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Author Topic: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL  (Read 31216 times)

Offline saintsnick

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US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« on: July 13, 2007, 12:27:31 AM »
In June of 2007, the fundamental "Methods" patent of Stanley Meyer (US #4,936,961)  expires, finally placing this technology into the public domain in the United States.

BUILD IT. SELL IT.

Not sure if this includes the other patent utilizing Laser energy to FURTHER increase yield.

Replications starting to pop up around the globe !

http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm

Remember:

As LITTLE current flow as possible according to Meyer... less current = less power input

NO ELECTROLYTES, to CUT current and Cut corosion too, distilled water BEST

NO Magical Frequency

-All about water acting as dielectric, PREVENTING current flow.
-High Voltage circuit step charges water cell as giant capacitor
-Voltage SPIKES step voltage upward in water cell.
-Catastrophic VOLTAGE Breakdown of water, NO CURRENT
-HV Chokes further STOP Current
-HV Diode causes unidirectional pulses upon water, alowing charge build up
-Circuit as whole electrically TUNED to resonate: Water Capacitance, HV Choke   
    Inductance, Transformer Inductance. DO THE CALCULATIONS, TUNE YOUR CIRCUIT
-Simple HV Circuits work BETTER than fancy ones... JUST TUNE THE HV SIDE of ckt
-555 / FET / Transformer ckts HAVE worked
-Feedback PLL ckt NOT necessary... only helps maintain stable output

ANY BETTER IDEAS POSTED AFTER THIS is  DISINFORMATION
ANY NEGATIVE REPLIES TO THIS is  DISINFORMATION

READ THE PATENT
Be the NEXT recreation !



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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 06:58:51 AM »
Disinformation, in all caps.  That is what we need.  More disinformation!

How do we know a clever man like Meyers did not protect his real invention by posting a bogus patent to throw the sent off of what he really did, which is simpler and easier to build/replicate?  Or even worse, maybe he had a rather large air pump under the table to milk investors?

I am a simple man, and in my simple mind you do not turn on the lights in the room by unscrewing the bulbs.

You also do not turn up the hydrogen production by switching off/on/off/on the current.  The off cycles do not produce anything except lost time and wasted production.

If the off cycles produce, that sounds to me like a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

I am new to this board and one person here already thinks I am out to get him (lol) so I do not wish to step on toes, however (big however) if the notion of more from less is possible, I want that dream as much as the next guy. 

This is reality:  I feel Meyer was milking investors or playing a trick and we are still seeing the wake of that rather large ship passing by in our calm waters.



Offline hkyle

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 07:18:44 PM »
The on/off on/off in the meyers cell is the step charging efect that increase the voltage in the cap.

First adds 130v then off, add another 130v then off, add another 130v then off, until you surpass the dialectric constant of water.....

I guess I'm dreaming cause I hit 150% faraday current efficient in my old cell. Thats 50% more than the books say. ::)

You are right with one thing....that meyer posted alot of bull in his patents to protect the real thing...that's why it is so hard to replicate. It's all there just toss out the bull and fill in the blanks...

think about it....and read some more. We shall all get there some day.

Disinformation, in all caps.  That is what we need.  More disinformation!

How do we know a clever man like Meyers did not protect his real invention by posting a bogus patent to throw the sent off of what he really did, which is simpler and easier to build/replicate?  Or even worse, maybe he had a rather large air pump under the table to milk investors?

I am a simple man, and in my simple mind you do not turn on the lights in the room by unscrewing the bulbs.

You also do not turn up the hydrogen production by switching off/on/off/on the current.  The off cycles do not produce anything except lost time and wasted production.

If the off cycles produce, that sounds to me like a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

I am new to this board and one person here already thinks I am out to get him (lol) so I do not wish to step on toes, however (big however) if the notion of more from less is possible, I want that dream as much as the next guy. 

This is reality:  I feel Meyer was milking investors or playing a trick and we are still seeing the wake of that rather large ship passing by in our calm waters.



