Cookies-law

Cookies help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
http://www.overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please leave this website now. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 495084
  • *Total Topics: 14569
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 4
  • *Guests: 200
  • *Total: 204

Facebook

Author Topic: Newman machine replica  (Read 91264 times)

Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2007, 10:57:34 PM »
Hi Dingus,
your input current would probably look like this
on a scope:

(http://overunity.com/newman2/myspike1.jpg)
(http://overunity.com/newman2/myspike2.jpg)
(http://overunity.com/newman2/myspike3.jpg)

Can you confirm this ?

Now try to put a 2 to 5 Watts incandescant bulb instead of the
10 Ohm shunt there:

(http://overunity.com/newman2/newman1.gif)
and don?t ground anything and don?t put any meters in there.
Just the motor, the battery and the incandescant bulb.

You will be able to light up the bulb by these RF bursts,
if you can break the circuit fast enough.

Regards, Stefan.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2007, 10:57:34 PM »

Offline Dingus Mungus

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 861
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2007, 12:24:58 AM »
I don't have a osciliscope right now...

When I moved back here to arizona I did so with only the clothes on my back and a few bucks. I'll buy a new scope asap though. I can confirm BEFM pulses coming from my replication. Both my power supply, and meters go wacky displaying impossible voltages. Now on the digital meters its obviously bugging out from the high frequencies, but the power supply was definitely getting feedback spikes when I tested with it. I also tryed to use a bulb to detect any RF, but I can't get it to flicker yet. Now I've been running on a 12v battery for a few days on and off. Nothing conclusive so far though. I'll report any new findings when I can.

~Dingus

Offline seekingknowledge

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 77
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2007, 12:24:46 PM »
Hartiberlin im going to be getting my copper wire out of some old car alternators assuming that the copper from one alternator may not be enough , if the copper from one alternator isnt enuf am i able to join the copper from another by tying a a little knot in them? or is there some other way of joining them? or does the coil have to made up of the one lot of copper?

Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2007, 03:33:59 PM »
@seekingknowledge

yes,you can just solder the splicing points together and wound around it some
plastic tape.
You can also use this splicing point to add there some "tap wire", so you
lead this point outside the coil and can connect some external capacitor there,
which will help the coil store more capacitive charges, which is what we need.

The "stray" capacitance of the coil is the thing which will increase with more wire
and is one secret to get more output from the back current spike into the batteries
back.

Regards, Stefan.

Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2007, 03:50:25 PM »
Here at this Lutec video you can see at minute
0:53 to 0:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my9FO69Vs74
the backspike on the scope ( here into positive direction...

they should have inverted the scope ?s input channel)
and the spark at the commutator that is producing this backspike.

So the Lutec technology is basically the same as the Newman technology based
of:
The direct electrical conversion of burning ( oxidation) a carbon brush into
electrical energy.

The Lutec people also only get it to work with mechanical switching,
as with electronic switching there is no sparking and thus no oxidation
and thus no additional energy into the circuit !

Regards, Stefan.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2007, 03:50:25 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2007, 03:59:13 PM »
P.S: On this scope view you can not see the input current as the amps/ div
setting is just too big.
You just see only the big back current spike, when the commutator is
switching.
As Lutec uses much iron in their design, the back spike looks much like
a (sine)^2 pulse, so there are no RF bursts with it as in the Newman
devices.
The bigger older Newman devices with hundreds pounds of copper
wire  also had much more DC current components
superimposed on the RF bursts, so that depends on the inductance
and the stray capacitance of the coil.

Offline Paul-R

  • without_ads
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1760
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2007, 04:03:31 PM »
Hartiberlin im going to be getting my copper wire out of some old car alternators assuming that the copper from one alternator may not be enough
Its hard work but:
if you are looking for enamelled copper wire, find an
old dumped and scrapped microwave oven. Open it up,
and remove the big transformer near the "mains in". With an
angle grinder, cut through the steel laminated core, and with
difficulty, you will be able to carefully wriggle out three coils,
two with thinner wire, and one with thicker wire. You may need
to use water to soak off some stiff paper.

As you uncoil the wire (slowly and carefully, you may crack the
enamel insulating coating. You may need to paint a bit more on.

