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Offline Implosion

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2007, 08:14:31 PM »
Hello, i am also busy with building a testatika device. I think, they are using discs of different materials.
Because one disc must be Positive and the other negative.
That's why i am going to use a Glas disc and a Vinyl disc.

I have those two discs allready, and also the metal plates on the disc. ( chroomsteal, can be made magnetic )

I have tested with my hand ( positive ) to charge it on the back of the vinyl disc ( negative ) and if you look good on the picture, you see sparks coming to the middle. so that theory is a proof for me, that the ions are going to the middle ( to get less energie leaks )

Tell me , if i made the right choise, for using a glas and a vinyl disc.
I have not build it up yet, because i am first busy with renovate the bathroom, because we get a baby in the end of december, but I will go futher with it, when i done most work at home ( also babyroom )

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2007, 08:24:31 PM »
Oh i have a question,

With the wimhurst machine, the voltage is created with the brushes, but they are not on the Testatika machine. ( not the metal plates in front of the machine, those are for collecting and stearing the discs )

Where is the creation for electrons in the Testatika machine? or does it create by the two disc, rotating the opposite way? and then a distance between the disc at a few mm?

here another photo of the two discs, glued with the " lamels "

I hope you like it


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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2007, 09:29:13 PM »
How is your project doing? What about you'r renovation?

What metal do you mean by chroomsteal? Do you mean Chrome Steel = Stainless Steel ?

Where did you get all the material, I mean that those kind of steel grids are not sold every shop :)

Have you documented any test results so far?

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2007, 10:30:22 PM »
Hi,

Yes, its chroomsteel, and is RVS, but i can be made magnetic.

The project is now on a pauze first, because, I am gonna be a father, and am very busy with the babyroom, and renovate the bathroom. its going well, but cost alot of time.
After that i go futher with building the device.

Greetings Peter from Holland

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2007, 10:55:08 PM »
@ Lycanthropist, the best explanation i ever heard for this type of device.
Very close to beardens explanations, building a negative resistance ...

@ Peter from Holland, wow that looks very professional as far!



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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2007, 10:55:08 PM »
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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2007, 10:36:09 PM »
Nice job Peter , I feel you choise the right matierials on the dics. I was looking over Steves web site and been studing it very closely. could we post a list of all the sites covering this machine in the first part of the thread and keep it up dated ? and start a list and merge steves tread with thid one seeing we'll be working in the same machine. Mike 

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2007, 02:15:51 PM »
Sulake, you asked where I got the materials from, well, I work in a Perforating Fabric of metal. so better it can not be ;)

I have now made first the aluminium tubes for the long tubes. which I think, they are the energy collectors from the air.
In the meanwhile I was busy with the bathroom ( babyroom is finished ) I bought also more materials for building it up. So sometimes I go futher with it, but more with the bathroom.

I can get all perforating materials ( mesh, aluminium, rvs, chroomsteel, copper, and last time we were perforating tutanium what is very very expensive.

I will make several different brushes ( antenne keys ) some of mesh, some of aluminium, and also dual brushes, but I have to test it, what is the best.

Ok, I have to go to my work now.

Here is where I work:

http://www.perfox.com

its in europe, in holland.

Greetings Peter

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2007, 07:24:39 PM »
@ Pete-  nice plant you work at. Must be nice to be able to have the use of the tooling. I work in a glass / plastic  fabrication plant , plant engineer , hands on , so i get to fab a lot of different things. am doing some tests on silver mirror frenzies to see if that works , very thin coating , so there are no edges.      good luck with the bath room  and your new family member !    Mike  PS what are you going to use as bearing hubs in the center. Is there any chance I could get a set of the frenzies (metal plates) like you have and how much?

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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2007, 01:15:56 AM »
@ Pete-  nice plant you work at. Must be nice to be able to have the use of the tooling. I work in a glass / plastic  fabrication plant , plant engineer , hands on , so i get to fab a lot of different things. am doing some tests on silver mirror frenzies to see if that works , very thin coating , so there are no edges.      good luck with the bath room  and your new family member !    Mike  PS what are you going to use as bearing hubs in the center. Is there any chance I could get a set of the frenzies (metal plates) like you have and how much?

Thx Mike ( with the goodluck and new family member )

Oh that is nice working with plastics, I need some more stuff. hehe.
But i have an adres for my plastic manufacturing. not so expensive and 25 km from home.

