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Author Topic: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2  (Read 1105292 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2205 on: January 05, 2018, 10:29:00 AM »

Think about what Bruce is trying to teach you.
None of you are in a position to argue with him....

I would prefer to see Bruce demonstrate his setup on video before deciding to clear a space on my cluttered bench to replicate this.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2206 on: January 05, 2018, 12:47:42 PM »
Maybe that's a better starting point.  :-\ However, my compass needle does not move / kick.


Wire is not long enough
The equation is primarily governed by change in voltage
over time.


The needle moving is based on it mass, and the viscosity of the fluid
(the oil/water in the compass device, or air with a needle)
Which results in a time it take for it to reorientate.


With constant current flowing, you have plenty of time.
And deflection is consistent along most of the wire (peaks at center)
And is proportional to the power.


With a change in voltage, deflection is directly proportional to the
change in potential. This is most prominent at the center of a long wire.
the time involved is dependent upon the length of wire.


[not to be confusing but the earth field is also factored in the equations
 for both situations, ideally the wire would run n-s in experiments, giving
a 45-degree deflection at the point when both fields are of equal magnitude]


The point of this, is that open circuits have a capacitance value.
but unlike a pure capacitor, a circuit may contain inductive properties
that affect the “charging current”.


But current doesn’t flow from the SOUrCE!
Where does it come from?
Is the battery charging inductively?
Is the charge creating its own current?


You can be shown things and you can refute them, based on your previous
knowledge, and this can go on for decades.
Or - you could experiment yourself and learn from people trying to share
what they have learned.


If you just want to see “videos of Bruce” doing what he is talking about
You only need to read the 20,000 tpu threads here where he already tried that.
If it had gone the way you are suggesting, people would be following in his
footsteps. Instead of crawling around in circles why he tries to baby step them.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2207 on: January 05, 2018, 12:51:39 PM »
Or just go watch the SM videos and do what HE tells you.
He didn’t hide anything, he tells us exactly how it works
And how to build it.




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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2208 on: January 05, 2018, 02:39:39 PM »
If you actually listened to SM, you would see that he and Tesla
said the same thing.


Tesla was able to do this with much less complicated devices.
Using a different source.


I’ll give you mine, for you to experiment with the phenomena
So you can free yourself of your religion and see the truth
That both Tesla and SM were correct.


Here it is:   A radio-farm
Thousands of tiny crystal radio receivers , tuned to the “noise” slightly above
our normal FM radio spectrum.
This will collect energy indefinitely, scalable to any size desired.




Offline Theoretical Research

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2209 on: January 05, 2018, 05:27:57 PM »
Or just go watch the SM videos and do what HE tells you.
He didn’t hide anything, he tells us exactly how it works
And how to build it.

These inventors are not providing sufficient details such as part numbers.

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« Reply #2209 on: January 05, 2018, 05:27:57 PM »
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2210 on: January 06, 2018, 06:18:30 AM »
These inventors are not providing sufficient details such as part numbers.


Bwahahaha! I HOPE that was sarcasm... Lol


People want part numbers, circuit, pre-built, UL approved, no work involved, plug and play.


Lazy spirit everywhere... Sigh


@Hoppy
I'll SEE what OLD VIDEO I can find.  I ALWAYS make videos of my work for my guys who have been supporting my work for years now... Fyi.. Lol


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2211 on: January 06, 2018, 09:49:02 AM »
Bruce
quote

Lazy spirit everywhere... Sigh
end quote

your throw stones a bit to easily

there are some amazing fellows here who work tirelessly for years and years to find a better path for the world, no book sales or funding or interest in anything but "doing the right thing"

open source

would seem a device which could change the world ...would save lives...[who would be accountable for those lost already ??]

would seem a life is not so valuable in this thread ...just Christmas crumbs instead ??

lots of "BruHaha" and "Lol's" in a forum dedicated to humanity and its future ......

not discussing baking recipes , politics ,.. football strategies etc etc in this forum...

