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Offline dan

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rotoverter for power generation
« on: May 02, 2005, 09:57:50 PM »
has anyone built a rotoverter? what are the better ways to do so? does it work as advertised? who has ways that failed? (no use in anyone repeating ways that failed.)? and who has better ideas to make this work easier/better?

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Offline Charlie Brown ARN

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2005, 10:21:34 PM »
What's a rotoverter?


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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 10:26:26 PM »
   Think that is the thing Hecktor  :o  is trying to sell. Hear it doesn't work either
least not OU style.

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2005, 11:53:47 PM »
the plans are for a 7hp motor and a 3hp motor to be connected and it is to run an alternator.


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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2006, 02:13:06 PM »
hi.. there's a rotoverter video, a rotoverter manual, and a rotoverter wiki-page posted with replications by various people (including norman wootan).

googlevideo, 40minutes:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6905677911913482159

rotoverter /zpe manual:
http://rootof.info/distro/RE-OU-v6_1.pdf

rotoverter page on peswiki
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Rotoverter

rotoverter page on panacea:
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RotoVerter.htm

from the previous overunity messages it seems that there is a misunderstanding going on, with people thinking that hector "sells" instructions. i havent paid for any of this information, and there are replications of it. please do check this stuff out. he just stuck his head out and posted about it on the "inconvenient truth"-forum.. if you know what that is :)

hope you guys are fine.. i would be more than glad to find out if any of you build this thing and therefore make your own replication.. would be great.

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2006, 02:13:06 PM »
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Offline FredWalter

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2006, 03:57:51 PM »
replications by various people

The only replication where someone claims overunity is from 2002 - and that person is still alive (as far as I know), and hasn't built a bigger unit to power his house, so...

I'm waiting for someone to replicate this device, who gets overunity with it, and whose results are double-checked by someone else skilled at power measurement, that has the proper equipment for power measurement. Some digital meters are very inaccurate when used to measure weird waveforms.

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 09:01:57 AM »
Greetings Esa, Dan, Charlie and Fred.

First of all Thanks to Esa! ;D

Now there is alot of newbees starting to learn the RV's practical power managment and can apply it in real life, you have to start with an understanding of avoiding energy wastage (as stated by Hector)  before you can get a system of OU. The RV is your best chance to learn and apply this, try it in the Lab and you will see.

This is real life open sourced, Fred it is not as easy to power your home with a OU device and go public.

Im sure Norm who also has the MRA (256-1 OU) could power his own home, but what would happen to him?. Dont worry about reading signs like this try the lab work your selfs.

Visit the panacea site and sign the petitions, also we wil have an RV drill on TV next year, all open sourced.

There is no money going on, just replicaitons.

And the NWO becoming more uinerable to the collective efforts...

Any questions ill be happy to answer. Thanks man (Esa)

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 09:01:57 AM »
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Offline sevich

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2006, 09:39:19 AM »
Hi  epi / ashtweth nihilistic

Whats going down Bro??  You said a while ago on "Besslerwheel.com" that you'll have a slot on channel nine (60 minutes??) Sydney Australia regarding some free energy device's.........are you still with us bro??? .....I have another few years to wait, no probs mate! .......lol.....can't hardly wait

As George Knunstler would say,


"The future has begun"  ......(I'd throttle his little neck if I could) !!!!!

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 10:13:24 AM »
hahar, hey mate!! yep as soon as we get the proto types up to scratch we are on 60 minutes, its time to take OU and energy suppression to the mainstream.


we will be on brisy extra in FEB, befire then with an energy saving RV drill.

check out this site and drop me an email one day mate,

hey every one sevich does gravity wheel R and D, sign up on our site so we can provide help in grants when and where we can.

check out this page mate,

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org


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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 04:40:31 PM »
Fred it is not as easy to power your home with a OU device and go public.

If you have an OU device capable of powering a home then mount a couple of cheap solar panels on your roof, put a small windmill in your backyard, and use them as camouflage for the OU device, and go off-grid.

You could go 'public' by anonymously publishing the plans, with photos, in any number of places on the Internet.

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Im sure Norm who also has the MRA (256-1 OU)

Has anyone other than Norm, that has the proper power measurement tools and expertise, measured the output of his OU devices? From what I've read, these devices produce out-of-phase non-sinusoidal waveforms, and a lot of digital amp/volt meters produce inaccurate readings with out-of-phase non-sinusoidal waveforms.