For the bearing, I use 2 bearings for each disc. so totall 4 bearings.
I do it different then the original testatika and people who want to copy it, because there are several theories for letting the discs rotating automatic. some people say, that its rotating by the brushes ( pushing and attraccing ) and some say, by the horseshoe magnets on the floor. and some people say that there are also steel plates on the inside of the both disc's , only more distance between the plates then in front of the discs.

I think it also rotates by another small metal disc, its very close to one of the long tubes.

So I do all of these tests ( have to test first offcourse ) and when its not rotating automatic, I have another idea from my self, but then i have to add something on the ax ( the steel pin, dont know what its called in english. lol )

It a kind of Implosion technick, and there is then no lost of power. it increases. Its about voltage leaking, and i pick the leaking up again, and put it in a circle so the power is going back to the beginning.

I have allready made the aluminium tubes. ( ion antennes for the surrounding air ) aluminium is an ion-reflector ( have heard the in the docu " how ufo's fly " its on google video.
and I have made some metal brushes. different types, and I go combine it either, double layed brushes with an isolator between it. so then you get a positive charge on one side, and on the other side a negative charge, so then its easier to collect the ions from the disc. but just theories of me. have to experiment it offcourse first.

Ok here some new pictures:

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2007, 01:22:32 AM »
Oh Mike, about getting the perforating sheets, it was also very hard for me, because my machine could not perforate them, but another machine ( where i dont have the knowledge off ) has made them, and one off my work has made them for me. and also sneaky in the nightshift. 

I have ordered the chroomsteel plates by my self, two of 2000x1000x0.5 mm. and that costed me allready 110 euro's.  and they it costed about time about 8 houres. so will be hard to make them again. i have about 96 lamels per disc, so total about 192 lamels.

But maybe you can try to email our company and ask what it cost. I have a design of it in autocad.


I have a question for you, what kind of materials do you think they use for the 2 disc's of the Testatika?
I have seen the interview from baumann, but he lies sometimes about the testatika. My understanding of the german language is enough for me)

But I have based it on the Triboelectric series. and they dont make one disc black for fun. and no one has been succesfull with copying the testatika till so far, and they all used the same material for both discs, ( plexi glass ) and they only get about 5 mv. lol, and some people nothing at all.

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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2007, 02:07:30 AM »
 @ peter - nice to hear from you. the disks only perpetuate the ion field , so the 5mv is static at this time. I got intrested in the machine when I studied weather for a vortex project and started reading about this. When Paul talked about the parts being the sky and clouds and earth that intrested me and haveing the knowledge of the weather it really made sence of how the disks worked. I'm already knolageable on the Lyten jar and the diode so thats esay for me. just need to build some. the thing you will need in the future is some Quarts from that area (swiss) or( Ural) so check with some local rock shops, I tell you why later as we get more going. I agree on the ax or pin as you call it I saw that too. and some are belt driven. but remember the disks are Ion wind makers. the only thing I thought of today on your frenzies (plates) they might be to close together, you mentioned static fireing at the tips to the center , I'm still in question about that , you need all the positive ions you can get the neg's are easy to get, I feel your fireing off the pos's but we'll see.   good luck.  sooooo girl or boy mmmmm  ;D   mike  best reguards         opps frgot about the type of disk - plexi the black plexi has a iron compound the makes the color plus carbon lamp black , clear is just plan ole clear. in the process of the black is hit with high voltage and that turns in into a Electrct mmmmm now thats cool .......of course it destatict but still carries a charge

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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2007, 01:46:44 PM »
@ peter - nice to hear from you. the disks only perpetuate the ion field , so the 5mv is static at this time. I got intrested in the machine when I studied weather for a vortex project and started reading about this. When Paul talked about the parts being the sky and clouds and earth that intrested me and haveing the knowledge of the weather it really made sence of how the disks worked. I'm already knolageable on the Lyten jar and the diode so thats esay for me. just need to build some. the thing you will need in the future is some Quarts from that area (swiss) or( Ural) so check with some local rock shops, I tell you why later as we get more going. I agree on the ax or pin as you call it I saw that too. and some are belt driven. but remember the disks are Ion wind makers. the only thing I thought of today on your frenzies (plates) they might be to close together, you mentioned static fireing at the tips to the center , I'm still in question about that , you need all the positive ions you can get the neg's are easy to get, I feel your fireing off the pos's but we'll see.   good luck.  sooooo girl or boy mmmmm  ;D   mike  best reguards         opps frgot about the type of disk - plexi the black plexi has a iron compound the makes the color plus carbon lamp black , clear is just plan ole clear. in the process of the black is hit with high voltage and that turns in into a Electrct mmmmm now thats cool .......of course it destatict but still carries a charge

