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Offline ltseung888

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The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« on: June 30, 2007, 01:54:30 AM »
The theory behind the Bedini Motor - Part 1

The General Theory behind the various Over Unity Inventions.

The greatest roadblock to Over Unity Inventions is the question ? where does the energy come from?  The First Law of Thermodynamics or the Law of Conservation of Energy states that Energy cannot be created or destroyed.  It can only change from one form to another.  This argument has been used by Patent Offices to reject hundreds of Over Unity Inventions.

This roadblock is now removed with scenario of ?boat in calm water and good sunshine?.  If a scientist does not know how to use sunlight, he might ignore it and use the Law of Conservation of Energy on what he believed to be a closed system and advocate the use of muscle energy ? rowing.  But if he knows how to use solar panels, he can use such energy without violating the Law of Conservation of Energy.

We are actually immersed in gravitational energy.  If we know how to use it, we would not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.  The Lee-Tseung patent states that we can Lead Out such energy via oscillation, vibration or rotation with Pulse Force at the suitable time (at resonance).

The same theory can be extended to electron motion energy.  Electron motion energy covers magnetic, electric and electromagnetic.  It is present so long as there are electrons rotating around nuclei.  The field can be many times the gravitational field.  The field can be attraction or repulsion.  It can also be turned on and off.  Many Over Unity Inventors use this particular energy without realizing it.

For details, see
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2482.msg37417.html#msg37417

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2007, 02:08:35 AM »
The theory behind the Bedini Motor ? Part 2

Once we understand that the Bedini Motor does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy, we can go to the next step. 

The Lee-Tseung Patent states that Pulse applied to a rotating system can Lead Out Electron Motion Energy.  The Bedini Motor is essentially a rotating system of magnets under Pulses.  Thus Electron Motion Energy is Lead Out.  Bedini used the Pulsing Coil to do the feedback.  He used the term back EMF.  He could have used the rotating central shaft or a separate feedback coil to extract the energy.  However such mechanisms have their own difficulties and inefficiencies.

Thus there is no mystery in the Bedini Motor.  However, it is unlikely to beat the 225 HP Pulse Motor as shown on youtube.


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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2007, 02:35:10 AM »
The theory behind the Bedini Motor ? Part 3

The factors affecting the Energy Lead Out mechanism are:
1.   Rotational Speed of the wheel
2.   Diameter of the wheel
3.   Number of Pulses per revolution
4.   Strength of the Pulse
5.   Strength of the Magnets or the Magnetic Field
6.   The orientation of the Magnets
7.   The energy extraction mechanism
8.   The energy feedback mechanism
9.   The matching of the above
10.   Other factors

The Bedini Motor may not be using the optimal Pulse strength to move the wheel.  Too much current may have been used in the Pulsing Coils.  The orientation is unlikely to be the best.

However, the fact that it can actually recharge batteries is worthy of praise.  With the Lee-Tseung theory as guideline, the Bedini Motor Developers can improve their devices.  We expect to see improvements.  It would be a challenge to beat the 225 HP Pulse Motor in US or the Liang/Chao Hall Effect IC Cars in China.

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2007, 04:53:15 AM »
The theory behind the Bedini Motor ? Part 4

The Bedini Motor is what we consider as third Generation Cosmic Energy Machines.
In the third Generation ? Leading Out Magnetic or Electromagnetic Energy Machines, we can summarize the implementation into 5 major steps:

1. We may need some initial energy to start the motion or power the electromagnets.  Bedini used batteries.

2. We need a Pulse Force applied at resonance.  The solenoid coil is a very good example.  It can switch the magnetic poles to drive a set of permanent magnets.  Bedini used such a mechanism.

3. We could use a rotating central shaft technique to extract energy or we can rely on the electromagnetic flux changes to extract electricity directly.  Bedini used the recharging of the batteries (or what he called the back EMF) mechanism.

4.The energy feedback mechanism can be via mechanical motion or via electrical circuits.  Bedini used electrical circuits.

5.The Control mechanism to adjust output when the external load fluctuates.  If the output is not reduced when the external load is reduced or dropped to zero, the machine will overheat.  Some machines such as the Wang Shum Ho wheel uses Magnetic Shielding Material to alter the magnetic field.  We can also sense the output load and reduce the feedback to input (thus output) accordingly.  Bedini used capacitors or the depleted batteries to store the extra energy.  Some unused energy is dissipated as heat or electromagnetic radiation.



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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 01:41:55 AM »
The theory behind the Bedini Motor - Part 5

Please note that we are not trying to discredit John Bedini and his supporters.  They have done a great job and definitely deserve a place in scientific history.

