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ring_theory

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2007, 07:40:29 PM »
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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #91 on: June 28, 2007, 10:46:08 PM »
Okay, now we have 7390 members over here.

If everyone is willing to donate 1 US$ per month for this project,
we would get every month maybe 5000 to 7000 US$ ( if not everybody donates)

This money could be donated via some kind of
poll decision to the most promised projects
and the experimentators, which will get the money
must publish all their results from their work with the money.

The question is, how many members would be willing
to pay each month this 1 US$ fee ?

Otherwise I could setup a membership site , so
only the people which pay money could read the newest test
results and the experimentators who publish their
test results into the member only area, would get
money for their published work from the membership fees.
This would be then simular to a subscription to
a newsmagazine, where the newsmagazine boss
pays the article writers a compensation money for their
article writing work.

The problem I see here, that many members over here
are poor students or poor inventors , that can not afford to pay a monthly
subscription fee and that they want to try to hack the site
to have a free reading of the membership contens
or they just download the membership contens and publish
it elsewhere for free...

So what do you think would really work to support
the inventors the best way and give them some money
for their research ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2007, 10:52:17 PM »
Just put a donation link up and let it run its cource.
Or like most everything else we can just talk about dong it over and over  for the next 6 months. Just do it  , just build it.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2007, 10:53:35 PM »
Another solution could be, which I am already working on here,
is , that I am doing a much bigger site with lots of portal sites and news pages
about the topic "alternative energy" and "energy usage" in common
and have these more common Internet portal pages with lots of advertisement
and get lots more traditional Internet traffic to them , so the advertisement income will be multiplied and
then I could donate to several projects also some money and not just
increase the OverUnity Prize money....?!

But I have to decide now, if I do this Internet setup work or should
I rather work to do myself some new experiments, which I also want to do...
so it is a hard decision what to do... Make more money to support the community
or rather do myself more experiments to maybe earn the OverUnity Prize myself ???;)
The day has only got 24 hours so far....  :o

Dingus Mungus

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #94 on: June 29, 2007, 02:54:29 AM »
Perhaps you can use excess monthly funds to assist longtime members and serious proven builders to
aquire expensive components for new projects. Just order the parts for them and drop ship the parts
to them. That way its not "free money" getting handed out and only people you know will build it will
get parts. That will further encourage the members/content providers to remain loyal to this site.

Just an idea,
~Dingus Mungus

P.S. The other option is to let it pile up and when we do find "the answer", by then you
should have the money to fund at least 20 simultaneous replications all over the world!
Just imagine 20 identical functioning: TPU's, or Newman motors, or whatever...
All sponsored and built by overunity.com, the site would really get busy then!

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #95 on: June 29, 2007, 05:18:24 AM »
Perhaps you can use excess monthly funds to assist longtime members and serious proven builders to
aquire expensive components for new projects. Just order the parts for them and drop ship the parts
to them. That way its not "free money" getting handed out and only people you know will build it will
get parts. That will further encourage the members/content providers to remain loyal to this site.

Just an idea,
~Dingus Mungus 
P.S. The other option is to let it pile up and when we do find "the answer", by then you
should have the money to fund at least 20 simultaneous replications all over the world!
Just imagine 20 identical functioning: TPU's, or Newman motors, or whatever...
All sponsored and built by overunity.com, the site would really get busy then!
Excellent idea, For 15 years i hung-out with a scientist with more brains than resources. He told me about a water injection system that can make an engine put out some power. I was not told exactly how to build it, he was stubborn!
I've gained an easy 10% more power with no fancy metering, or added negative ions.

I have Newman's plans read it over and over and between the lines there's other things going on in the motor than just oscillating batteries and transmutation. I'm dead serious on building it. I have the time. But I need more resources.

mark
















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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #96 on: June 29, 2007, 06:54:16 AM »
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« Last Edit: August 06, 2007, 04:48:25 PM by ring_theory »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #97 on: June 29, 2007, 07:15:09 PM »
I'm a 2-week lurker... this is my 1st post. So to begin: my kudos to Stefan and the entire O/U community; this is a terrific forum and the prize is definitely a nice & fun little touch.

Earlier in this thread some of you were discussing the implications of this prize as a safeguard to open-source and a deterrent to patenting. I got thinking that whoever does claim the prize will owe much of their success to the community, as we work and contribute together to achieve this common goal.

Perhaps it would benefit this community to consider paying for patents on the winning design, but with a condition that the owner/claimant of the design be this forum, or a cooperative, or some similar variant that would protect said design from being commandeered by an energy corp. In this way, you would effectively be using the free enterprise/capitalist system against itself.

