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Author Topic: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2  (Read 1050194 times)

Offline Motorcoach1

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2007, 12:27:45 AM »
As we get farther exploring the TPU and all the thought process going into this subject I for one take something SM said very interesting ( I used baling wire and made some coils)  ok ,  then he said that the SS unit was made from discrete devises. Doesn't that kind of rule out major components such as tubes and other large devices. clue here - how do you make a transverse electric magnet wave and how do you make a longitudinal magneto dielectric wave , the LMD wave is much faster and dosen't need any of the major components. Navy hand book printed in 1947 Torroid amplifiers and oscillators answers this. to be honest some things SM said are a little conntradickting or I'm must be interpeting them wrong. My new coil is a blaster when i operate it on low voltage I'm almost afraid to boost it to a higher voltage and yes if i close the gap it does arc. I read SM patent on his Plasma reactor and that is a cool little unit lots of information there.  well that my 2 cent ....Mike
« Last Edit: May 18, 2007, 03:02:04 AM by Motorcoach1 »

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2007, 01:46:30 AM »
I say you take 3 Telsa coils connected seqentially in a ring. Fire the first one then the 1st fires the second one, then the second fires the third one, then the third one fire the first. It goes around and around and around. Did it with stun guns. Posted it and I don't think anybody caught it. Circle of fire!. Tuned! RE!. Loads of fun!. Dangerous! Runaway not possible because of the blocking oscillator tuning. Whew! While I rarely posted very technical, I did post fun & clamity. Like down to earth. I did post the waves, the clashing transformers, the speakers, the blowout feedback, the 2 frequencies for phase cancellation, the harmonics, the magnetic interferences, the devices on the inside edges. Where did I get all this? From SM, Tao, Turbo, Mannix. I too read, and read and read. And I went straight to the effects. And boy did I cause a shit storm. So everybody here know this. And those before taught what to do. The 2 greatest mechanical lessons were from Otto. His jumpering and the order to use copper. We are there now. I patiently wait for your next posts. You are making great strides.

--giantkiller. Be at peace with your audience and take strides with no shadows.
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2007, 05:58:29 AM »
Okay, I am at SM's lightning clue.  Just when you think that this device can not become more complex.  Okay, my typer is tired, so you can look up SM's post of Tesla's Magnetic detector picking up a thunderstorm from very far away. 

The magnetic field produced by a thunderstorm is an electromagnetic field.  Okay, we have an AC electromagnet in the setup.  Everything points to 8 hz for that magnetic field.  It will be a place to start.

Approximate frequency of an electromagnetic field of a thunderstorm:
8 Hz.

Electromagnetic stirring:
We can note that the maximum torque occurs at 8-Hz. frequency

Sometimes, voltage fluctuations are caused by low-frequency voltage ... with maximum sensitivity to the luminous flux at a frequency around 8 Hz to 9 Hz.  (speaking of plasma)

So, working backwards, I arrive at Otto and his whistler wave (the name given to the low frequency output of a thunderstorms magnetic field) and gk and his warning of being turned into a bright ball of plasma! LOL   

One of the engineering reports stated that the unit operated for something like 2hrs 20 minutes before needing to cool off.  It was then turned on and operated for some more hours.  NO battery recharge.  So the question is, how much wattage are we talking about with this battery??  Please don't say he regenerated it from the output, that would require a DC to DC converter from the high voltage to recharge that little battery.  In the big unit there might be enough room, but the small 6" TPU, no way.

Entrainment:
Entrainment is the process whereby two interacting oscillating systems, which have different periods when they function independently, assume the same period. The two oscillators may fall into synchrony, but other phase relationships are also possible.
The system with the greater frequency slows down, and the other accelerates. Christian Huygens, a notable physicist, coined the term entrainment after he noticed, in 1666, that two pendulum clocks had moved into the same swinging rhythm, and subsequent experiments duplicated this process. Notably, the two pendula stabilized not in synchrony, but in antiphase. They satisfy the definition of entrainment because they have the same period, even though they have opposite phase. The accepted explanation for this is that small amounts of energy are transferred between the two systems when they are out of phase in such a way as to produce negative feedback.
SM's words:
"I originally got the idea from ELECTRON CIRCUITS which use vacuum rectifiers..."