Offline saintsnick

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2007, 05:33:27 AM »
Ya' just couldn't help yourself.  Someone HAD to reply. And you got it wrong still or you fussed it all up on purpose.

Go away Lincoln Log. And take your blinking winkie with you.

Don't try to save this guy hkyle, he's not here to be convinced.

The patent works. The technology is simple. It is EXACTLY as described in the patent.

High voltage DC spikes with NO current flow.

Just for your negative DISINFORMATION comment Lincoln boy, I rebel against YOU and your POSSE.....

Now I share further ......

Here is Meyer himself explaining the Simple of Simple...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRMKrSAAuY

Could he spell it out ANY simpler?

He CLEARLY explains the Atomic / Chemical Physics theory of operation.

the needed circuit is obvious after this. 


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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2007, 12:28:10 PM »
People of this earth,
do you know that water is paramagnetic and transforms magnetic energy (if there is a pure magnetic energy) to an opposed field like pyrolytic graphite?
In an high B gradient it repulses itself from a magnet.
at lower fieldstrength (E dominant if E pure exists) the macroscopic attractioneffect appears, on the nanoscopic scale there are no surfacetensions and surfaceeffects which result out of the number of loads.
Karl

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
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Offline saintsnick

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 11:46:20 PM »
You're another one Carl... Go Away. DISINFORMATION SPECIALIST

If your conversation isn't relevant to what I've stated, than it is Disinformation, even if it is true, because you're changing the topic.

By the way, PEACE BOY, People of the Earth My Ass, YOU are a BULL SH*T ARTIST.  Nothing you mention is true.  You Don't belong on this post.  Go start your own post about the Energy from Loving Humans tranforming Mercury into Overunity Electricity.



REPLICATIONS ARE POPING UP AROUND THE GLOBE...

Remember:

As LITTLE current flow as possible according to Meyer... less current = less power input  (More Gas Out, Less Power In)

NO ELECTROLYTES, to CUT current and Cut corosion too, distilled water BEST

NO Magical Frequency

-All about water acting as dielectric, PREVENTING current flow.
-High Voltage circuit step charges water cell as giant capacitor
-Voltage SPIKES step voltage upward in water cell.
-Catastrophic VOLTAGE Breakdown of water, NO CURRENT
-HV Chokes further STOP Current
-HV Diode causes unidirectional pulses upon water, alowing charge build up
-Circuit as whole electrically TUNED to resonate: Water Capacitance, HV Choke   
    Inductance, Transformer Inductance. DO THE CALCULATIONS, TUNE YOUR CIRCUIT
-Simple HV Circuits work BETTER than fancy ones... JUST TUNE THE HV SIDE of ckt
-555 / FET / Transformer ckts HAVE worked
-Feedback PLL ckt NOT necessary... only helps maintain stable output



Let's see what other BS ARTISTS post some more Disinformation comments.


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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 09:45:30 PM »
Does anyone have this patent in PDF form? I cannot seem to locate it anywhere. Any direction woudl be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :D

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 07:49:15 AM »
Does anyone have this patent in PDF form? I cannot seem to locate it anywhere. Any direction woudl be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :D

Hi,

You can download any USA patent in PDF form at this link: http://www.pat2pdf.org/

The Meyer patent referred to in this topic is 4936961 of course.

Gyula

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 03:25:31 AM »
I'm asking, has any one tried using a Wimshurst to find the frequency. They can be made to pulse at high frequency low amperage. Best one I've ever seen only put out 5 micro-amperes. Or is it impossible to use static electricity? Some one in Australia has a reproduction working according to the video in google. 

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 03:30:02 AM »
I'm asking, has any one tried using a Wimshurst to find the frequency. They can be made to pulse at high frequency low amperage. Best one I've ever seen only put out 5 micro-amperes. Or is it impossible to use static electricity? Some one in Australia has a reproduction working according to the video in google. 

