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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power  (Read 547320 times)

Offline ravzz

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2007, 06:54:48 PM »
Alright People some have been very skeptical about the volumes I mentioned....so this video is for especially for them!!



Sorry about the bad quality....the natural light wasnt there like in the videos 7 & 8......so you need to adjust with this till I make a fresh one with better lighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ

Well Hydro looks like you were right the WFC seems to be producing more!!
1.31min into the video the gas collection was started and stopped at 1.51min of the video......20 secs to be exact.

The gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC....
As some might say that there could be Steam / Vapour / Mist......lets just take the output as 150CC in 20 Secs.

This comes to 7.5CC of HHO/Sec at 0.48A - 0.50A.

Last I checked with the old leads was 7.0 CC HHO without any thing removed from the generation.




Stefan I hope this is what you had asked for.



Ravi

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2007, 07:37:18 PM »


#1. Yes the SS wires act as resistors. The specificresistance of 316L is around 75 Micro-Ohm-cm and that of copper is 1.72 Micro-Ohm-cm. The leads heat up when higher amps are drawn by the freq gen....you can see this in the videos  I posted. I've replaced the leads upto the bottom of the WFC with 4 Sqmm double insulated copper wire and the heat generation did come down. I need to check if theres any increase / decrease in generation.

#2. I have spot welded the 316L wires to the tubes. Used silicone to keep them in place and avoid shorting. The tubes are plastic for insulation. Yes you can use copper wire sealed in silicone sealant. Cover the exposed copper leads in the water with silicone sealant as well.


Ravi and all,
remember, if you have 2 different metals fixed together and run a big current through
it, one side will heat up, cause you have the Seebeck effect, it is like a thermo element...

So maybe it is just better to use the same SS material also for the connections
and use low current and high voltage and low conduction water
to break the H20 bonds apart...

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2007, 07:49:59 PM »
Alright People some have been very skeptical about the volumes I mentioned....so this video is for especially for them!!



Sorry about the bad quality....the natural light wasnt there like in the videos 7 & 8......so you need to adjust with this till I make a fresh one with better lighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ

Well Hydro looks like you were right the WFC seems to be producing more!!
1.31min into the video the gas collection was started and stopped at 1.51min of the video......20 secs to be exact.

The gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC....
As some might say that there could be Steam / Vapour / Mist......lets just take the output as 150CC in 20 Secs.

This comes to 7.5CC of HHO/Sec at 0.48A - 0.50A.

Last I checked with the old leads was 7.0 CC HHO without any thing removed from the generation.




Stefan I hope this is what you had asked for.



Ravi

Hi Ravi,
well done.
We now really see, how much gas you are producing.
Well done with this setup.

But the question still is, what kind of pulses
do you use at the pipes ?
Can you loan a scope from someone and show the pulses on a scope ?

Where did you connect exactly your Ampmeter ?
As it is an ampmeter for high current DC amps probably,
it would not work good
for low current Khz frequency pulses...
So the reading could be wrong.

Can you try to use an analog DC ampmeter and also
show the used voltage on an analog voltmeter ?

With digital meters you can get wrong readings very easily.
Best would be to use a 12 Volts battery and hook onto it
the DC ampmeter, then next after this 2 or 3 lowpass LC filters
with big chokes and for instance 10.000 uF capacitors
and then going into the input to your frequency driver.

This way you would really measure a DC only input into the
LC lowpassfilters and then into the frequency driver,
so you are sure you have the right input power without
pulses destroying your DC amps measurements.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2007, 01:18:58 AM »
My approach to amps measurement in this case would be at the mains source, by  a meter oblivious to phase shift.

Better still, use a fully charged rechargable battery of known storage characteristics.   Power yer circuit for a while, quantify gas production, note time of operation, shut it all down and recharge the battery with a mAh counting charger.

See exactly how much power went into the process via battery, divide into gas production for gas per watt.

This would go a long was towards validation.   Many wattmeters cain't deal with pulses and phase shifts.   Measure the source if possible.

Turtle


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2007, 02:26:22 AM »
Perhaps I missed it somewhere, is the voltage measured?

I can get huge reactions from a few milliamps so long as I have very very high voltage, eg it is the input wattage that is needed, voltage or current alone are meaningless, if voltage and current are quoted we can then at least calculate the wattage which is the most important calculation when measuring input to output ratios.


Alright People some have been very skeptical about the volumes I mentioned....so this video is for especially for them!!



Sorry about the bad quality....the natural light wasnt there like in the videos 7 & 8......so you need to adjust with this till I make a fresh one with better lighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSUe76PZLQ

Well Hydro looks like you were right the WFC seems to be producing more!!
1.31min into the video the gas collection was started and stopped at 1.51min of the video......20 secs to be exact.

The gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC....
As some might say that there could be Steam / Vapour / Mist......lets just take the output as 150CC in 20 Secs.

This comes to 7.5CC of HHO/Sec at 0.48A - 0.50A.

Last I checked with the old leads was 7.0 CC HHO without any thing removed from the generation.




Stefan I hope this is what you had asked for.



Ravi

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2007, 02:26:22 AM »
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Offline keithturtle

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2007, 02:31:12 AM »
My post presupposed voltage measurement, as wattage cain't be calculated without it.
Sorry I fergot to mention that.
Turtle

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2007, 07:25:20 AM »
Hi Stefan,

I do have an analogue DC Amp meter fixed in the Freq Gen. The digital meter I have was read on the range of 0 to 20A and the analogue shows almost the same but you can see that it keeps fluctuating with the pulse.....even thats at around 0.5A.

The voltage is straight DC from the AC to DC converter. Is there any thing else I might be missing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taFrw3xxDow



Hydro the LED on the left part of the circuit is placed before the switch and you can see that when the switch is turned off the right LED doesn't blink and the current draw increases by more than four fold! The right LED is on pin 3 of the second 555. I hope this clears what you had in mind Hydro.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2007, 07:25:20 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2007, 07:52:46 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2007, 07:57:00 AM »
Looks good now.
So I see, that you are using a 12 Volt power supply to run the whole thing, right ?

Are you using just pulses in the Hz region not Khz range ?

Is your circuit the D14.PDF page 7 circuit
with 2 x 555 timers ?

What are the exact 2 frequencies ?
Can you show also the chokes in your video
or just open up your plastic box and have
a
longer look into it ?
Many thanks.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2007, 08:14:03 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I've received a mail asking me to market the system....I would want to close this topic once and for all.....so im posting the reply to the mail.

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Im free sourcing what i've done......all the circuits needed and the hardware that I used including the dimensions is on this thread and the thread at www.oupower.com

Trust me you wouldnt be allowed to market this unit....the world economy runs on fuel and energy taxation.....you cant put something into the market that is going to alter everything the way we know it.....it takes time for everything to evolve.....this is the future but if you can make it....make it for yourself. I've already been raided once for trying to experiment with this technology....and free sourcing is the only way out for this kind of technology.

I am already collaborating with Panacea-Bocaf to release some ideas where in this system can be used to augment non-conventional fuels (which have very low calorific values) in the power generation sector. This idea would basically curtail immediate job losses and would give time for the economies to evolve to the next generation fuels but eventually it would seep down to the grass roots level in a few decades.

I'm posting this mail on the thread so that everyone gets to know that I dont expect any commercial returns from this system.


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This belongs to the world its free!! even if you cant completely run an engine on this it can give you increased fuel efficiencies to the range of 50%.....like it did to someone in one of the videos posted in this thread....the improvement is from 28 miles/gal to 45 miles/gal....this is an increase of almost 60% !!....I cant vouch for his claims....I havent tried this and I dont intend to aswell....

But please do post your results incase you try this system.....This would be the smallest gratitude that I expect for my effort.

Even if the efficiency improvement is 20 to 30% depending on the driving conditions.....it would be a huge favor we are doing to the world we live in....and we are saving that much percentage of pollution that our children and the future generations don't need to live with.


RAVI

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2007, 08:14:03 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2007, 08:24:59 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2007, 08:44:01 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2007, 08:45:43 AM »
Hi Ravi,

Why is it so hard to give a real measurement of the power used?
There are already many posts dealing with the same issue and you seem to give a lot of lateral explanations instead of doing the simplest thing: to answer directly to these concerns.

What is that difficult in placing a DC ammeter immediately after the 12V power source and then an electrolytic capacitor in parallel with the freq generator and also a DC voltmeter on the capacitor and do a close-to-real real power estimate?!

If the input power is only about 6W, a capacitor of 30-50 miliF should do. It should keep the voltage and current fluctuations in a relatively small range, thus ensuring a reasonable error in power computation.

Beat me if I understand you!   ???
Electrolytics are cheap and you can go up to 1F at 12V if you want lower the errors and to really prove your point?
You already have at least two ammeters?
I can do the multiplication, if needed?  ;D

(By the way: those wires were not burn at 1A. Not a chance! Maybe at 8-10A is possible as it is possible that you had current nodes along the wires.)

Tx,
Tinu

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2007, 10:35:02 AM »
ppl i have a prob ...cnat post any more

good luck


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
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