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Author Topic: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2  (Read 1121803 times)

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2235 on: January 23, 2018, 06:15:53 PM »
Good job itsu and Ari,


Please do not judge output by led brightness. It can be deceiving.  Simply measure the voltage across the 8 ohm resistor to compare between set up.


My guess is that itsu has the stronger magnetic field in the open ended wire. 


Ari, please make sure that the amplitude knob is turned up on both channels please.  And scope channel 1.  I sent you a pm.


Good start guys!


Every one else.. Why is there a magnetic field in an open ended wire?


Why does that field strength grow or diminish based on frequency and wire length?


How can this information be used to generate electricity?


Cheers,


Bruce


(Bruce)  Why is there a magnetic field in an open ended wire?   

It would seem the obvious answer is that it is acting as an antenna due to electrons on the perimeter of the wire being pushed along the copper.


(Bruce)  Why does that field strength grow or diminish based on frequency and wire length?

SWR or standing wave ratio comes to mind.  Resonance.   Antenna's are resonant at 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, full-wave, multiples of full-wave.   So at the correct frequency for a particular wire length it will have maximum resonance.  [/font][/size]

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(Bruce) How can this information be used to generate electricity?

Just guessing on this but it would seem you need to have multiple receivers (wire coils) in resonance with the antenna (transmitter). 




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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2235 on: January 23, 2018, 06:15:53 PM »

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2236 on: January 23, 2018, 06:27:42 PM »
Dear Bruce


I agree that LED's are not a reliable test. (eyeball test)


What actual claims do you make for the gift circuit?

That I have shown y'all how to get the electrons free from the wire

Do you have a workable  hypothesis of what is supposed to occur in the circuit?


Absolutely! You can now use the electrons loose from the wire to generate electricity. Magnetic field or electrical or both.  [size=78%]You must learn to MOVE them! [/size]


Do you have a test method that proves beyond doubt the hypothesis?


Well of course! I've been working with these electrons for a while now.  Still learning every day! But I have gone to school.
Lol


Have you instituted control experiments to prove / disprove the hypothesis?


Every day! One discovery leads to another that leads to another until you begin to develop the TPU and generate more and more power.  It is a SLOW process and not for the faint of heart... Lol


Regards


Answers above in bold.

Cheers

Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2237 on: January 23, 2018, 06:33:03 PM »

(Bruce)  Why is there a magnetic field in an open ended wire?   

It would seem the obvious answer is that it is acting as an antenna due to electrons on the perimeter of the wire being pushed along the copper.


(Bruce)  Why does that field strength grow or diminish based on frequency and wire length?

SWR or standing wave ratio comes to mind.  Resonance.   Antenna's are resonant at 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, full-wave, multiples of full-wave.   So at the correct frequency for a particular wire length it will have maximum resonance.  [/font][/size]

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(Bruce) How can this information be used to generate electricity?

Just guessing on this but it would seem you need to have multiple receivers (wire coils) in resonance with the antenna (transmitter).


I like the answer I highlighted! Now experiment with that fact and see  where it leads...


None of this will be figured out apart from the bench.  Most theories will go out the window.




Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2238 on: January 24, 2018, 09:56:22 PM »

I think all 3 answers from e2matrix are tightly linked to each other and i agree with them.

So picking out 1 answer to focus on does not make sense to me.

The Spectrum Analyzer shows that the Wire and the 36V supply/return leads sends out energy over a broad spectrum, so
it will by virtually impossible to capture all of it let alone get some gain out of it.

Up till now i tried all sorts of things as the WIRE, like a transformer, a tesla coil, severall short and long wires of different AWG values, loops of wire, etc.
but nothing shows anything out of the ordinary up till now.

The strongest RF signals on the WIRE are seen when the both pulses are in phase (like when using a single channel FG), they then kind of add up,
while else we see 2 smaller pulses next to each other.


Wish i knew an other methode of catching those electrons coming off of the wire.


Itsu

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2239 on: January 24, 2018, 11:44:19 PM »
I think all 3 answers from e2matrix are tightly linked to each other and i agree with them.

So picking out 1 answer to focus on does not make sense to me.

The Spectrum Analyzer shows that the Wire and the 36V supply/return leads sends out energy over a broad spectrum, so
it will by virtually impossible to capture all of it let alone get some gain out of it.

Up till now i tried all sorts of things as the WIRE, like a transformer, a tesla coil, severall short and long wires of different AWG values, loops of wire, etc.
but nothing shows anything out of the ordinary up till now.

The strongest RF signals on the WIRE are seen when the both pulses are in phase (like when using a single channel FG), they then kind of add up,
while else we see 2 smaller pulses next to each other.


Wish i knew an other methode of catching those electrons coming off of the wire.


Itsu


Hi itsu,




So you want to catch electrons...
How does a Vacuum tube catch electrons?


You have no idea what you have.  You must learn how to move the electrons.  They are the magnets that generate current on wires! 


Have you taken a second wire as the first and connected it and seen the magnetic field grow even stronger??


How about many wires? 


Are you recording the voltage across the resistor?


Have you tried two pickups at the same time?


What are the findings?


Cheers,


Bruce


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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2239 on: January 24, 2018, 11:44:19 PM »
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2240 on: January 25, 2018, 10:43:34 AM »
Bruce,

throwing out a bunch of questions is not going to cut it, i (we) need answers.

I know how a vacuum tube works, but your setup has nothing that resembles one.

The FE forums are full of cryptic statements, riddles and puzzles and to me it says more about
the one that present them then about the ones that suppose to solve them.