We merely want to point out that
(1) The conventional use of the Law of Conservation of Energy does not apply when the immersed electron motion energy is used as in the Bedini Motors.
(2) So long as there are electrons moving around nuclei, there will be electron motion energy exchanges between any object and its surroundings.  The surrounding is effectively the entire universe.
(3) We do not claim to understand this electron motion energy fully yet.  However, we are convinced that such energy does not equal to the energy used to magnetize the electromagnets or the permanent magnets.

We expect there will be similarities when we compare the Bedini Motor with others such as the Joseph Newman Machine, the Minato Wheel,the Pulse Motor etc.

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 11:33:07 PM »
The machines that Bedini has released are pretty much just instructional. There is no major conversion of radiant energy into raw power.
As you are aware, the energy being tapped has much different properties than normal electron current. It is difficult to measure, has a very high impedance and doesn?t follow the laws of electrical energy that we all are familiar with.
Bedini wants people to build his machines and learn all about this energy without hurting themselves. Baby steps are required to learn how to walk. These machines are the baby steps.
I have no doubt that Bedini could build you a generator that would light a city if he wanted to.  It is not a matter of research or engineering either, but rather one of greed and corruption. Standard Oil wants to sell all the oil it controls and consequently forbids any type of ?free? energy in this country. If we could ever loosen the stranglehold the banks and oil companies have on this country, the ?energy crisis? would end immediately.
China will be the first to develop this energy if you don?t allow yourselves to be bought off or intimated. Don?t underestimate the oil thugs though. They have been suppressing these types of machines for almost 100 years now and they are very good at it.


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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2007, 01:14:39 PM »
Political Influence

The belief is that both China and USA have developed the Over Unity and the Flying Saucer Technologies.  The Pulsed Rotational Wheel leads naturally to the anti-gravity effects and thus the development of the Flying Saucer.  The Flying Saucer has such significant military superiority that it will wipe out all existing planes, missiles and space ships.  This might be the reason for suppression of such information.

However, the theory is simple.  Once disclosed, any secondary school science student will be able to understand it.  We hope to share this information and benefit the whole World.

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2007, 09:24:33 PM »
Political Influence

The belief is that both China and USA have developed the Over Unity and the Flying Saucer Technologies.  The Pulsed Rotational Wheel leads naturally to the anti-gravity effects and thus the development of the Flying Saucer.  The Flying Saucer has such significant military superiority that it will wipe out all existing planes, missiles and space ships.  This might be the reason for suppression of such information.

However, the theory is simple.  Once disclosed, any secondary school science student will be able to understand it.  We hope to share this information and benefit the whole World.

I agree. This technology is well within the grasp of anybody who has a basic understanding of physics. My hat is off to you for sharing your discovery!  :)
I have read numerous accounts of people claiming that our military has had this technology for many years. I don't doubt it. The oil cartels and bankers conveniently use "national security" as an excuse to suppress this and other types of alternative energy for their own financial gain. They regularly use the patent office as the enforcement agent for this.
The battle is being fought by guys like you and I who are trying to spread the word about this technology. Our best weapon is the internet and large numbers of people.
Today we have a holiday celebrating our independence from the tyrannical rule of England. I hope to very soon be celebrating our independence from the tyrannical rule of Standard Oil.

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2007, 11:12:51 PM »

I have read numerous accounts of people claiming that our military has had this technology for many years. I don't doubt it. The oil cartels and bankers conveniently use "national security" as an excuse to suppress this and other types of alternative energy for their own financial gain. They regularly use the patent office as the enforcement agent for this.


Thank you for sharing your insight.  The technology could be suppressed because many Inventors habor self interests such as wealth, fame, ego etc.  They fell prey to the temptations.

I have seen and am seeing this happening right in front of my eyes.  Our group is under such temptations.  We were victims to the CIA or the like just a few months ago.  We never learned the lesson.  Or should I say - the temptation was too great.


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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2007, 11:25:50 PM »
Let we quote from the email of Joseph Newman:

THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN

An Invention Whose Time Has Come!

Nikola Tesla once wrote:

"The day when we shall know exactly what electricity is,
 will chronicle an event probably greater than any other
 recorded in the human race."

* IMAGINE a civilization with an access to virtually
 unlimited energy . . .

* IMAGINE an energy source that is abundant, inexpensive,
 and environmentally-friendly . . .

* IMAGINE a stable and durable alternative to oil, gas,
 coal, and nuclear . . .

* IMAGINE an electromagnetic Motor which runs cool and
 harnesses the elemental forces of the universe in
 complete accord with the 1st Law of Thermodynamics . . .

* IMAGINE such a Motor powering the world --- every
 automobile, appliance, home, farm, factory, ship, and
 plane, at a FRACTION of the present cost of energy . . .

* IMAGINE such a Motor enabling us to someday reach the
 stars --- safely and inexpensively . . .

Such a technology now exists.

We have the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory to support the above.  Every secondary school science student upwards will be able to understand the theory.  The World will benefit and change forever.

