agreed, for the most part. I've seen lots of corruption, but do not ahve specific experience in the given office. I'm simply paranoid via results in life. Breeds prudence, etc. As for the patent thing, I'm submitting a patent in a few days (nothing to do with stuff on this board) and am going to manufacturing and sales immediately. Wether the patent is accepted, issued or not, the product will still be sold. I did not want to submit a patent, but I was forced into it by three friends and business partners. They made me do it! :p

Good luck with your application.  One thing I wanted to add was that while I don't usually believe in widespread corruption, I certainly think the USPTO could use an overhaul to their system.  To do a patent application "right" you usually have to spend lots of $$ on a good lawyer.  And, even if you are fortunate enough to get granted a patent, its still not in any way a guarantee that you'll be able to enforce it to protect your invention.  Protecting your invention means spending more legal $$ to go after those you think infringe. 

So you can see, it can be expensive for an individual inventor to go through the whole process.  But, in many cases, you really just want to have the IP patent pending or patented just to add value (real or perceived) to your business. 

One cool thing about going through an application is that it forces you to think about all kinds of various potential uses for your invention, which could lead to some unexpected ideas.  At least in that respect I get a little enjoyment out of it.  Otherwise, its just lots of words and diagrams to write!

I would say that process isn't for everyone.  But I'm also a guy who can appreciate both open source and IP, so most would probably think I'm crazy anyway.   


Regards,
jeffc

interesting, to say the least.

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Did you guys take a peek at their website?

PM motors and anything else....all plans under $50........

Right, PLANS is the key word...


Yet, the gravity plans and accompanying story certainly seem to match what Bob is showing on his website.

Pictures are more than enough. The whole thing is right there. Patent law specifically permits single design examples are legal for the given individual to build and to study.

G'day all,

This is his latest design with video to follow it says elsewhere.

http://www.newsourceofenergy.com/how%20it%20works.html

Doesn't give much away, does it?

Hans von Lieven

Once again. I live less than 2 hours away from Bob. I can go check in on him.

Hi,
yes, please try to visit Bob and take a video camera with you and
make some video for us .

I will send you privately  his phone number, so you can
make an apointment with him.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

Here is an update from Bob?s page:
http://www.newsourceofenergy.com./update.html

"Now that the patent has been filed, I am installing one at my house and will be self sufficient . Soon I will have it

running around the first week of November. This one will deliver over 2000 foot lbs of torque at 50 rpm.
After that maybe all the disbelief will be gone. (Aproximently 20 horse power with high torque and very low rpm.)
My goal is to engineer one around 40 horse power. Watch the papers or check back to the web site for updates.
 

The machines in the videos are of coarse only prototypes that have been used over and over to prefect
the units on a smaller scale. Many unforeseen problems have been solved, and now with confidence I can move to
the finished product. The machines will be aproximently the same size, but built much stronger."