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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2007, 10:57:08 AM »
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2007, 04:21:48 AM »
Sound Pressure Waves    1.1

Okay, this next clue:

On a post by Jason, here:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg31923.html#msg31923

Jason made some insightful comments about ionizers that clean air, and put an SM quote in his post and I think Jason may have hit a homerun.  I want to also redraw attention to that SM post, as it is a very, very important clue.

SM's words:
?When I accidentally stumbled on a device that appeared to actually pull electrons from the sky, it  was the ONLY working model for many months.?

Now sometime ago, some have concluded and posted, that because of this statement the ridiculous notion that SM is not the inventor, but somehow "found" the device, or that it was invented by someone else.

I would like to put forth a wonderful counter proposal, how about this:

?When I accidentally stumbled on a device that appeared to actually pull electrons from the sky,(SM came across an ionizer air cleaner, or device 25 years ago of that nature, and he thought about the electron circuit using a tube rectifiers, and worked and worked on the device, which was I believe now with Jason, was a type of ionizer that pulls electrons from the air, in everyday air cleaners.  SM worked on the ionizer until he finally was able with a tube circuit and frequency to produce power, and...)
it  was the ONLY working model for many months.?

NOW, remember our discussion of the Tesla thunderstorm Clue, many, myself included, thought the referance was strictly to the whistler wave of 8 Hz.. well listen to this:

Air purification
"The two most common electronic air purifies are negative ion generators and ozone air purifiers. Simply put, the former produces negative ions that attach themselves to the pollutants in the air thus removing them from the air that we breathe. Ozone air purifiers let out ozone in the air, which as an oxidizing agent, neutralizes pollutants like bacteria, virus, mold and mildew. Negative Ionizers Often referred to as the ?thunderstorm effect?, negative ion generation is achieved as air passes through the purifier, and the resultant air is intentionally negatively ionized and released. When these negatively charged ions collide with positive ions, which usually tend to be pollutants such as dust, bacteria, pollen and chemicals floating freely in the air that we breathe, they bond together and fall to the ground. Older ion generators used this principle of static charge. In the more modern electronic air purifiers, like electrostatic precipitators, the charge takes place within the air purifier itself rather than in the room, and the dust and particulates are captured on metal filters that can be removed and cleaned or replaced, getting rid of the need to vacuum and dust after ionization."

"...Negative Ionizers Often referred to as the ?thunderstorm effect?,..."  WOW, and guess what frequency to generate this, Yep, VLF...very low frequency, from 4 Hz to 60 Hz at very high AC voltage.  Think cold cathode, think ionizer.  I would immedietly encourage those experimenting with the whistler wave, to make sure it is AC and to Impede the signal (ie..increase the voltage, decreasing the current at the same time)  This will further the cascade of electrons within the TPU at they collide with large sound pressure waves.

Next Clue:
SM's words:
" I want you to start and think of the generator principles the exact same way that passing the sound barrier was accomplished.
Read
how the engineers finally developed the proper wing design to accomplish super sonic speed in aircraft.
I hope it will give you a picture of what is going on inside the generator and especially the collector."


Everyone has misunderstood this clue for a simple reason.  Notice that SM says, "...how the engineers finally developed..."  This is the clue that leads to further understanding of what is going on in the collectors.  This IS NOT a reference to the "area rule" or the indented curves put into the fuselage to allow the plane to break the sound barrier unless you plan on attaching a motor and flying your TPU...LOL     WHAT IT IS, is a reference to HOW THE engineers finally developed this knowledge....

They used a 8-Foot Transonic Pressure Tunnel.  This is what allowed them to do the different test to determine the area rule.  What we have in the collectors is a "TYPE" of transonic pressure Tunnel.  We are running large (AMPLIFIED) frequency.  These are putting out pressure waves within the collectors at transonic speeds.  These pressure waves, in particular, these act upon the ions within our tunnels (collectors).

As spoken above, modern Ionizers use an air intake.  You might say that the collectors have air intakes on steroids.  These large pressure waves converging on the ions released.