(Don't forget the nice ceramic magnets in the magnetron unit which
comes off the cooking chamber)

Paul.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2007, 04:03:31 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #82 on: June 22, 2007, 07:31:26 PM »
Hi MRAMOS,
try to use better around 100 nF foil capacitors, which go to over
1000 Volts or just try the AC caps, but only try it behind
a safety wall, so if the electrolyte cap blows up you will
not get hit...
These voltage and current spikes from the coil can really
blow up electrolyte caps, so better use high voltage foil caps.

A capacitance of around 100 nF to 1 uF is enough.
If you have one tap inside the coil just connect the cap from the
tap to one end.
Try to which one  end is better.
Be sure to not use DC electrolyte caps if you use electrolyte caps at all!
10 uF might still be too big and if you have several of these better
put 2 or 4 in series, so it goes more into the direction 1 uF.
Too big capacitance could drain the battery too fast as it has to
provide the energy to charge the cap upin the first place.

Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #83 on: June 22, 2007, 09:18:14 PM »
Hmm,
what shunt did you use to take the input current scope shot ?
Is the scope grounded ?
Please remove the grounding.
What is your DC coil resistance in Ohm ?
Probably you have much to low resistance and too few coil wire.
Also the spark should be to see much bigger on the scope,so you have
very few energy stored in your coil somehow...

Is this now with Tungsten and graphite at the commutator ?

Offline TheOne

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 985
    • Amanatsu Games
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #84 on: June 22, 2007, 09:21:29 PM »
nice replica also nice toe! :)

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #84 on: June 22, 2007, 09:21:29 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2007, 10:29:22 PM »
MRAMOS,
steel on steel as the commtator is not good.

Try to use a graphite pencil or a graphite rod from
an old used zinc-carbon battery as one contact and put this
versus the steel.
Or glue a copper foil or alufoil onto the shaft and use this
versus the graphite pencil (graphite rod) contact.

You need the right dissimular metal contact points to get more spark RF power.

Offline CLaNZeR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1059
    • Overunity.org.uk
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2007, 10:56:42 PM »
The comm is steal on steal.

I guess I need to re-wind the coil.  Was waiting on Clanzer to get home for the weekend and see he results before I added more wire.


Got home this end!! about 30 minutes ago, Flight back home was delayed grrrrrrrrrr

It now 21:53 Friday evening in UK and too knackered to go finish the motor off, but will be straight on it tomorrow Afternoon :)

Got some new bearings arrive and some 6mm Steel and Brass Rods also !

Gonna catch up on posts now and do a couple of glasses of wine hehe

Mike I will also catch up on emails this weekend, this week was very manic :(

But your Rig is looking good mate and as TheOne said, nice Toe  :o

Cheers

Sean.

Offline CLaNZeR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1059
    • Overunity.org.uk
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #87 on: June 22, 2007, 10:57:42 PM »
MRAMOS,
steel on steel as the commtator is not good.

Try to use a graphite pencil or a graphite rod from
an old used zinc-carbon battery as one contact and put this
versus the steel.
Or glue a copper foil or alufoil onto the shaft and use this
versus the graphite pencil (graphite rod) contact.

You need the right dissimular metal contact points to get more spark RF power.

Are normal motor brushes any good placed with a gap obviiously to get the Arc? what are they made of ?

Offline Dingus Mungus

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 861
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2007, 12:33:05 AM »
@Mramos
Great replication! Thansk for helping out with the scope shots. no BEMF though...
I noticed you're using heavy 18 awg wire. How many feet of wire is in your coil?

@Clanzer
How long did your stepper motor winding robot take to make your coil?
Are you still planning to wind a denser coil? I'll trade you fresh spools for coils...
 ;D

~Dingus

Offline hartiberlin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7781
    • free energy research OverUnity.com
Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2007, 12:44:00 AM »


Are normal motor brushes any good placed with a gap obviiously to get the Arc? what are they made of ?


Yes,these are also made out of high durable conductive graphite.
Use them and make a fine tip out of them so they just barely
contact the copper commutator plates and have a gap in the commutator
plates, so they make only contact not all the time, but in sparking pulses.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Newman machine replica
« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2007, 12:44:00 AM »

 

Share this topic to your favourite Social and Bookmark site

Please SHARE this topic at:


OneLink