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albert

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acceleration in half built bedini wheel
« on: August 11, 2007, 01:47:54 PM »
hello.
my name is Albert, and I have recently built a replica of the bedini SSG motor, using a 24 inch bike wheel. I built this horizontally and when I glued the magnets to the wheel, I made an observation that might be of interest here:
I had glued about half of the magnets (8 of 16) when I decided to hold up a spare magnet to the wheel: All north poles of the magnets are facing outward on the wheel. Holding a spare magnet to the wheel with the north pole facing the wheel MADE THE WHEEL ACCELERATE.
Angling the magnet 45 degs to the wheel gave it a very strong push.
I later repeated this with more magnets added until I had them on all around. With all magnets in place there was NO effect anymore.
I suppose the south poles on the magnets- the ones facing inward-create a magnetic "short" cancelling out the force. If you look at the MINATO wheel videos, he also has only half the wheel covered with magnets. So the trick might be in using ASYMMETRICAL rotors-they could be balanced with non magnetic counterweights to make them run smoothly. Has anyone tried this?

hartiberlin

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Re: acceleration in half built bedini wheel
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2007, 06:20:09 PM »
Hi Albert,
please  post a video of the effect.
Will it also accelerate,if you fix the one stator magnet
to a stator stand ?
(so your hand movement does not give it a spin...)

Thaelin

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Re: acceleration in half built bedini wheel
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 08:48:10 AM »
   I believe that this is one of the keys to making any kind of this motor. All seems good until you close the loop so to speak. When you do, the effect will disappear. Notice that prendev had three rotors, and I can only surmise that he did not have stator magnets all the way around but maybe 2/3 rds the way. The magnets are also angled and the patent says the best is around 30 degrees.

thaelin

ryanjrx7

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Re: acceleration in half built bedini wheel
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 08:50:14 PM »
I started a post making reference to the flywheel effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel   A bicycle wheel doesn't weigh very much, which means it will not store enough energy from the initial acceleration.  Try gluing some weights to the wheel-maybe lead fishing weights would be the easiest to work with.  I believe the fact that you had some success with magnets on only a portion of the wheel is evidence of my theory-the "magnet free" section was where the energy from acceleration was being stored in the mass.

albert

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Re: acceleration in half built bedini wheel
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 05:33:37 PM »
Hello,
unfortunately I cannot post a video of this effect since the wheel is now my finished Bedini SSG motor. But I will try to make a second wheel in September-October and then I ll try and film it

I will try to post details on the Bedini soon

albert

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Re: acceleration in half built bedini wheel
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2007, 05:05:59 PM »
You do that,your post has got me interesting into doing a half completed bendi wheel now .

May i ask what type of magnets they where and what shape, bar or horseshoe . . .?

thx.