It's just a thought. I'm neither a lawyer nor a seasoned inventor... but like most of us, I am a creative thinker and I try to learn from the trials and tribulations of others. 

What brought me here: A few years ago, a friend of mine designed a fix for a piece of specialty farm equipment and began producing these things at near-to-cost out of his shop for local farmers. An Ag-corp heard about it and called my friend asking to view his design, to which he readily agreed. The Ag-Corp rushed down to the patent office and...well, I'm sure you can finish this story on your own. :P

My intention is not to implore or cajole you, Stefan, or anyone else in any way; I hope to initiate discussion and elicit feedback if there's interest.

Cheers! Mark.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2007, 01:04:28 AM »
This system is a bit easier than that...
Once you post an idea to Overunity, it is essentially open sourced since its freely shared and logged.
Anything found to "work" will have a GNU license applied for, and no one really owns anything.
If some one does patent an idea thats pre-published on this site, then we'll file a civil law suit.

Plus we'll replicate anything. I don't care if ther US millitary owns the patent we'll still build it.
So any corporate hacks reading this can do as they please, it won't stop us.

No one can stop us all, and we'll give it all away for free!
~Dingus Mungus

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2007, 02:07:57 AM »
No one can stop us all, and we'll give it all away for free!
~Dingus Mungus


Amen Brother!
Amen!!!

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #100 on: June 30, 2007, 02:10:18 AM »
This system is a bit easier than that...
Once you post an idea to Overunity, it is essentially open sourced since its freely shared and logged.
Anything found to "work" will have a GNU license applied for, and no one really owns anything.
If some one does patent an idea thats pre-published on this site, then we'll file a civil law suit.

Plus we'll replicate anything. I don't care if ther US millitary owns the patent we'll still build it.
So any corporate hacks reading this can do as they please, it won't stop us.

No one can stop us all, and we'll give it all away for free!
~Dingus Mungus

DITTO! ;D

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #101 on: June 30, 2007, 03:23:05 AM »
I guess we should do it this way:
The OverUnity Prize applier posts a new thread in this forum at:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/board,77.0.html
were he will publish
all his infos about his device and then he will send me the 3 units
and I will send one to Sterlin D. Allan from freeenergynews.com
and one to Rich Weber from (gn0sis.com forum).

Also if you wish you could just send me one unit only and arrange with the other 2 guys to ship
it directly to them from your place for review.

First publishing it and thus releasing it to be public domain and open source it,
makes sure, nobody else can claim it as his own inventionand nobody can patent it.
So you are safe with this procedure, that everyboy knows, you are the inventor.

Then when I have tested the one unit for about long enough,
maybe I could already see it after a few days ( not 3 months as the test period announced),
and the other 2 units will also be positively tested,
then you will be announced as the winner of the OverUnity Prize via
a reply to your thread in my forum and the money will be transfered to your bank account and
we will make a worldwide presentation via the Internet.

Hope you all agree to this schedule ?

Many thanks,

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #102 on: June 30, 2007, 06:47:28 AM »
::THUMBS UP::

Sounds perfect Stefan. Altho three identical prototypes may proove to be tougher (financially) for some than others, but all in all the plan sounds great!

So hurry up all you mad scientists your prize awaits!
~Dingus Mungus

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #103 on: June 30, 2007, 07:30:25 AM »
sorry but that will never work, peoples will not do 3 devices at their own cost for 3k, peoples will do it for 30k, you get so much trouble for 3k

i think the best way is the peoples of the forum try to reproduce it and when let say 3-5 peoples are able to reproduce it (peoples that want to do it and peoples we trust)

even 10k is small for getting all this trouble unless the device cost nothing to produce

its my opinion.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #104 on: June 30, 2007, 08:07:59 AM »
i think the best way is the peoples of the forum try to reproduce it and when let say 3-5 peoples are able to reproduce it (peoples that want to do it and peoples we trust)


Great point the one... That does make a lot more sence. Its not like everyone here won't be trying to replicate it anyway. It could almost be set up so that the prize is won when a pannel of judges are able to replicate the effects not test them. That way the judges will have a more intimate understanding of the device and can confirm from scratch that no required parts are missing from the plans.

Think about it... Someone sends you 3 machines with exotic components, unless you build a replica with accessable parts you won't know if it can be replicated from the explanation. Great examples of what I'm talking about: Stan Meyers and Telsa. All the plans are there, but there is still something missing... Better example: if J Hutchison sent me a working Q-Cell I would still have to replicate it to know if his explanation was complete and error free.

A device must go Stefan to test first for sure though. That way he can rally the troops when he recieves and tests something that is worth all our combined efforts. Massive world wide replication!

I love this place!
~Dingus Mungus