There are 100 thousand possibilities to hook up your device with all kind of wires, lengths etc. so i will be glad
to do some tests, but you have to be more specific.

Thanks,  Itsu

« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 02:52:57 PM by itsu »

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2241 on: January 25, 2018, 12:17:02 PM »
Bruce,

throwing out a bunch of questions is not going to cut it, i (we) need answers.

I know how a vacuum tube works, but your setup has nothing that resembles one.

The FE forums are full of cryptic statements, riddles and puzzles and to me it says more about
the one that present them then the ones that suppose to solve them.

There are 100 thousand possibilities to hook up your device with all kind of wires, lengths etc. so i will be glad
to do some tests, but you have to be more specific.

Thanks,  Itsu

Yeah that is also my opinion. We are talking about saving this planet and moving beyond our own low earth orbit. With free energy more people will start looking into non-conventional stuff and we will find the link between electricity, magnetism and gravity.

If you have overunity please present the process and schematics. If you want to get rich then write a book about it. Go to the Nobel price ceremony and Oprah. If somebody gives you riddles he just wants more people looking into stuff he is looking into. Propably something that is totally false.

Just read the "Mannix last will and testament" where he states that these are the last words he is ever going to say and then lock the thread. What? You gonna die with the FE secret?!? How noble of you!

There are zero genuine overunity and free energy devices on this forum. 8000 trolls and 400 people with soldering irons.

Join the movement. Let's leave this rock! https://www.project-eden.eu/


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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2242 on: January 25, 2018, 10:03:35 PM »
Bruce,

throwing out a bunch of questions is not going to cut it, i (we) need answers.


I'm sorry.  I gave the circuit for serious experimenters.  People accepting hints to help themselves on the road to discovery. I will certainly not be giving any more information.  I gave the circuit and hoped for serious experimentation.

I know how a vacuum tube works, but your setup has nothing that resembles one.


Are you sure??  I already explained to you guys that the electrons are off of the wire.  Now you need to attract them to move them.  A easy clue not a riddle.

The FE forums are full of cryptic statements, riddles and puzzles and to me it says more about
the one that present them then about the ones that suppose to solve them.


I'm too busy at my own bench to follow any fe forums, so I would not know.

There are 100 thousand possibilities to hook up your device with all kind of wires, lengths etc. so i will be glad
to do some tests, but you have to be more specific.


Really? How do you guys think that I learned??  Three days on the bench and ready for a Steven Mark schematic?

It's okay, I was never giving this circuit for replication but rather to move any serious experimenters ahead of where they are.

Thanks,  Itsu


Hi itsu,


Answers above in bold.


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2243 on: January 25, 2018, 10:33:56 PM »
Bruce,

not sure why you are acting this hostile, you where asking for replications and thats what you got, see here:
http://overunity.com/2300/bruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2/msg514750/#msg514750
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Is anyone going to replicate this?
I have replicated your schematic and am now trying to experiment with it to see if i can match what you are saying (electrons coming off of the wire)
with what i am seeing / measuring, which up till now is some RF being transmitted out.

So i can keep experimenting untill i look green in the face, but if you don't want to give any more hints (or puzzles or riddles or what you call them)
i won't ever see what you seem to see.


Itsu

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2244 on: January 29, 2018, 04:21:31 AM »
Hi itsu,


The electrons in a vacuum tube are attracted to the anode of the tube.  The anode of the tube is positive DC voltage.


Now look at the two circuits I gave in the schematic.  Identify the DC voltage in the pick up circuit.  Take the cathode wire to the floating battery and connect it to the pickup circuit. Test different wires, resistors  etc.  See what you see.


I did not mean to be hostile.  I just was a bit frustrated that people give up too quickly, judge things they haven't tried, too quickly, etc.


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2245 on: February 02, 2018, 02:46:17 PM »
I got my FG back and channels 1 and 2 working as supposed too.
https://youtu.be/DCkNn1DbSqI


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« Reply #2246 on: February 02, 2018, 03:31:35 PM »
I got my FG back and channels 1 and 2 working as supposed too.
https://youtu.be/DCkNn1DbSqI




Looks good Ari!


Please put your resistor in series with the LED, not parallel to it.  You need to have a resistor in there to take voltage measurements.  When taking voltage measurements when working on increasing the power across the resistor, always short your led with a small piece of wire first, so you can actually determine wattage.


Give us a voltage measusrement and I will give you some more ideas after, to try to increase power output in the pick up coil.


There IS a magnetic field in an open ended wire where there should be NONE.  This is because the electrons are loose and flow throughout the length of the wire.


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2247 on: February 02, 2018, 07:13:30 PM »
I'll test with oscilloscope, but for now is what I have:


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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2248 on: February 03, 2018, 05:14:23 AM »
Good job Ari!


So your "wire to nowhere"  is generating 26.25 mV of power.


Now you must work on growing it.  Change the wire to nowhere to magnet wire.  Keep the same length.  Measure the length and note it here.


Run the same test with the Led shorted and note the voltage here.


Also when your meter shows negative reverse the meter polarity across the resistorr so you get a truer reading.


Cheers 


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2249 on: February 04, 2018, 05:08:34 PM »
Good job Ari!


So your "wire to nowhere"  is generating 26.25 mV of power.


Now you must work on growing it.  Change the wire to nowhere to magnet wire.  Keep the same length.  Measure the length and note it here.


Run the same test with the Led shorted and note the voltage here.


Also when your meter shows negative reverse the meter polarity across the resistorr so you get a truer reading.


Cheers 


Bruce




Done. No changes at all in the voltage neither in the led brightness. I used 18 awg magnet wire instead the wire that I had used before.


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