Brutal honesty
you have something which could save a life [just one]
and you play games ??

that's on you Bro

there are plenty here who would work tirelessly to see it gets where it needs to be .

and not for faster cars or bigger Tv's... etc etc ...

there are some amazing fellows here indeed !!

I suppose this will get removed too [and I'm good with that....

ChetKremens@gmail.com

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2212 on: January 06, 2018, 11:04:24 AM »

@Hoppy
I'll SEE what OLD VIDEO I can find.  I ALWAYS make videos of my work for my guys who have been supporting my work for years now... Fyi.. Lol


Cheers,

Bruce

Appreciate that Bruce.

I'm not the easiest of guys to convince, given my conventional learning in electrics / electronics. A good and honest demo is the best way to explain a principle and encourage others to replicate. As has been pointed out already, its also important to include full component spec and most importantly physical build and layout details to enable a good shot at replication. I mostly reject any claim not backed-up in this way because inavariably a lot of time, effort and money are expended, resulting in a build based on too much guesswork and inavariably resulting in failure to validate the claim. Its up to the claimant to help himself if he genuinely wishes others to follow his research. With respect, statements like "trust me  there is no current" and guffawing at the end of sentences, really do not help you to recruit followers.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2213 on: January 06, 2018, 03:14:26 PM »
Bruce
quote

Lazy spirit everywhere... Sigh
end quote

your throw stones a bit to easily

there are some amazing fellows here who work tirelessly for years and years to find a better path for the world, no book sales or funding or interest in anything but "doing the right thing"

open source

would seem a device which could change the world ...would save lives...[who would be accountable for those lost already ??]

would seem a life is not so valuable in this thread ...just Christmas crumbs instead ??

lots of "BruHaha" and "Lol's" in a forum dedicated to humanity and its future ......

not discussing baking recipes , politics ,.. football strategies etc etc in this forum...

Brutal honesty
you have something which could save a life [just one]
and you play games ??

that's on you Bro

there are plenty here who would work tirelessly to see it gets where it needs to be .

and not for faster cars or bigger Tv's... etc etc ...

there are some amazing fellows here indeed !!

I suppose this will get removed too [and I'm good with that....

ChetKremens@gmail.com


Chet,


I appreciate your spirit!
But where are these fellows who would "work tirelessly"?
Please point me to the thread with their tireless experiments posted for all to see..


Nothing is "on me".  I have a group of men I have been walking this journey with.  Some with more electronics experience then any in this board.


They will bring this to the planet when we get to that point.


@TK
Building any more fraudulent magnet motors lately that we spent hundreds of dollars replicating?


And TPUs coming soon! Everyday a step closer.


@Hoppy
I'm NOT "looking for followers".  If you or anyone else thinks that I'm sorry for coming across that way.  I actually gave this to help you guys out.


Trained electronics guys are awesome but have zero chance of figuring out the TPU.  It requires left brained thinking".  Just the way it is.


And I already gave you guys all of the exact part numbers.  The length of wire and type is not critical.  It works no matter what then you can tweak it to make more power.  More than one way to make power with the electrons loose from the wire.


But you guys don't even believe me about the magnetic field, the other ways would have your eyes rolling back in your head.


Bless you guys and see you next Christmas. 


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2214 on: January 06, 2018, 03:47:18 PM »
Bruce
you see what you chose.... to  justify your position.

just a few minutes of searching here would show plenty of fellows doing the right thing for the right reasons
and sharing their work for all to see

as I type this there's a fellow in the UK freezing in his shop to machine a part for his Electret work here
and another at his bench winding Coils till his fingers are sore and working tirelessly in the Netherlands

to name a few....

  Utron work and HHOP ,Graphine and carbon battery experiments it goes on and on... all manner of things here.

the Tariel thread's goes on and on...

there are plenty here and you know it....

it is actually a bit more than casually disrespectful to deny this...

and yes the resources here are quite limited...both time and finance

but all is open source

to note

 it would not take much to get them off the other work and onto a true anomaly...
regardless which side of the brain they use.

see you next year ??
glad you have so much time to PLAY...you walk away from an army of open sourced men with a wave of the hand and "blessings"
??

memo to Turbo
you have some info to help here ?
Karma ??


respectfully
Chet

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2215 on: January 06, 2018, 04:24:14 PM »
Awesome Chet!