Do you have the video link? I am just about to build a Wimshurst soon, well not exactly a Wimshurst but Bonetti one, it seam to produce a lot of static compared to a Wimshurst

Check this video, this guys produce quite massive spark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05s3zkBPewg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idXys9BkCi8&feature=related

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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2007, 11:11:56 AM »
Be careful here folks

StNick is obviously a Meyer fanatic and extremely gulible if he thinks that simply restating what all of us have already read many times before is going to open any new doors.

There is an arrogance to his post which suggests that he has tunnel vision and a 'holier than thou' attitude that makes him irrefutably right.

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ANY BETTER IDEAS POSTED AFTER THIS is  DISINFORMATION
ANY NEGATIVE REPLIES TO THIS is  DISINFORMATION

What an arsehole.

As far as DISINFORMATION is concerned, due to Meyer's less than adequate understanding of science and electronics, sadly most of the disinformation comes straight from the horses mouth!

Offline saintsnick

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 01:55:54 AM »
Many people HAVN'T read the patent and don't know the basics, but know other tidbits or wrong tidbits instead.

Many people are here to misguide others, by posting complete wrong information or by changing the topic to a whimshurt machine or something like that.

Just keeping it simple. The Headline here only please.  Any other information is simply misleading, even if it is correct.

And, YEAH, I DO have an attitude!

-sNick


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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 09:13:17 AM »
You have to laugh, don't you.

StNick talks about misinformation and then provides the wrong patent number!! If you check out the patent number provided by StNickin the heading, you will find your looking at a bicycle pedal.

The correct patent number has an addition 1 on the end as already mentioned by someone above.

Nothing new though, the same patent (or rather part of) that we've all been looking at for years, complete with the flawed science and gross inaccuracies

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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 08:31:29 AM »
Many people HAVN'T read the patent and don't know the basics, but know other tidbits or wrong tidbits instead.

Many people are here to misguide others, by posting complete wrong information or by changing the topic to a whimshurt machine or something like that.

Just keeping it simple. The Headline here only please.  Any other information is simply misleading, even if it is correct.

And, YEAH, I DO have an attitude!

-sNick


simmer down saint,,, don't fall into farradays trap. you have already 36 post on this forum and fartaday has 86, the difference is your post is 95% respectful and 5% disrespect in probably a kindly way. on the other hand fartaday over there has 87 post and 95% of fartadays post is disrespect where 5% is still disrespect.

don't worry about negative peeps,  it's ok to make typos etc,, but when people point it out it is them that has the chemical imbalance problem, for example, i knew what patent number you meant even though you didn't fully type it in the tittle, not that it bothered me, i knew what point you where trying to make, i work with people that make simple mistakes like that all the time, i even do it.

one time i recall that i mistakened the 4 key for the 3 on another forum and fartaday quickly bashed me "on another forum for it". i simply overlooked it because i know he will never get anywhere as i told him in the past. allthough he cant say i havent got anywhere because i have showed my work, i also have a video comming up just for fartaday.

i would not be worried about negative people, i run several underground groups on several forums that i'm not allowed to speak about, and people like fartaday never gets invitations due to fart breath.

op, hope i hit all the right keys, and hope i didn't mispelll nothing, if i do i always have fartaday to correct me. it's all fun. :) just don't publish your findings but show your work,  and that is punishment enough haha.



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Re: US #4,936,96 Stan Meyers Patent Expired and FREE to ALL
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2007, 10:53:32 AM »
That's you isn't it Hydrocars, I can tell by your total lack of capital letters and poor grammar.

Are you over here to 'spew' some more of your utter nonsense to this forum too?

You're the guy that thoughtlessly preaches Meyer, hanging on every word as if your life depends on it. You're also the guy that stated this on another forum:

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Electricity, the atom.

It is called a lithium atom, it consist of 3 electrons, 3 protons and 4 neutrons.

It's so absurd it's laughable. It worries me that there seems to be a place for this kind of ignorance and moronic statements on these forums... isn't there a tiny tots forum somewhere you can join and so converse with kids of the same mental age?

Your username says it all!

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