to match the negative one, when you have gotton this for you'll notice the water is still orange, and you can look into the container and wow yourself with how much hydrogen it's producing. The goal is to get the orange out of the water.

he has instructions for how to condition after being annealed. i have them to, so add this to his instuctions because their totaly different.

Start with 3 amps if you can handle it, if not then 2, run the shit out of it till you see about an half inch of muck, change water and repeat for 2 days.

after everything apears to be normal, take the tubes and run them under water, looking threw them to make sure they're not clogged, if they're then dissasemble, clean with detergant and start over. dont worry, you can clean without removing the white haze.

repeat repeat repeat

if you would have noticed he did take the time to tell you the volts and amps used, and when you are farting around with phisics and making water glow orange anythnig is possible.

Take this, save it, don't loose it, spread it,  GOOD LUCK, I hope you'll listen to this post rather than obviously not reading his post, thats why i know what you dont.

Good luck with the conditioning and don't pull all your hair out.

Oh, my opinion is when you start getting cleaner water you can start droping the amps to condition, but he also has a diy condition instruction guide, i havent tried it. 


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2007, 03:26:25 PM »
My apologies to Ravi, I've since found all his information, I'm in the process of getting together the things needed for replication, I'm not one to take things on face value and videos are easily faked as I've already shown, but Ravi's replication looks very promising, I've already performed extremely simple tests with materials and its looking good, I cannot wait to get my hands on the needed materials to construct the chamber.

To Ravi if your still reading this, again I apologize and thank you very much for all your efforts, I hope whoever is threatening you get whats coming to them!

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
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