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bolt

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #120 on: August 30, 2007, 05:14:43 PM »
one other point i forgot. Need to prove if the conditioning part of the process actually required more raw power than unity. If so Ravi may not get over unity as he spent months conditioning on high current. In otherwords the performance may actually be only a chemical reation to the conditioned tubes that only require the 0.5 amp we see now to trigger the conversion that may not last without reverting back to high current. I do hope this is not the case but needs to be proven. There is little point achieving 500% this week but next week requires a conditioning costing 5% next week.

Gheller J

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #121 on: August 30, 2007, 05:16:07 PM »
Here's two brilliant links I just found as an attachment to a video

Courtesy: Srawofni


pdf of RAVI by srawofni:

http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/301096_fo68p/RAVI_STANLEY_MEYER_REPLICATION_WATER_FUEL_CELL_Updated_30_August_2007.pdf



Another large zip folder @ 10MB  wow!!  by srawofni:

http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/287015_7m73q/RAVI_STANLEY_MEYER_REPLICATION_WATER_FUEL_CELL_AUGUST_2007.zip


Gh. J.

tao

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #122 on: August 30, 2007, 05:24:22 PM »
Below are all the PDFs I hand-made in 2005.

Each PDF is a complete recreation of a different thread that was at ICUBENETWORK when it was active. The PDF's titles are the same as the titles that each of their respective threads had at icubenetwork.

It was the origin of Dave Lawton's release of his replication of Meyer's system. It was also the origin for the radianth2o yahoo group and qiman13 ( http://youtube.com/qiman13 ) who has also been releasing videos just recently along with Ravi's..............

Have a good read guys, this is the GENESIS material to all these Meyer replications!

Enjoy folks!!!

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #123 on: August 30, 2007, 05:59:36 PM »
I've just about completed two tubes, both stainless steel, they will be placed in distilled white vinegar for the next couple of days to degrease and remove any other muck.
I'm in the process of constructing the pulse circuit at the moment.

Really, if there is anything to what Ravi says(and I do believe him) then I should be able to do a comparison test between straight DC and pulsed DC, even without full conditioning if it works as I think, an improvement should be seen.

one other point i forgot. Need to prove if the conditioning part of the process actually required more raw power than unity. If so Ravi may not get over unity as he spent months conditioning on high current. In otherwords the performance may actually be only a chemical reation to the conditioned tubes that only require the 0.5 amp we see now to trigger the conversion that may not last without reverting back to high current. I do hope this is not the case but needs to be proven. There is little point achieving 500% this week but next week requires a conditioning costing 5% next week.

Gheller J

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #124 on: August 30, 2007, 06:02:13 PM »
Where have you been all along Tao??

Youre a god send!

Thanks a ton mate!!

Gh. J.

Gheller J

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #125 on: August 30, 2007, 06:08:36 PM »
Hey from ravis pics i don think you could see any kinda generation before the tubes were conditioned

even D14 says d same thing bud   u dont get it initially :-[

so presumably you might get better gen from strt DC at that point.

just a passin thought ;)

Gh. J.

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #126 on: August 30, 2007, 07:05:33 PM »
Just reading up on it, I noticed your comment about the energy needed to condition the tubes, perhaps solar technology can be used for that process?


Hey from ravis pics i don think you could see any kinda generation before the tubes were conditioned

even D14 says d same thing bud   u dont get it initially :-[

so presumably you might get better gen from strt DC at that point.

just a passin thought ;)

Gh. J.

AhuraMazda

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #127 on: August 30, 2007, 09:21:50 PM »
@runningbare and anyone else continuing with this replication, take a look at

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15173#15173





RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #128 on: August 30, 2007, 09:47:41 PM »
Thanks AhuraMazda, I read it earlier today.




@runningbare and anyone else continuing with this replication, take a look at

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15173#15173







Something has just occured to me regarding the tubes...
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After long enough a thick enough layer of high dielectric oxides build up
Would it be cheaper to use the new nano tube technology now being employed in ultracapacitors for the tubes?

