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kokomoj0

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2007, 09:05:13 PM »
@kokomoj0
Anyway, welcome to the 'believers- club'! Membership is free. The only other requirement is to free your mind of previously conceived or previously taught orthodox ideas of how things can and must be done!

Peace

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WOAH thar!!!!

Not quite yet am i a believer.   several posts back i requested that they run th eoutput through a DC bridge and filter with smoothing caps to provide a filtered DC output.   Then put a load on it with whatever they feel it can do using the filtered DC output.

Remember meters have rms algorithms and can be fooled by non-sinusodial signals.   i am not saying that it does not work but the only way to really show it is with a filtered output loaded up to show beyond any doubt this in fact is doing everything expected.

So i am almost a believer but not till i see the results of a test as i havc described here.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2007, 09:19:13 PM »
@ Kokomojo and others

I am a NON electronic guy who spent about $18.00 to replicate Otto's work.  It took about 30 minutes to build the collectors and tonight I post some pics.

So my point is this.  Just spend a few bucks, wind the coil and help us out.  Test it, retest it, experiment with it, post it.  You guys have all of this knowledge and experience, so just BUILD IT!  ;)

No excuses, or reasons, just build it, and post.  Pretty simple.. LOL

I do encourage you all in a friendly way!

Cheers,
Bruce


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2007, 09:19:23 PM »
@Jacob,

I have had time only now to read your post.

I've no words: T H A N K

and best luck to the many guys who are now succesfully replicating ECD.

SORRY TO SAY but remember: ECD IS REALLY DANGEROUS...never forget it

Sincerely

Roberto

Anytime Roberto! We're all here for the same reason: we want this to succeed. So it's important that we stick together.

Regards,

Jacob

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Controlling the ECD
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2007, 09:56:28 PM »
EMdevices had posted a video in the pulsers only thread. This may be a way to control the output of the ECD by distore the input frequencies with magnets and coils.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1825.msg34190.html#msg34190

Do you know what i mean?
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 10:29:51 PM by dani1 »


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2007, 10:06:41 PM »
Hi all,

another silly Q and then comment about use of FETs as switches.

Q: in the rig with a single DC powered coil - would this not work with magnets substituted? That would be definitive proof of "no power in".

Suggest a group of 3 or 4 magnets be taped about the coil , same pole to each end (they won't like that).


OK, FET's.

Was involved with switch mode PSU many years ago and we found that using FETs gave massive noise / spikes / RF, whereas using HV silicon trannies as used in EHT circuitry did not.

How much are those spikes needed & part of the system, how much are they an unwanted by-product?

Suggest looking up whatever transistors other then MOSFETs etc are nowadays used in HV generators (TV sets) / switch mode PSU and seeing if there are bipolar silicon ones.

For a circuit like this I don't think you need anything particularly fast, just able to cope with HV spikes.

Bipolars tend to run hotter though.

Steve


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Offline Peterae

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2007, 11:10:53 PM »
The most commonly used tv line output transistor in the UK is
BU2508AF and DF the DF has a diode the transistors are triple diffuse planar silicone, the smps most commonly use fets, there have been TV's in the past that have used thyristor outputs for psu and linetime base these were mainly used by grundig.

Peter

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2007, 11:10:43 PM »
wow! i knew you guys would get it going! i have been lurking around here for months and procrastinating...
amazing work.

im about ready to go down to radio shack..which oscillator schematic should i use for replication?
would tunable self resonating filters work for oscillators?

it is amazing how much information has been suppressed. What other secrets lay not to far beneath the surface of these lies.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2007, 12:07:34 AM »
Hi,

Some open thought queries...

Refering to Otto's posted generator circuit. The mosfet transistors have ALL  Drains connected to the same point - 'ZERO'...

Which implies...

1. Why not use ONE transistor driven by a tripple input (F1,2,3) AND logic gate (+ MOSFET gate driver) ?   

2. The primaries are connected in parallel - One coil pair with 3 x turns should do same job?

What purpose do the secondary coils have as their relatively large inductance is shorted by a thick low inductance wire ('mobius turns!')
- I guess the secondary some how cancels the back emf of the primary?

Regards

Lance   :)

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2007, 12:34:58 AM »
HI All,

I have done some more testing with the mosfet driver ucc37324.
Accidentally connected a diode the wrong way round across the output and BANG!
One split chip.

Replaced with a new one and it made very little difference to the wave shape at the high end 1Mhz, still looks like a mountain range.
BUT if you put a diode in series with the bulb load it does clean up the wave form to almost a square again.

So Jason,Otto, Roberto, try a diode in series with your control coils (MOSFET Drain to coil). This may stop the back emf upsetting your supply.

I will post some scope shots and diagrams on Friday.
More test to do.

Regards
Rob
 

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2007, 02:15:16 AM »
@ Kokomojo and others

I am a NON electronic guy who spent about $18.00 to replicate Otto's work.  It took about 30 minutes to build the collectors and tonight I post some pics.

So my point is this.  Just spend a few bucks, wind the coil and help us out.  Test it, retest it, experiment with it, post it.  You guys have all of this knowledge and experience, so just BUILD IT!  ;)

No excuses, or reasons, just build it, and post.  Pretty simple.. LOL

I do encourage you all in a friendly way!

Cheers,
Bruce

Bruce,

Good one! you sound like me  ha!