(The phenomenon of entrainment is present in electron circuits which use vacuum tube rectifiers.  JUST LIKE TWO transformers out of phase, we are oscillating aprx. 8 hz Ac to our electromagnet.  We are oscillating three separate, high frequencies (sound).  As the greater frequency slows down and the others accelerate you get a REALLY Big kick. )  Now I understand better still the process within the collectors.  SM put everything but Mom's apple pie into this technology! :)

SM's words:
"...It is an insignificant power supply EXCEPT when the two transformers (two oscillators) get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another."

This is ENTRAINMENT he is speaking of.  He saw this and found a way to create that effect *KICKS* thousands of times a second and when they come together (NOT the frequencies joining together, but when the Phenomenon of entrainment brings them together in that nanosecond, look out!)

SM's words: 
"...all of those frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick!"
And
"When I began to study the effects of multiple frequencies combined together I found out that when you deliberately strive to create the worst case scenario of frequencies you start to get some very measurable kicks.  In themselves they are not much.  But if you make enough of them FAST SENDOFF you get a collective power spike that is more than the power to begin with."  (Overunity)


Thank you for your time, and tomorrow I will give my brain a rest.  I need to know what metal ALLOYS worked best for Otto.  "Alloy" doesn't really help.  Maybe a few specifics would be nice.  Everyone seems to name their coils, so I will name my all copper one Genesis 1 and the TPU with alloy collectors and copper stranded control wires, Genesis 2.  I am thinking of using galvanized steel wire.  Same stuff as baling wire, just thinner.  Not stranded.  I will use copper stranded for the control wires and lamp chord to go from the controller to the frequency input of the collectors.

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2007, 07:02:53 AM »
@Bruce,
I don't see any mention of radiant energy. Is this an invalid item in your model?

It's late. Maybe I missed it.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2007, 07:22:51 AM »
maybe the extra energy that is captured from the kicks is radiant energy.

about the wires .. Tom Bearden talks about using doped copper to help with capturing more ZP energy.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2007, 07:24:57 AM »
@Bruce,
I don't see any mention of radiant energy. Is this an invalid item in your model?

It's late. Maybe I missed it.

--giantkiller.

Hi Giantkiller,
Do you think the DEMPFCG or the EPFCG would cause some sort of RE burst?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_pumped_flux_compression_generator

Sauron.

PS. it'looks very similair to your stungun exept you are missing the "explosion" to stop/compress the current.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2007, 07:24:50 AM »
Hello all,

if you built a 6" TPU ONLY copper wires for the TPU are OK!!!!

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2007, 08:13:37 AM »
Thanks Otto.

Why would the wire type need to change with a larger diameter unit?

@gk  Good question, and I am not sure.  My thinking is that with so many processes going on inside of the collectors, that RE could indeed be a by product of everything.

And this brings be to the point I made when talking to Sauron.  It should be easy to test my theory both ways.  In a few day I will compile a list of experiment in order of priority I will be running.  I want to be as organized as possible and have a flow chart of each differant possability I have a question on.  As well as build my two new coils.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2007, 08:33:55 AM »
Bruce's reverse engineering report 1.1

My brain rested for a day (I wish) and all is well.
Okay, one of the original engineer reports gave us vital clues to guide us in the coil design.

Their report:  (note:  This is just a small part of the entire report, but this is the part I am interested in right now.)
Outside Diameter:  6"
Inside Diameter:  5"
Height:  1-3/4"
Weight:  12 ounces (metric 12 ounce = 340.20 gram)
Output power:  250 Watts
Output voltage:  160 Volts
Voltage Frequency:  5000 Hz.
Duration of Performance:  30 minutes

(This is me speaking again, not the engineering reports.  And my little tests.)
Now the part of this I am most interested in working backwards (I seem to be doing a lot of that lately...LOL) from is the WEIGHT.  Now, at my farm, I have very accurate lab scales that give me the weight both in grams and ounces.  I will use grams for accuracy.

First Test:
One single conductor of #16 stranded copper at 1 foot (metric 30.48 centimeters length:  lamp chord insulation)
6 grams.