AhuraMazda

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #129 on: August 30, 2007, 10:58:58 PM »
I would stick to SS tubes as not to introduce more un-knowns and once you've got it working you can improve your rig.
By the way, oxygen is very corrosive so, I don't know how long graphite/carbon would last.

AM

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #130 on: August 31, 2007, 02:34:11 AM »
Lets closes the issue on this and get to replications guys time is short, People like Ravi and Dave lawton are heroes, and have paved the way for you all. This is the last we will speak of the issue and get back into the lab!

"I am not being funny but the story said: 9 suits went to raid Ravi's place Now, in India, 9 men wearing black suits would definitely look out of place!" by AhuraMazda

Even in   

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/EngineerinIndia.htm   

there's nothing about any suits mentioned!!

Nor in this link:

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

Where in the world did they get this into it from??? We dont care, back into the LAB.
Our result are coming, also Patrick Kelly is going to publish

how the d14 cell produces COLD CURRENT  electricity stay tuned.
Why do you think they are trying to scare Ravi and Dave? Grow up gentle men
I have instructed Ravi to inform us (Panacea) if any more interferance happens we will pounce on them.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #131 on: August 31, 2007, 03:08:13 AM »
MY GOD, THIS is one big blob of shit, you guy's take something so simple and complicate it so bad, now the forums is filled with stuff just to confuse other people

IF you're a newbie to the wfc replication by dave or ravi please don't think you have to read all that jibber jabber, just anneal your seamless tubes and condition them, you will be on your road to success.

I would like to point out, Conditioning can be done with a battery charger, you can add chokes to the charger after you condition the pipes if you'd like.

There is not yet any proof that The lawton schematic is any better than a battery charger set to a 2 amp setting, and with chokes added will also drop the amps.
("if you have proof, show it")

("However there is PROOF that Properly Conditioning the Tubes is what Gets you the Good hydrogen output") Not the Frequency used.

CONDITION YOUR TUBES,

This is for the people that don't have the lawton circuit, or don't want to fool with one.

When you see the output, if you want to take it further, then build you the lawton schematic if you feel it will get you better gas production, someone needs to confirm that the circuit is better than a battery charger anyhow.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #132 on: August 31, 2007, 03:15:38 AM »
I think the pulse is key in restricting the amps, along with the chokes.  This is truly amazing, it uses NO ELECTROLYTE.  That in itself is amazing!  Conditioning is the key, and following intructions is too.  Get to it! :)

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #133 on: August 31, 2007, 03:25:20 AM »
Picked up a 12 volt automatic battery charger today, got it for 3 pound sterling, started to condition one of my tubes earier on today as a test, I'm getting the same results as Ravi, as in the scum is rising, so looking good so far.


I would like to point out, Conditioning can be done with a battery charger, you can add chokes to the charger after you condition the pipes if you'd like.

There is not yet any proof that The lawton schematic is any better than a battery charger set to a 2 amp setting, and with chokes added will also drop the amps.
("if you have proof, show it")

("However there is PROOF that Properly Conditioning the Tubes is what Gets you the Good hydrogen output") Not the Frequency used.

CONDITION YOUR TUBES,

This is for the people that don't have the lawton circuit, or don't want to fool with one.

When you see the output, if you want to take it further, then build you the lawton schematic if you feel it will get you better gas production, someone needs to confirm that the circuit is better than a battery charger anyhow.

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2007, 04:05:00 AM »
Quote-the D14 report is on something which works well in practice, not on something which might work.The circuit in the first issue of D14.pdf works very well with the cell.  The circuit in the current issue of D14 (http://panaceauniversity.org/D14.pdf) has been altered to give independent Mark/Space adjustment.  There will be a very interesting further update next week.-End quote.

Some of my enginerers (panacea) will be sticking to Ravi and Daves, and will report for the group.