About the frenzies, I have tested the vinyl disc, to make it static with my hands at the back of the disc. and i saw sparks at the end ( center disc ) of the lamels ( frenzies ), but if i have build it up all, and i have still sparks, then i go isolate it with an invisible paint between the lamels. ( not on the lamels ) so there are no sparks anymore, but the energy is still going to the center of the disc.

The diode is used for braking the speed of the discs in the testatika, but I will do that later. I gonna build it up, step by step, and test it step by step. also the big coils, they are for reduce the voltage to a usable voltage ( 220 to 270 volt ) I dont need that voltage, because I want to use the higher voltage for more inventions in my head.
The diode is a kind of shortcircuit. and is build by several little copper discs with an isolater in the middle of the hole.  you can see it in this picture, the copper metal discs are on the table in front, ready to build in the diode.

Futher for the horseshoe magnets and the small metal plates and the isolators between it, could be for AC/DC.
The charge is going left and right and to the left again between the horseshoe magnets. but that is just a theory from me, maybe i am wrong. so if its for ac/dc, I dont need that too. LoL.

But I am doubting if the testatika use quartz for in the tubes / leydenjars. on the single disc, they have used a primitive version of the long tubes. ( the copper spiral what is going to a small tube.)
I think, the tubes are the ion collectors from the surrounding air. There is a copper spiral through the tube, and around the spiral is a glass tube of 2 cm, around this is a aluminium tube about 7 cm, and around this is a glas tube a little bigger then aluminium tube ( 7.2 cm )
If on the spiral is a negative charge, it attracs positive ions from the surrounding air, and will charge the aluminium tube positive (  free energy ) the glass tube around the copper spiral is against shortcut ( sparks ) and the glasstube around the aluminium tube, is against dust and moist.
Only what I dont understand, if i look to pictures from the testatika, you can see, that the long tubes are build up in 3 layers. you can see it in the plasma. in the top of the tubes is less plasma. dont understand why. maybe they did it by a reason.

Well I have to go to my work now, perforating metal plats ;)
Sometimes I perforate about 500 plates in one shift, sometimes 3000 plates, depending of the perforation.
LoL. dont understand why companies uses so many plates.

Greetings Peter


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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2007, 11:41:05 PM »
Hello Peter:   I cut the glass disks today, 55cm, 6mm thick. I used solor ray bronze. I was thinking on sandblasting the frenzies or useing acid to remove the mirror surface. Let my know your thoughts on this step . hows the remodeling going  ;D thanks a bunch Mike

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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2007, 05:35:05 AM »
Hello Peter:   I cut the glass disks today, 55cm, 6mm thick. I used solor ray bronze. I was thinking on sandblasting the frenzies or useing acid to remove the mirror surface. Let my know your thoughts on this step . hows the remodeling going  ;D thanks a bunch Mike

Hi Mike,

I dont know if solar ray bronze glass is working, I use normal glass. Is that glass you use, coated? if its a kind of plastic, it doesnt matter, but if its metal, its not good. because then you have a metal surface on it. but you can try it. I would not sandblasting it, or maybe only one side where the coating is on, but not both sides. because you need a flat surface for static charging.

I almost build up the device. Very busy now, baby is almost coming, and I am working now in the weekend for some extra money.


Succes Mike


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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2007, 07:37:33 PM »
opps frgot about the type of disk - plexi the black plexi has a iron compound the makes the color plus carbon lamp black , clear is just plan ole clear. in the process of the black is hit with high voltage and that turns in into a Electrct mmmmm now thats cool .......of course it destatict but still carries a charge

I hadn't thought of this explanation for the black disk. Good one. I had read on a Keelynet page
that you can make a stronger electret by embedding it with conductive particles of some type.
Searching again turned up this: http://keelynet.com/electret.htm
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