I am attaching an updated draft press release here.

Lawrence Tseung
Benefiting the World Leads Out abandonment of personal wealth, fame and ego

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 02:53:06 AM »
I am quoting the following from the Steorn forum:

Possible International Cooperation on OU devices and Flying Saucer. The scene is a group of Politicians at an United Nations Event.

Politician A started the conversation. ?I believe you all received multiple emails from Tseung et al. Many of you studied the Lee-Tseung patent information and the hundreds of Tseung posts in the Steorn Forum. A few of you actually went to Beijing and saw the Wang Shum Ho Generator. We would like to discuss possible International Cooperation this time.?

Politician B: ?Initially, we could not believe it. How could the Law of Conservation of Energy be overthrown by two retirees! We got our top academics to give us a written report. They repeated the Wang, the Forever Yuen and the Sun et al experiments. They examined the Nanjing Flying Saucer Video. The report was extremely positive. We are allocating resources to research more.?

Politician C: ?I talked to Tseung. He believed the Chinese Government already set up a company and injected RMB$13 billion as seed money. Wang Shum Ho is one of the nine vice presidents. He, Lee and a number of others will go to Beijing in the coming weeks.?

Politician A: ?I know that. A TV network and a major bank from our side visited Wang and filmed all details. Some top professors from our most respected universities were there. They said that it was not a hoax. We actually reproduced the Wang device in our laboratory except the output is lower. The 225HP Pulse Motor is made in our country.?

Politician B: ?Are we supposed to get a gift from China or the United Nations. That gift is supposed to be a Wang 5KW Generator??

Politician A: ?You may get something even better. You must know the Pulse Motor if you read the Tseung posts. China may be allocating RMB$13 billion on such research. This is a tiny sum compared with what we shall pour in.?

Politician C: ?Will there be International Cooperation on the Flying Saucer as well??

Politician A: ?No Comments.?

Politician B: ?The Forever Yuen article and the Wini Woo et al patent gave such clear theoretical and experimental guidelines that almost any top engineering establishment can reproduce the Magneto Propulsion Unit. The Nanjing video on youtube is very convincing. I am sure Politician A is keeping his mouth shut on Area 51 activities.?

Politician C: ?I can invite Tseung and Lee to give us a talk. I half expect he will fly in on a Flying Saucer.?

Everyone laughed.


Tseung?s technical disclosure Leads Out  possible International Cooperation.

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 09:36:41 AM »
The following is a mock interview with a reporter.  The participants included Lee Cheung Kin, Lawrence Tseung, Wang Shum Ho, Peter Chan, Forever Yuen and Sun Fok Kun.

Reporter: "I have read the theory and seen the demonstrations.  The most impressive and conclusive demonstration to me is the disassembly and reassembly of the Wang device.  The moment it rotated after reassembly, I became a total convert.  I would like to report this importent event for the World."

Forever: "How about my experiments using magnetic pendulums?  They clearly showed that we could change the effective gravitational constant G.  G now could be zero which meant that an object could float in space.  G could also be negative which meant that an object could defy gravity and rise in space."

Reporter: "That was pure mathematics.  I also like your article on Flying Saucers.  However, the average reader wants to see actual machines."

Wang smiled: "It took me over 40 years to produce the machine.  However, I appreciate the help from Lee and Tseung.  Their theory and posts on the Internet helped greatly in the acceptance of my machine in China."

Lee: "Without your machine rotating in front of the Officials on January 15, 2007, you will not be a vice president of a RMB$13 billion Company today.  Do not forget us when the Company goes IPO and you become one of the richest person in the World."

Wang: "This is the reason for this interview.  I want to let the World know that I shall never forget you two.  I have arranged for you two to visit my Company in Beijing; meet the Officials and stay in my 700 square meter villa."

Tseung: "Remember that you must not give a single dollar to me.  You should donate at your discretion to the 'Helping the Seedlings to Innovate Foundation'. I am following the advice of the wise monk - ignore personal wealth, fame, ego etc. and focus on benefiting the World."

Peter: "Tseung is in a privileged position of not worrying about income.  We have mortgages to pay, children to raise and money is important.  We need money to do further research."

Sun: "I totally agree with Peter.  I have spent much of my own resources in the last few months on the Over Unity Research.  I am addicted.  My wife claimed that I murmured OU in my sleep.  We need investment and income."

Reporter: "This will be a great story.  My readers will love to see how you divide the huge wealth.  Tseung has expressed his conviction that he will not get a single dollar for himself.  The others think differently."

Wang: "Lee, Tseung and I made an agreement when we first met.  The understanding at that time was - the sum of RMB100 million for each of us would be sufficient for us.  I am confident that could be met when the Company goes IPO."

Forever: "My goal is very modest.  I just want to have enough money to go through University."

