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Author Topic: Barbat low inertial mass generator  (Read 49138 times)

Offline tak22

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Barbat low inertial mass generator
« on: April 22, 2007, 12:17:33 AM »
William N. BARBAT - US Patent Application # 2007/0007844 - January 11, 2007

Self-Sustaining Electric-Power Generator Utilizing Electrons of Low Inertial Mass to Magnify Inductive Energy

http://rexresearch.com/barbat/barbat.htm


Abstract

Electrical oscillations in a metallic "sending coil" radiate inductive photons toward one or more "energy-magnifying coils" comprised of a photoconductor or doped semiconductor coating a metallic conductor, or comprised of a superconductor. Electrons of low inertial mass in the energy-magnifying coil(s) receive from the sending coil a transverse force having no in-line backforce, which exempts this force from the energy-conservation rule. The low-mass electrons in the energy-magnifying coil(s) receive increased acceleration proportional to normal electron mass divided by the lesser mass. Secondarily radiated inductive-photon energy is magnified proportionally to the electrons' greater acceleration, squared. E.g., the inductive-energy-magnification factor of CdSe photoelectrons with 0.13.times. normal electron mass is 59.times.. Magnified inductive-photon energy from the energy-magnifying coil(s) induces oscillating electric energy in one or more metallic "output coil(s)." The electric energy output exceeds energy input if more of the magnified photon-induction energy is directed toward the output coil(s) than is directed as a counter force to the sending coil. After an external energy source initiates the oscillations, feedback from the generated surplus energy makes the device a self-sustaining generator of electric power for useful purposes.

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2007, 12:40:16 AM »

Offline tak22

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2007, 05:44:37 AM »
 :o The Barbat patent is an absolutely incredible document  :o

It was my birthday yesterday and I asked for nothing, and my family and friends honored my wishes. Instead I read this patent non-stop like it was the greatest novel of the century! Please read this because if you're like me and follow virtually every significant event on this forum you'll recognize a level of brilliance comparable to Tesla.

Everyone here that has wound a coil or tinkered with electronics, or desperately wanted to, will find inspiration in the sheer simplicity of Barbat's generator.

Please take the time to download the PDF, skim it first to get a sense of the concept, read it front to back, then come back here with your best idea for a replication attempt.

Down with the complexity, up with the simplicity, and may the low-mass electrons power our future!


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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2007, 10:50:20 PM »
   How conveniently it was removed..... :o

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2007, 11:03:11 PM »
No, sugra. Copy/Paste in the Patent Number 20070007844

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2007, 11:09:28 PM »
 :-\

hey worked that time. Last time said it had been removed. ??

The photo sensiv layer is what interests me. What is it made of.

the rest, no prob.

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2007, 11:26:56 PM »
@sugra

There are 3 receiving coil methods in this patent: superconductors (too expensive), photoconductive materials (very difficult to find ready to use), or oxidized copper. I'm setting up to try the oxidized copper as it's easy to work with.

So far I have distilled the patent down to it's base fundamentals and have gathered up 90% of the parts I need. My test method will be to build an "ordinary" 3 coil unit and measure the output, then swap in the "magic" coil to check for the difference (fingers crossed for +). If a positive result is achieved I'll move on to getting the feedback loop working ...

If you research and find a readily availabe and easy to work with photoconductor please post it as I believe it's the preferred material.

hey brnbrade replicators: cupric oxide!

tak
« Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 04:16:04 AM by tak22 »

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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2007, 12:45:58 AM »
I did a quick trial setup of 3 coils to see what a PC function generator input could do: nothing. The goal of current testing is to find a setup that works 'conventionally', then substitute a low mass copper coil to look for the claimed output gain.   
 
Test Theory:

- AC 'power' applied to Input Coil, which causes induction in Receiving Coil, which causes induction in Output coil, which causes a measurable AC 'power' out. Power out will be a very small fraction of power in.
 
Test Setup:

- Input Coil - PC Function Generator sine wave from one channel at about 0.87 volts AC.
- Receiving Coil - closed loop bare copper coil.
- Output Coil - inside the Receiving coil.

Questions:

- Is the wire size too large for the input? Not enough turns?
- Do I need a variable AC power supply? Would it need to do variable frequency as well?
- Can I measure output with my digital multimeter or do I need something else?