The speed at which sound travels depends on the medium through which the waves are passing, and is often quoted as a fundamental property of the material. In general, the speed of sound is proportional to the square root of the ratio of the elastic modulus (stiffness) of the medium and its density.

The matter that supports the sound is called the medium. Sound propagates as waves of alternating pressure, causing local regions of compression and rarefaction. Particles in the medium are displaced by the wave and oscillate.

Now, the reason that the frequencies being input into the collectors (resonance, harmonic, intermodulation) MUST be amplified is because it increases both PRESSURE and VELOCITY.

As a PRESSURE force:
   P = PRESSURE OR SHOCK OVERPRESSURE
   0 db = 2 * 10 E-5 n / m * E +2 = 0.00002 newtons per square meter = 6.76 * 10 E-6 ounces /square foot
   6 db = 2 times the pressure
   DB CHANGE = 20 * LOGBASE10 (PRESSURE CHANGE)

As a VELOCITY = U:
   U = 0 db = 4.9414 * 10 E-8 m * s * E-1 = 4.9414 * 10 E-8 meters per second = 0.0000000494 meter / second
   6 db = 2 times the velocity
   blast wind VELOCITY = U = (5*OVERPRESSURE/7*ATM) * (C/SQUARE ROOT(1+6*OVERPRESSURE/7ATM))
   blast wind PRESSURE = Q = 2.5 * OVERPRESSURE SQUARED/(7*ATM + OVERPRESSURE)
   DB CHANGE = 20 * LOGBASE10 (VELOCITY CHANGE)
   but it becomes non-linear and inaccurate progressively above about 170 db.  Although the speed of sound is 343 meters per second, a sound wave generates a certain actual particle velocity. This is the molecular velocity of air particles. Usually these velocities are extremely slow, after all molecules are very, very  small. However for extremely amplified sounds these velocities can become very high 10 TO 2000 meters per second, and are called ?blast winds? which generate ?dynamic pressure?(Q). These blast winds also consume a large percentage of the TOTAL acoustic output. The louder the sound, as in bomb explosions these blast winds produce a significant portion of the damage. Also, when a dynamic WIND wave(Q) hits a structure its momentum reflects and increases from at least twice the pressure to 4.4 times at 70 p.s.i. or even more the louder the shock wave. Interestingly, typical shock waves are very, very thin, about 2 molecules thick which is equal to 0.000000002 inches, even when pressure is very high:180-200 db.

SM's words:
"But it behaves very much like a simple radio receiver except for the fact that radio waves need to be amplified before they can be of any use to us."
And
"REMEMBER, all of that noise and hash in your solid state amplifier is in the output signal !
Now tell me? What do you think is happening inside the extremely sensitive torrid generator when you use solid state devices to attempt to create the required precise control frequencies to make catalyst and produce power???
By the way, your Solid State amplifier generates so much noise that if you measure the mains wiring you can see noise from YOUR amplifier (the capitalization is SM's.  Do you think he is trying to tell us something?  LOL) actually getting back through the transformer and into the mains input wiring!!!
Understand what perfect frequency is."
And
"Lamp cord is what I use to connect my speakers to my amplifier. You should hear my new amplifier I have made."
And
"I am using 6BQ7-A tubes for the input and phase inverter because they are VHF amplifier triodes designed to operate in Color TV at very high frequencies and so you can imagine how crystal clear my high frequencies are in my stereo amplifier."
And
"Did you know that electron transit times in some tubes approach the speed of light?
They are mini particle accelerators. (Why?  AMPLIFICATION = VELOCITY and pressure)
Did you know that the best electron transit times of transistors is about like turning on a mechanical switch for a lamp?
That is probably why they use so much negative feedback in transistor amps, to keep the output signal close to what the input signal was.
But, if you need all that negative feedback to lower distortion doesn't that SLOW down the amplifier even more?
Gee, why not just build a tube amp to begin with
Less distortion and little need for feedback overdose.
Much faster all around."
And
"You know, it would be especially suited for high frequency reproduction." (NOTE:  high frequency REPRODUCTION.  We are NOT looking for radio waves.  Get it out of your brain!)
And
"I have designed some amps using MOSFET , etc.
which sound very much like tube amps.
However when I want to design a new amp I always start with tubes and when I get them perfected I move on the MOSFETS..."
And
"I made an amp and had a really difficult time with a 35K resonance."