Tseung laughed. "I can help you to fullfill that wish even if the Company does not go IPO.  You are my god grand-daughter and my last student.  Peter and Sun, you are young and are the very few who experimented with this technology at its infancy.  Your names and prototypes are known on the Internet.  Investment will come to you."

Reporter: "I shall include all these with the photo of the rotating Wang device on the actual Press Release.  Are you aware of the Steorn demonstration from July 5 to July 15 in London?"

Tseung smiled. "I participated in their forum for the last few months.  I also used the username Ltseung888.  You can dick up some juicy stories from there.  The most interesting thread on the Steorn.com/forum is "Using the OU devices to Benefit the World."

Lawrence Tseung
Steorn Demonstration Leads Out Reporters Worldwide hunting for OU invention stories.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2007, 01:17:54 PM by ltseung888 »


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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2007, 11:49:11 PM »
Email that I shall reply openly  on this Forum:

Hello, Tseung,

You obviously don?t know me. My name is Hugo Pinto. I could introduce myself as a small Portuguese IT entrepreneur, which I am, but I reach for you mostly as a technologically-oriented curious and enthusiast. And it is obviously about you Wang / Lead-out  presentations that I do so. 

I downloaded your presentations  at the energyfromair site. Needless to say, my enthusiasm about them could only be matched by my own, cautious, skepticism. As a engineering-educated person, I have to test things for myself. Should you main ?Lead Out? assumptions be right, it should be surprisingly simple to achieve a prototypal mechanical engine. Therefore, this main assumption must be testable (and I believe it easily is), and from there on, a commercial applicability study carried out. I was particularly curious about the presentation and photographs of the Wang generator. Do you  have any quality videos of the device working? Any extra information you can disclose?

Now, my questions to you are the obvious ones: what are your main motivations in pursuing and disclosing this information? Have you patented some device based on it (as you cannot patent a physical principle per se)? Do you plan to? My interest in this is obviously due to my interest in replicating and applying your discoveries in further research. I profoundly respect Intellectual Property (as I work and created an IPR company myself), but am also obviously interested in exploring this knowledge in such a way that more that commercial, true social goals can be obtained worldwide.

Should you intentions be honest and good (that is: not a scam?), I wholeheartly thank you for your presentations disclosure and eagerly wait any comments you may have on my questions.

Best Regards,

Hugo Jos? Pinto


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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2007, 12:14:57 AM »
Dear Hugo Pinto,

Welcome to the Overunity forum.  I prefer not to answer private emails individually.  My email accounts have been tempered with - emails got deleted or modified.  People received 'my email' that I never sent.

For additional background information, please read the over 500 posts in the http://www.steorn.com/forum.  Search for username ltseung888 or the thread "Using the OU devices to benefit the World".

Since that forum is now closed to new comers, please use this overunity forum for new comments.  I uploaded WangDev.Zip onto this forum.  It contained two files.  The first one is rotation with the ferro-liquid.  The other is the rotation with ferro-liquid+ permanent magnets.  These two files were recorded when the Chinese Officials assembled and reassembled the Wang device on January 15, 2007.
For details, see:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2675.msg39266.html#msg39266

Have fun.

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Re: The theory behind the Bedini Motor
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2007, 07:01:44 AM »
Conversation with Sun et al

Review Progress and Define Coming Action  Plans.  Participants are Peter Chan, Forever Yuen, Lawrence Tseung and Sun.

Sun started the conversation.  ?We all knew the failed demonstration by Steorn in London.  We want to learn that lesson and never repeat the same mistake again.  What do you think is their problem??

Forever giggled. ?They did not have the right theory  to guide them.  They introduced concepts such as magnetic lag, magnetic viscosity etc.  They still thought that they violated the Law of Conservation of Energy.  They might have accidentally stumbled on a resonance prototype.  When they tried to transfer such a prototype into one with different material, they could no longer achieve resonance.?

Chan: ?This is a very clever speculation.  We would avoid the same problem by having dozens of prototypes to various academic and government institutions before the Public Display.  We planned to provide both theory and experiment.  We intend to sell DIY platform toys.  We would have sent out hundreds of VCDs showing successful operations.?

Tseung: ?Well said.  What are your next moves??

Sun: ?We need a stable funding source.  We need good measuring tools and equipment.  We are working not only on the Minato Wheel but also the Pulse Motor.  The initial success is encouraging but we are still far from our goal of mass producing an over unity platform toy.?

Tseung: ?We helped to promote the Wang device.  Wang demonstrated in front of 5 Chinese Officials on January 15, 2007.  He received funding five months later.  If you can produce a perpetual rotating toy, I believe you will also receive funding within a few months.  If Steorn succeeded, you might just be labeled as one of the thousands of copycats.  Now, it is your chance to shine.?

Chan nodded. ?Money, Money, Money, You are my God.  Please answer my prayers.?

Every one laughed.

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