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Author Topic: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery  (Read 74101 times)

theb3e

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2007, 07:41:31 AM »


PS: Have you seen the vids of the newman motor that runs after the power source has been removed? If you would like the link, let me know.. but I'm sure you guys have already seen it.. pretty cool if you ask me!





No mate havnt seen it please do post the link and nice machine.


Thanks! It is just a mess around unit before I start winding big coils and wasting materials..

Yeah, I think this guy had the idea back in 1998 he rigged up a power supply with some diodes, high frequency choke coils, a couple of 160uF caps and was able to get his motor to run for 5 min with the power supply unplugged.. "closing the loop" his name is JL Naudin (JLN Labs) He has a video that shows him disconnecting the power supply and the thing keeps going!
Here is a link to his site, there is tons of good info there with wiring diagrams and screen shots of his scope, diagrams.. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nwjlself.htm

NerzhDishual

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2007, 06:49:06 PM »
Hi Theb3e,

Welcome to the club.
Nice and successful motor, IMHO.
Could you tell us more: the diameter of the coil wire and the passive resistance (ohms) of the said coil?

Best

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #107 on: November 11, 2007, 01:32:11 AM »
Hi theb3e,
very nice built !

To charge up the cap you must put a graetz rectifier bridge across the
coil ( in parallel with thecoil ) and then going into the cap
from the plus andminus output of the rectifier bridge.

This way it will charge up the cap when the commutator switches off.

Then the  Back EMF will charge up the cap via the high voltage radio frequency
bursts of the sparking...

This will really charge up the cap very fast.

Good luck.

Regards, Stefan.

theb3e

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #108 on: November 12, 2007, 09:51:40 AM »
Thanks for the positive feedback guys, Thanks for the tip about rectifiers & caps, gives me something to try next. I told myself if I can make it work with stuff thats laying around the house, then it might be worth throwing money into. This "No Frills Motor was inspired by chuck2na off of YouTube, I mean..if you can make a motor out of a flower pot, lol anything is possible  :)

Last night I thought I would try and capture some of the unused potential of the spinning rotor and added a small
generator circuit to the end of the little newman motor. It's in now way connected to the newman coil and is really a separate unit with it's
own output. The coils are wired in a counter-clockwise to clockwise configuration. It generates enough juice to power an LED but you can clearly see the inefficiencies in this design -ha.ha, the  CD is wobbling like crazy from the weight of the neo magnets and not being centered/balanced properly.. but it still works and the 9V still pumping the unbalanced load for long periods of time.. pretty interesting, this Newman motor now has 1 input power source and 2 output power sources both with different output voltages.
Does anyone here know of a Newman Motor Builders forum? I would like to take this somewhere apporopriate, my intention was not to hijack this thread..

Here is a vid showig the small generator I just added..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx0rCLUe1lg

linda933

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #109 on: November 12, 2007, 10:53:47 AM »
@theb3e

With not one single post since June 28 before yours, I'd say you revived this thread from certain death, rather than hijacking it!

@Stefan

Thread title promises "positive proof".  I read every post so far.  I guess I missed the positive proof.  Is it when the video guy tells us so?  Is that the proof positive?  I didn't see any meters or scopes there.  Did you intend to imply that it was charging the battery faster than discharging it so that it would logically run forever while supplying motion and excess electric energy? 

Seriously, maybe I'm blind and stupid...I don't see the proof of that anywhere here.  Could you point it out please?  I'm thinking of building one for my class project and I need to know what exactly you consider to be the positive proof here.  Thanks!

Linda

theb3e

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #110 on: November 12, 2007, 03:34:30 PM »
Linda, you are right about the original video at the beginning of this thread as Not showing "positive proof". I'm not convinced it shows us anything at all, other than a guy that made a motor and stuck a fan blade on the end of it and is powered by a 12V car battery.
I myself am not convinced that you can recharge a battery with the back emf that is produced in it's unmodified state. I have noticed that when you try and charge a battery or capacitor with this pulsed signal, the battery or cap seems to take on the same characteristics. After a few hours of charging a small 6V cordless phone battery and taking some measurements, it reads the same as the voltage you are putting into it.. and it fluctuates up and down (pulsed) just like the charge you sent it.. I am pretty sure this is not good for the battery and I believe Joseph Newman even said in his early video's that batteries become damaged, not from putting such a big load on them, but rather the "back spike" is overcharging them. He sent some batteries into Rayovac I believe, and they confirmed the batteries were being over charged or charged too quickly. Mr. Newman stated Rayovac is working with him to develop a battery that will take this kind of "recharge"
So what can be done to modify the signal? So the question for me still is, can these pulses of high voltage be gathered, converted and used to recharge a battery effectively before the main power source runs out of juice?

Either way, I have noticed a few peculiar things that have intrigued me, so I will be taking this project to the next level (bigger machine). I am not the kind of guy that dismisses everything as a hoax, without doing my homework first.. so off I go!  ;D

 


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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #111 on: November 12, 2007, 04:09:32 PM »
Go for it, dude...you got the right attitude!  Plenty of enthusiasm tempered with a good dose of common sense and a bit of skepticism.  You are likely to proceed without deluding yourself!  Hurrah!

I'm sure your progress reports will be very welcome and useful...keep it up!

Linda

theb3e

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2007, 06:22:33 AM »
Hey Stefan..

Thanks for the tips on the rectifier circuit. I built one this evening and hooked it up to the newman motor. I used a 9V battery to power the Newman Machine which is now also spinning an extra rotor with magnets on it as a generator (not hooked up for this test) and I also put a diode inline with the positive + from the 9v battery to the coil. After the rectifier circuit I added a cap and from the cap to my volt meter, which I am happy to say now reads in DC voltage.. I was surprised to see 9v DC going into the newman motor and then rectified AC to 12v DC coming out!
I would imagine if I hook up the little generator thats built onto the side of my newman motor and rectify that signal then combine the two dc output voltages to get? .. something to try tomorrow night, pretty interesting stuff so far. If it all ends up not working, at least I have learned a little bit about electronics again..

Thanks for those tips Stefan... thanks for the Hurrah Linda..

cheers guys..

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Re: New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery
« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2012, 04:28:10 AM »
Hi guys! I am new here and also new researcher of the free energy..  8) As I noticed in this topic you all telling that this device work which is a little weird because in the Keith Tutt's book "The Madman, the Thief and Their Lightbulb" Joseph Newman and his machine is in the chapter of charlatans and cheaters, described like crazy man..  ??? ???

Just want to know what is the truth, do this device really work or not. If work is anyone use this device for powering his home, car, etc. Anything?

I am sorry of my English and hope you will understand me.  :-[ Just want something what is going to push me forward in this chase. Thanks!