               So, on and on SM states that the frequencies (resonance, harmonic, intermodulation) MUST, HAS TO BE, WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT the stage of amplification of the frequencies.

WHY?  They will lack both the pressure and velocity to allow the TPU to go to catalyst. :o
I plan on, and would suggest TWO different parts of the controller.  1 part = circuit to both produce our AC electromagnet and at the same time, acts as the AC high voltage Ion producer (cold cathode).  The second part is MUCH MORE sensitive.  It is a "type" of tube amp to AMPLIFY the frequency.  If using Solid state, it must mimic the SPEED of tubes, think distributed amplifiers (They mimic tube amps)  Your circuit for this SM states MUST BE soldered ? inch above the board, to keep the frequencies PURE.  Or if you use tubes, THINK TUBE AMP. I do not know what pressure or velocity (a function of db. ) is needed.  This will come through experimentation.

IF you ignore the amplification stage, do not expect catalyst.  After years working to mimic the tubes in SS devices, SM never would have if AMPLIFICATION of the Frequency was not needed.

As the clues cascade, soon so will the electrons.
Now we start to further understand.

Tomorrow I will post the meaning of the warning clues given by SM.  THIS will be very important for experimenters to avoid disaster.

Thank you for your time, and again I hope that it has been fruitful.
Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2007, 05:58:04 AM »
Bruce ,

Radiant Energy - ala Tesla.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Tesla outlines the warnings and dangers.

SM picked his device up with his bare hand - the only danger there was the heat produced by the device.   

Tesla - No shields, no cages.  Just coils, a spark gap and a capacitor.

Look at the different effects producd by Tesla with RE just by varying the impulse duration and hence the rate of change of the field.

Eric Dollard has reproduced these effects.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2007, 06:51:47 AM »
First, a PUBLIC thank you to my TPU partner for locating the following video.  It is 3 minutes long and it is proof of the EXACT frequency of the Whistler Wave.

If this is old new for some of you, shame on you for not telling the rest of us as I wrote 8 Hz in my posts!  The exact frequency of the Whistler is 7.8 Hz.  If you do not think that it make that much differance, watch this video.  I have dial up at my farm and took forever, but it was well worth it.  This ONE THING could make a huge difference between a TPU that works or doesn't.  We must work together, even if some of us have different ideas, for in the end, they may very well be connected.

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=5540717206741162529&q=marcos+magnets

Thank you for your time, and enjoy the 7.8 Hz show.
P.S.  If some of you magnet guys can't think of something to do with that, I'd be surprised.   ;)

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2007, 07:30:04 AM »
THanks for the video I must not have been paying attention about the Whisthler wave . The schumans rersonate frequency is the same 7.8 , Theres a web site that you can see the daily forcast on it  , It shows all the upper levels and lower levels too    http://147.175.143.11/schr-e/index.php?filename=200704180100  ... Mike

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2007, 08:52:01 AM »
a whistler wave isnt a name for a certain frequency ..
1. http://www.oulu.fi/~spaceweb/textbook/whistler.html
2. http://spp.ece.cornell.edu/rockets/T-III/whistler.html
3. http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/plasma/lectures/node50.html#f13
4. http://www.answers.com/topic/electron-cyclotron-wave
5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_cyclotron_resonance

 also called a electron cyclotron wave

as also noted by Motorcoach1, the 7.8 Hz freq. is called Schumanns Frequency.

it is derived from speed of light/circumference of sphere (earth)
300000km/s / 40000km/cycle = 7.5Hz .. very close to 7.8

as read on other sites .. the freq. changes due to other factors like atmosphere, magnetism, fields, etc.
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The fundamental frequency of the Schumann resonance
is roughly the fundamental frequency of a spherical shell whose
inside boundary is the surface of the Earth
and whose
outside boundary is the ionosphere,
acting as  a spherical shell electromagnetic waveguide cavity.
 