No disrespect meant to any of those working hard.


Best success to all of them and to you in your endeavor.


I've posted a schematic with part numbers.  I'm sorry that doesn't meet your expectations of "open source".


"play"??  I have spent years and years working on this.  Using nearly all free time in my lab.  With little thanks from anyone.  Just people screaming for more open source.  Give them something and very little gratitude.


Except the few who have pm'd me in private.  Thank you guys for the encouragement!


@Hoppy
I sent you a private message


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2216 on: January 09, 2018, 05:59:39 PM »
Hello ALL,


Here below is a video from last year that I made for my guys.  Anyone knowing anything about magnetice fields associated with current will notice that there is WAY more magnetic field strength associated with this "wire to nowhere" then there should be.  There is NO current flow from the wire to the positive of the battery with the floating ground.  It works without the battery positive but not nearly as well, at this stage.


I am using a few 36 awg wires in parallel for this demonstration.


I show the schematic of how to make this happen, several pages back. 


According to a "few" loud voices, there "is nothing here".  So I just wanted to show you all a little bit of what "nothing here" looks like.


Please ask any of these fine fellows to take a wire or several wires to "nowhere" with no current in it, and to generate ANY type of power please.   :o


YouTube:
https://youtu.be/LtYBF4ouyeM


Cheers,


Bruce


P.S.
Those who are desiring to work on this who have contacted me either by PM or this blog, please feel free to PM me questions and or findings. 

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2217 on: January 16, 2018, 09:07:06 PM »
Allmost there, still waiting for the UDB 130xs FG as i don't want to toast my Rigol FG
How are the other replicators going?

I made the below quick setup using my single channel UDB1000 FG which drives the both MOSFETs simultaneously.
I use only one 12V battery for the moment for the offset, and one 12V battery for attachment to the WIRE.

The picture explains the severall components.

Be aware that the P channel MOSFETs need a negative(r) voltage on the gates compared to the source (at 36V) to be switching
The screenshot shows in blue the source voltage (here only 12V), and in yellow the gate voltage (when out of circuit).
(i have slightly offset the blue and yellow channels to see more clearly, but they should be on the same level!!).
So set your FG to a square wave ALL NEGATIVE signal 96% / 95% duty cycle etc.

The current probe will be measuring any currents on the WIRE.
There is now some magnetic field as being picked up by the magnetic pickup loop VU meter, but this disappears when attaching the ground leads of the scope.
The signals when scoped (gate, source and current) are terrible, but will be showed when the setup is complete with 36V batteries, and the correct dual channel FG

Regards itsu

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2218 on: January 16, 2018, 09:11:00 PM »
I did upgrade to 24V and redid the test (bigger loop on the WIRE).

The below video shows there is current (AC like ringing) in the WIRE and also the magnetic field thats being picked up by the magnetic pickup loop.
This WIRE current, see screenshot 1 is taken with my current probe between the WIRE and floating 12V battery.
Note, it could be that my current probe needed to be 180° switched as the initial pulse seems negative!

Lateron i placed the current probe to be in the 24V supply lead and this signal can be seen in screenshot 2
Here we see the pulse created by the both MOSFETs switching, followed by heavy ringing (8.33Mhz) from whatever is in the circuit.
Removing the WIRE does NOT remove this heavy ringing.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VJhf-LAkyY    (look with Firefox or Chrome when in HD)

Off course the circuit is not complete yet (no 36V, no dual switching signal), so no conclusions can be drawn.

 
Regards Itsu

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2219 on: January 17, 2018, 06:22:09 PM »
I find the circuit in Itsu's photograph difficult to follow. Would someone draw it up as a regular circuit diagram?

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