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Author Topic: Alberto Molina Martinez patent  (Read 39348 times)

syncron

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three phase inverters
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2007, 08:53:32 PM »
Thanks pegasus  :)

By the way: do you know some way to amplify to the range of 100 V p t p the output signal of some electronic oscilator?

Regards

Syncron

Pegasus

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2007, 09:14:07 PM »
Sorry,at this moment,I have no decent idea.....I'm searching the same thing to pilot my future solid state alternator.
If you have some solution please post it.Thank you.

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Pegasus



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Re: three phase inverters
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2007, 11:12:05 AM »
Thanks pegasus  :)

By the way: do you know some way to amplify to the range of 100 V p t p the output signal of some electronic oscilator?

Regards

Syncron

Hi Syncron,

Use a transformer. A 220V-->12V in reverse amplifies the signal 18.33 times.
Make sure it doesn't saturate at the frequencies you want amplified.

/TheDane

syncron

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2007, 02:53:53 PM »
Very clever Thedane! ;D
That can be very cheap and useful.

Thanks

syncron

Pegasus

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2007, 06:32:16 PM »
A friend has sent me the schematic you can see in the pic.An economic way to produce a rotary three-phase system, without a complicate circuit...The pic shows a simple mulitivibrator circuit working with 3 Channel N mosfets.Connecting three light bulbs, or three led, or three coils, on the drain, it is capable to make them to rotate in perfect sequence. The rotation speed depends on the applied voltage , from the type of load, and the inner capacity of the gates. It will be good to perform some simple experiment....
Anyone here has a better idea?

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pegasus
 
 

syncron

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2007, 11:04:21 PM »
Thanks Pegasus! This is very useful.
I'll make use of this since my function generator has not a great power output.
Im specialist in electrical machines, but not in electronics.

But from my speciality I can explain that rotating magnetic fields can be made with n phases, with n from at least 2 until infinity.
Lets see how to make a rotating field with only 2 phases. Actually thats not posible but there is a way to do it: you can make a rotating field with 3 phases spaced 360/3=120 Degrees, or with 4 phases spaced 360/4=90 Degrees, and so on.

Look at the case with 4 phases: put the first at 0 Degrees, the 2nd at 90 Dg, the 3rd at 180 Dg and the 4th at 270 Dg. And now notice that 0 and 180 are inverse! And 90 and 270 also! That mean, you can reduce the number of phases from 4 to 2 conecting the opposite coils in oposite way but to the same phase.

Resulting: with to phases spaced 90 Degrees (and for good perfomance, at least 4 coils) you can create a rotating magnetic field. Look at the picture.

This can be useful if you have a function generator with to outputs you can space 90 decgrees or another electronic circuit which produces two fases 90 Dg spaced. I've such an function generator and will make use of this.

Anyone knows how to make to phases spaced 90 degrees with electronics?

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syncron

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2007, 10:36:44 PM »

syncron

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2007, 09:34:23 AM »
Thanks pegasus!

That's what I looking for.

syncron

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2007, 05:09:10 PM »
Hello to all!

I just finished my esperimets with an air-core version of Alberto Molina Idea: If I have not made mistakes in the measurements there is not free energy. example 90mW input gave 70 mW output at 1 Mhz. Below this frequency output power decreases significantely --> lower perfomance at low frequency (with air core).

So if there is excess energy such as stated in the patent, it will be with an low loses iron core. So next step: repeat the experiment with frequencies under 100 Hz and an iron core.

Greetings

syncron

Pegasus

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2007, 04:09:11 PM »
Can you post some pictures?

syncron

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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2007, 10:59:40 AM »
Hi pegasus,

Here you are the pictures.

As I promised I put here also the patent in pdf format.

In foto 1 you can see the embodiment and behind them my digital osciloscope. In foto 2 you can also see my wave generator.

In "schema.pdf" you see the conection wiring. I made coils of only 8 turns, input and output wire went together as in paint 2. But they should go separately as painted in 3. So I've to repeat the experiment. After that I'll try with changing relative position between input and output coils as shown for example in 4.

If all this not work I'll start with an iron core.

Greetings

syncron

Pegasus

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2007, 03:51:07 PM »
Try to arrange the coils in a toroid shape, to not disperse the magnetic field.

syncron

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2007, 09:54:09 PM »
@pegasus:
The mgnetic flux in the interior of the coil setup (1 mm square and as high as the whole body) will not disperse, and the dispersion out of them is the natural way magnetic field becomes closed.
I thought I'll also try to use this exterior flux with aditional coils.
Can you make a paint of a posible toroidal shape of this setup, please?

Pegasus

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2007, 02:43:47 PM »
Essentially you have to build a S.Mark TPU using the Molina-Martinez principle.....

mkt3920

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Re: Alberto Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2007, 05:33:27 AM »
Nice color pictures of the patent at this website, but I cannot translate the language.  I especially wonder what the last paragraphs on the page say.
http://www.gewo.info/ve/Molina/molina.htm

Kent