The fundamental frequency ought to be roughly
the time it takes electromagnetic radiation
to go all the way around the spherical shell.
 
Since the speed of light is about            300,000 km/sec
and one cycle is the circumference
of the Earth, which is about                  40,000 km/cycle
 
the fundamental frequency should be on the order
of              300,000 km/sec
             _____________________     =  7.5  cycle/sec
                40,0000 km/cycle
 
 
A cycle/sec is just a Hz, so that 7.5 cycle/sec is 7.5 Hz. 
 
The Schumann Resonances are actually observed
by experiment to occur at several frequencies
between 6 and 50 cycles per second;
specifically 7.8, 14, 20, 26, 33, 39 and 45 Hertz,
with a daily variation of about +/- 0.5 Hertz.
 
The 7.8 Hz observed fundamental resonance is
close to the rough theoretical estimate of 7.5 Hz.


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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2007, 09:30:29 AM »
hi Bruce, the resonating magnets in my video are assumed to be simply the magnetic component created by the magnetic emissions of lightning strokes (schumann resonance)

when you talk about the whistler wave, the electrical component comes into my mind and you can listen to the sample of a recording of whistler waves from lightning attached below.
Turbo.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2007, 09:39:17 AM »
here's a quote from SM:

His theory was that the TV while in operation, somehow managed to become a receiver of more then just television waves and so for a millisecond in time became a receiver and the discharger of a huge amount of electrical and magnetic energy.

Except for the fact that it wouldn't have been designed to collect and convert the available power in a useful way.
Instead, the TV just stumbled for one millisecond on the correct combination of frequencies necessary to cause the phenomenon of magnetic collection.
But unfortunately the TV set had no way to control the function and began to absorb and discharge both the electric and magnetic factors caused by the influence of the strong field.
Turbo

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« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2007, 11:00:41 AM »
now about what i think on the whistler wave,
in one video Steven mentiones a vibration at "7.3 cycles per second".
in two other videos he mentiones aproximatly "right about 5500Hz" and around "6000Hz"

i have done some analysis of the exact moment Steven picks up the coil from the table  in the UEC demo video.
as he does this you can hear a loud sound coming from the coil.

i have attached the picture of the moment this happend aswell as the sound.
i have also attached the linear frequency analysis, the non linear analysis, and the spectral analysis.
i have also attached part of the output waveform aswell as a zoomed part of the waveform.

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« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2007, 11:28:56 AM »
the pic's in my previous post are from the real sound sample taken from the video.
i have done a simulation of mixing a 5340Hz sine wave with an 7.3 Hz square wave and the result looks very much like the waveform from the video sound sample so mixing sine with square might be present in the tpu.

Turbo.

Ps. when i was running the sound file thrue the spectrum analyzer my cpu overheated and my computer shut off and rebooted abrubtly....very strange.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2007, 01:57:49 PM »
I can hear the same sound a few seconds earlier (at ~2:55) when Steve takes the wire from the TPU.

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« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2007, 02:14:33 PM »
I can hear the same sound a few seconds earlier (at ~2:55) when Steve takes the wire from the TPU.

Yes indeed the sound can be heard twice.
also you can hear the other little coil which he shows in the video ,ramp up when he activates it.

Turbo.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2007, 03:16:20 PM »
Impressive!  A genuinely intuitive forensic analysis.  Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2007, 03:52:25 PM »
Great work and though process, Turbo!  Very impressive indeed.  I would like you to run one more simulation for us, and that would be the same as before, but in reverse.  BE CAREFUL.  In otherwords, run the frequency as square wave and the 7.8 as Sine.  I bet if will be a match!  Everyone believes that the three sound frequencies are sent as square waves.  There would be no reason to send the AC 7.8 Hz voltage as anything other than Sine.  Please post and let us know..

Thank you Turbo,
Bruce

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