Weight of unit with foam core, electronics, battery, wire and black plastic wrap:
340.20 grams

WITHOUT deducting for the foam core, electronics, battery, wire and black plastic wrap yet, we come to
6 grams = 30.48 centimeters     
340.20 grams/6 grams =56.70
56.70 x 30.48 centimeters = 1,728.22 centimeters = 17.28 meters of wire or 56.70 feet of wire.

NOW lets deduct:
85 grams for the core  (approx. weight of foam, if you think less or more change the math, but my end point will still be the same)
12 grams for the battery (weight of 1 AAA battery, and again could be a bit less or more)
28 grams for controller (approx. minimum weight)
28 grams for black plastic covering unit (approx.)

Total deductions:
153 grams

Total beginning weight:
340.20 grams
- 153 grams (deductions)
=  187.20 grams of wire (aprox)
Now, 187.20 grams /6 grams = 31.20 x 30.48 = 950.98 centimeters = 9.51 meters or 31.2 TOTAL approximate feet of wire in unit.


Second Test:
One single conductor of #14 stranded copper.  (lamp chord insulation)
8 grams
187.20 grams/8 grams = 23.40 x 30.48 = 713.24 centimeters = 7.13 meters or 23.39 TOTAL feet of wire in unit

If you are using smaller wire, simply cut and weigh and plug in the math to give you an approximate wire amount.  My last coil has way too much wire in it.  I will now make that adjustment on my next two.

SM's words:
"...If you know how to find the circuit potential, you tune into the frequency (this is the primary resonant one from which the other two, harmonic and intermodulation are derived) and you have enough short pieces of wire
(7 pieces that total about 187.20 grams in my next coil) you can convert as much power as you wish in a given space...."

I think we all need to get over tranformeritis, (A word I just made up, and it means the desire to keep adding wire in the hope that somehow that will produce power.  LOL myself included!  ;)

Also, in the next couple of days I will be posting two more important clues.  One unraveled some time ago, but it is now time to share, because it has become much more clear as we have progressed in our understanding of some of the processes in the TPU and is critical for power generation. 

The second post will be talking of the danger of tuning in to that "exact frequency" where explosion takes place and what that is.  I will give you a hint, it is not a number in Hz.  This will be important for safety and also illustrate the further function of the controller.

I have and will always try to take all pertinent SM posts into deductive reasoning not simply one or two as many seem to do and off they go on a wrong tangent.

Think three dimensionally and try to wrap your mind around all of the process's discussed.  I feel like we are very close.

I will post pics of new coils soon.

Thank you for your time,
Bruce





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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2007, 09:38:27 AM »
mmmm that would be about 32 at 73 winds at 5 mm given 3 coils at 35 on the center coil.mmm 23.8 feet of tesla 1/3 wavelet  mmm ok threes a capacitor at every 43 degrees mmmm  .2 homes wsigal in 55 hrz mmmmm   mmm not i the box the capaciotr eeeds more tha ad ot eqale tomthat

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2007, 10:21:41 AM »
Motorcoach,

You made me laugh! :D
I take it you did not undertand, so let me clarify the math..!
I took some wire
I cut it at 12"
I weighed it
I did math
I came up with how many feet of wire in a 6" coil depending on
what size of wire you want to use.
I used Metric because for weights it is much more accurate.  I then put the final tally of wire into feet to help those mathamatically challanged! :)

I hope this "pigeon" english helps!! LOL

Friendly regards,
Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2007, 10:34:04 AM »
you made me wondr too @ 5000 MMMIN  the wave leingh tahat would be 186.28 fqaster thann light spped (n2 Z coupled) you need 90 degerrs to gap the spark and a bad ground ..... but you a astut you sure you don't work for rayhion

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2007, 10:41:35 AM »
I neeed to send you my schamatiscs hahahaha

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2007, 10:47:57 AM »
Motorcoach,

honestly I do not understand.  Are you referencing my post on another thread?

The engineers report was specific, AC 5000 Hz output of the TPU.

But on this thread, I am simply trying to figure out the length of wire I want to use to wrap my coil.

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« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2007, 10:52:26 AM »
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