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 04:40:31 PM »
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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2006, 05:29:41 AM »
new rotoverter video posted. this time its some shots of the bellerian rv replication.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6z2pfnswn40
"Bellerians RV replica output to 2x 60watt 120V bulbs in serial"
"Still have yet to get shots of the paralleled bulbs being driven at full output versus the serial rig that was only pushing 160 or so volts thru both in series.   Hopefully over the next week or so... I also have the 17.5uF caps to work the diode plug adaptation... so will try and get on that this week as well."

hope this helps.
enjoy!
btw, i always thought norman wootan was trustworthy - and wouldnt make a mess out of measuring.

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2006, 12:04:25 PM »
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Im sure Norm who also has the MRA (256-1 OU)

Has anyone other than Norm, that has the proper power measurement tools and expertise, measured the output of his OU devices? From what I've read, these devices produce out-of-phase non-sinusoidal waveforms, and a lot of digital amp/volt meters produce inaccurate readings with out-of-phase non-sinusoidal waveforms.

this is the response i got:
"RV is Out of phase sine wave "RF" and is metered easy ...
people just need to know a fact ...
A meter acts on energy input as any other device ...
The same thing that can make a meter pop its glass off scale can also
make your home toaster burn the bread .
You only need to tune your toaster to it !"


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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2006, 12:08:47 PM »
The only replication where someone claims overunity is from 2002 - and that person is still alive (as far as I know), and hasn't built a bigger unit to power his house, so...

another response from the list:
First thing to say is for him is to do the tests himself to find out.
It only takes a few hours to convert an AC motor to RV mode and dozens of people just on this board (evgray) have done it.
Running any good AC ammeter in line from house power will give you the right amps reading without argument from any engineer once they do the tests themselves...and if the engineer wants to compare and verify the AC readings, then run a 12V battery into any DC-AC invertor, and run the RV off the invertor, then measure the DC into the invertor and you will get the same watts input less loss of particular invertor...
Cant get much simpler than that...dont have to worry about powerfactor or any 3ph equations with battery-invertor powered RV.
Lots of people on the net like to convince others they know lots about something, but in the case of RV you have to do the tests yourself to understand how it really is....laziness and ego-
based "cant ever be wrong" attitudes are only thing to stop you since AC 3ph motors are dime a dozen.
I have a 1/3hp AC motor working as a lawnmower right now, but if you take off the blade and let it run off the "perfect" UF size run cap (17uf in this case) the motor accelerates and accelerates way past its normal "idle" AC sine wave rpm and as it accelerates, the draw in amps goes DOWN lower and lower....you have to pull the plug at the house power socket of the motor, or eventually it will explode...(deliverance) got one to blow - he tried to stop the accelerating
by jamming in some more run caps, and boom. This is more evidence of OU operation in "resonance" mode in RV... just needs to be controlled.
Whether anyone else has or hasnt repeated NormsW way-succesful PMI servo motor as generator tests is not impoertant - those tests are real, and overunity too by good margin...and have been on the net for years and he just doesnt want to believe it.
Best thing to say to critics who insist OU is not possible, because it hasnt been proven to them, is YOU prove it to me that it is not possible and throw ball in their court. They cant prove it, so
everything they say comes back "three times the pain" (Jimi Hendrix - machinegun - 1970)

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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2006, 12:27:34 PM »
Hi Esaruoho,
Are you the person on the youtube video demonstrating the RV motors?
I was thinking that this would be a great idea to use in conjunction with the water hammer device.
The water hammer needs very little torque, just lots of RPMs.
Because of the size of the rotor in the water hammer, you need a fairly chunky motor, like the ones you have been showing. 
Now what if you couple the efficiency of a free wheeling 3 PH motor with a water hammer that is claimed to be 160% efficient?

Hot water, steam and lots of it, use it for heating, cooking, washing, tumble dryer etc.

Regards

Rob


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Re: rotoverter for power generation
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2006, 11:44:18 PM »
kingrs. im not  bellerian. link me to waterhammerdevice.
http://rootof.info/distro/RVTestingBasedOnDeliveranceOptions1and2.doc
RV Testing Based on Deliverance Options 1 and 2 by bellerian.

this should explain the deliverance rotoverter further.


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