I sometimes feel that people should either build it or be silent..the results will speak for themselves...but when will the doubters,who have never created anything, stop speaking?

The onus is on you to build it...Thats it 

If this was all fantasy...what a wonderful one....however what if it isint and never was ....what have you got to lose ...nobody ever wanted your money. That my friends is what many people cannot comprehend and that is quite sad. let's hope that we are really ready for this.  Mankind that is..

Hey Kind man...Man kind...see it?

Believe it ...do it...Its still early days

Dont sit in your corner and spruke your doubts ..it is old and boring now.

Bring something to this! You will feel better!
A few kind men have shown some keys to a gate..
The doubters should start a doubtfest on another thread!

love ya all

Lindsay Mannix

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kokomoj0

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2007, 02:24:24 AM »
@ Kokomojo and others

I am a NON electronic guy who spent about $18.00 to replicate Otto's work.  It took about 30 minutes to build the collectors and tonight I post some pics.

So my point is this.  Just spend a few bucks, wind the coil and help us out.  Test it, retest it, experiment with it, post it.  You guys have all of this knowledge and experience, so just BUILD IT!  ;)

No excuses, or reasons, just build it, and post.  Pretty simple.. LOL

I do encourage you all in a friendly way!

Cheers,
Bruce


Haha!

Nah not me, you are right 18 bucks and i would be off and putzing hours and months and centuries.  Nope not me.  It would be different if i were not so skeptical.   That and i did just build it but on a project i can go into with a great level of faith.  i am working on the hydrogem projects because i have confidence they will provide the expected outcome.

Like i said i will get excited on this once we know the watts in versus the watts out using an unquestionably true rms measurement of the input and the output via recified filtered output and the input.

THEN i will get excited!

Until then i am in a holding wait and see pattern.   i assure you i will build one within 1 day of proving it out with the data i requested.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2007, 02:27:07 AM »
   Just made a trip to Norvak again. Same issues, no parts. Have to go with what was close in the book. Transistors are 500v  20v gate   14amp. No gate drivers at all. None of them had a clue at to what they were and they work there?. Will have to order them via net. Thinking of using a cmos schmidt trigger with a 15v rail voltage. By toneing down the signal input it should switch ok for the moment, at least until the drives get here.
   Other than that should have everything to get going tonite for a small test. Ahh yes and a roll of alum screen for the cage.

   Will be batt powered and read with analog meters on both sides.

sugra


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2007, 02:43:51 AM »
Lindsay and all,

If it is wrong to question and doubt, then it is also wrong to blindly accept something as true.

Have you made the device and done the measurements? Are you 100% confident they are flawless? Have you simply accepted what someone told you as the truth, when there is little evidence to support that claim?

Perhaps you should ask yourselves this...would you bet your house on it? If not, then think again.

Darren


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2007, 02:46:47 AM »
@ Kokomojo and others

I am a NON electronic guy who spent about $18.00 to replicate Otto's work.  It took about 30 minutes to build the collectors and tonight I post some pics.

So my point is this.  Just spend a few bucks, wind the coil and help us out.  Test it, retest it, experiment with it, post it.  You guys have all of this knowledge and experience, so just BUILD IT!  ;)

No excuses, or reasons, just build it, and post.  Pretty simple.. LOL

I do encourage you all in a friendly way!

Cheers,
Bruce

Bruce,

Good one! you sound like me  ha!



I sometimes feel that people should either build it or be silent..the results will speak for themselves...but when will the doubters,who have never created anything, stop speaking?

The onus is on you to build it...Thats it 

If this was all fantasy...what a wonderful one....however what if it isint and never was ....what have you got to lose ...nobody ever wanted your money. That my friends is what many people cannot comprehend and that is quite sad. let's hope that we are really ready for this.  Mankind that is..

Hey Kind man...Man kind...see it?

Believe it ...do it...Its still early days

Dont sit in your corner and spruke your doubts ..it is old and boring now.

Bring something to this! You will feel better!
A few kind men have shown some keys to a gate..
The doubters should start a doubtfest on another thread!

love ya all

Lindsay Mannix

Hey lets be fair about this.   

Would you accept a car without kicking the tires first?   How many of these things have turned out to be either incorrect measurements or out right fraud?   You want me and others to believe just because you do?  What bank is going ot give you a loan because you waltz in and announce you can pay them back?  Its never going to happen till they do a credit check and make sure you are employed.

If you feel that asking for a simple 5 minute to setup rms test is asking for to much then how do you expect any credible engineer to believe you?

You make a lot of assumptions since i assure you that many out here have "built" several projects.

I neither believe nor do i disbelieve.

All i am asking for is some good input output data to chew on and you want to demonize the process with hyperbole.  i think that is simply the wrong approach and frankly failure to provide such simple data speaks volumes to any engineer out here.  unfortunately not positive volumes.



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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2007, 02:58:43 AM »
Hey guys, no one is saying to believe anything.  We are saying,
"BUILD IT YOURSELF and answer your own questions!"

This is less than a week old!  We will experiment and tweak and enjoy.  SO CHILL, and build.  If you do not want to build, then wait patiently for your answers when someone gets to answering it.  Relax...sip a cool one....and be patient.  If patience is not for you, then build your own.  Even I can do it!  ;)  LOL

I for one am thinking about how not to get fryed, not too worried about your question at the moment!   ;D

Cheers,
Bruce

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