Laughter: accepted if required

Attached is the basic Barbat coil layout.

tak

« Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 04:17:29 AM by tak22 »

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 12:51:33 AM »
A bit more of Barbat for all that may still be interested,

A big thanks to Hans for picking up on my cryptic reference awhile back in the Earth Battery thread to the patent for a Self-Sustaining Electrical Generator by William Barbat. This patent is my project of choice, but I haven't gotten much further than pulling the patent apart for a list of clues, and coming up with a simplified replication build plan. But maybe what I have done will help others to conceptualize/visualize what Barbat is saying/claiming.

Trivia: Tesla's Self-Sustaining Electrical Generator and the Ether, by Oliver Nichelson (Proceedings of the 1984 International Tesla Symposium)  A naming coincidence?

I've concentrated on working with the cupric oxide (CuO) variation instead of the exotic/expensive photoconductors, doped semiconductors, or superconductors as a source of and conductor of low-mass electrons. Need to find a method for oxidizing copper wire to get the cupric oxide coating.

Finally, before you ask me about wire diameters, # of turns, dimensions, variable caps, etc, just don't, as I don't know the answers. I just know this is my interpretation of the minimum it will take to either get a result, or drive yourself crazy.

The remainder of the original post can be found here http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3500.msg61921/topicseen.html#msg61921

tak
« Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 04:19:29 AM by tak22 »

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2007, 02:20:05 AM »
tak,

have you tried putting the input coil into the center of the other two coils?  after reading your post in " the earth magnet section, i just got the feeling that there was a tpu actually being described.  of course i never looked at the actual pictures from the patent and have only just looked at your replication attempt pictures.  i guess i was out of town during the time this site came up the first time.  i wonder if this could be coupled with the "earth battery"  and then with dr. stifflers or em device's projects to make things crazy.

lol
sam

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2007, 02:30:19 AM »
sam,

from my understanding it wouldn't work that way as it requires the physical geometry between the smaller input coil and the larger energy magnifying coil to minimize the BMF regions, which then maximizes the output potential.

tak

 
« Last Edit: January 20, 2008, 10:28:27 PM by tak22 »

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2007, 02:52:21 AM »
tak,

i am sure you are alot more familiar with the design than i am.  however the first impression i got, from my initial read was, " this is a patent for a tpu" !

would you cosider an experiment where the input coil was placed on the inside of the manifying coil?  if the magnifying coil was enlarged, and the input coil was properly spaced inside, it seems that it would not only magnify, in a small arc, but would be magnifying 360.  just extend both coils into a toroid and viola, a TPU!!!  maybe, possibly, hopefully.  what do you think?

lol
sam

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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2007, 03:36:00 AM »
sam,

I'm so glad to see your enthusiasm and questions!

I'd certainly like to be the expert on this tech, but so far I've only gotten so far as to understand how this might work based on the patent. Maybe/if it's proven then it can be extended to other configurations. At the same time, there's nothing stopping anyone from trying any config they can dream up within the basic "rules" set by Barbat.

and these are: the input coil radiates inductive photons to the energy coil (which has low mass surface electrons), "magic" happens  ;), and the energy coil radiates to the output coil, voila! A -> B -> C. It's up to the experimenter to find the best configuration that optimizes the two exchanges, and minimizes the BMF.

if a TPU configuration works, then great!  I'm here to encourage replication and experimentation and learn enough to know what I need to do this myself.

tak




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Re: Barbat low inertial mass generator
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2007, 03:55:58 AM »
Just a side note... I do remember some talk about placement of primary coils... look at a tesla coil, the generic shows us a few rings of a large copper gauge wound around in mid air at the base of the secondary... Or at least thats what's in just about every video and most diagrams folks post ... now to my point... Tesla's patents speak of a flat wound spiral primary seated at the base of the secondary. So look at it this way take the lid of a coffee can and say thats your primary and take an empty paper towel cardboard tube and place it upright in the center of the plastic coffee can top.   now... drop a marble down the tube and realize that if suspended there might be some spring action .... like a pump or swing.. smack... The difference im starting to see is that part of geometry of the primary is within the tube not inside it technically but within the z axis at the base.. top down you see the coffee can top when you look through the tube..   Now what i was getting at is all these other primaries are outside the tube looking down just circling it..  Just some conclusions ive drawn.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2007, 04:15:01 AM »
think about all the old energy patents and pictures you've seen with "coils of copper" in them,

and remember that it's only fairly recent that copper wire has been annealed with a process that keeps oxyen away and prevents cupric oxide CuO from forming.

so now look at the pictures again with an eye to what might be happening with some of these oxidized coils ....

tak
« Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 04:25:40 AM by tak22 »

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