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Author Topic: Open Source Vs. Patenting  (Read 106704 times)

Offline ring_theory

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2007, 04:13:25 PM »
@d3adp00l

The game will be won in a very simular fashon as you suggested. That is why I have Open sourced my technologies here in this forum.
Overunity.com Is a "international research" forum. I chose it for that reason. To gain interest in research internationally. I actually want others to do independent research on a couple of my systems electronic and mechanical means. The electronic well it's costly the components. Mechanical means shouldn't cost over $35 to build and a few hours of time. I'm currently gathering components for prototype #1 on it. allready got the magnets, wire for the induction coils, o-rings, and motor controller. I will be posting the progress here in this forum. The SRTT well that's a little too dangerous for the everyday garage researcher. Testing is going to have to be done by responcible research facilities. That is why not quite all details are available for the SRTT.

Treason? Is bill gates a comunist? He colaberated with the chinese with some of his technology to suit there needs. Had it been developed for the military ONLY and he was privy to it. sure i could see treason. Power generation is a international interest in all applications civilian and military alike. However my technologies are not military spacific or of interest in any other way to the military.
     

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2007, 04:13:25 PM »

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2007, 06:05:33 AM »
@R/T likewise in the forum.
        As far as old Billy, I am sure that our boys don't mind at all to a potential bad guy having tech that our military has backdoor access to. And if something generated power, that would be a different story, (yes an opinion of mine). It would be a problem for things bigger than the GOV, and therefore more than likely the GOV would be used like a lapdog to eliminate it. Simple way to look at it, you can't mess with a multi trillion dollar industry and expect to get away with it scottfree. More money goes through those companies than our GOV collects in taxes,(by my last account). That makes it a national security issue, and the domain of the military/three letter agencies, and therefore more than likely a treasonous offense, (just my projection of likely outcomes). Like it says below I believe that knowledge belongs to us all, how we apply it to eachother determines how fast we increase that knowledge. But I will say this, if something I was working on was found to be worthwhile, I would probably seek a more discrete way to share it, but I am not sure the specifics of how that could be done. Maybe a chainletter:) This whole concept would be an interesting scenario to watch and be apart of, sure would answer some questions about whether there are people really ready to do something to stop it. Not sure I really what to know the answer to that though.

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2007, 03:05:44 PM »
You allready know the answer. The world is saturated with overunity, free-energy, perpetial motion, anti-gravity etc, forums, mechanisms, and people claiming to have the answer to those problems. I think the everyday people want to do something about it, but where to invest their resources, providing they have any. Most just want to watch and see the outcome, few want to participate and those that do, want to do it from afar and anon. so yes indeed fear, ignorance, and lust for power will allways win out.

So I sacrifice my freedoms, my very life, in an attempt to help mankind. Because i will not let fear overcome me, Ignorance persuade me, or lust for power distract or oppress me. What will you and the rest of the free world sacrifice?? Let your answer be your guiding force! But i'll tell you now if your not part of the solution your part of the problem.     

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2007, 12:47:05 AM »
And the only way to get to a desired end result is to know where you are going before you start, which allows you to plan the route to take, and not stumble in the dark never getting there. Half of the problem is the tech, the other half is getting it in the world. I have often wondered why more people I know won't help out, they always claim that they don't know anything about what I am working on. Neither did I until I started working on it, oh well. Good luck with your work, me and Silver are gonna get to work.


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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2007, 02:44:47 AM »
Pardon, but was not,several months before, an announcement about a chinese
inventor(P.R.C) of a motor/generator concept ?
Who also wish to donate the concept to the U.N. ?

Such kind of public "attack" can, under "worlwide press watch" security ,save the concept and the inventor ! 

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p.s.: "sacrifice", sacer/sacerdote/sacrificium
       ring_theory,do you know that Jesus Christus,human,had been positioned to be
       GOD-same by (now) "holy" Imperator and "helios"(SUN-GOD) Konstantin !?
       One Imperator with two religions ! And  also known as murder !

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2007, 02:44:47 AM »
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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2007, 08:40:37 AM »
Pardon, but was not,several months before, an announcement about a chinese
inventor(P.R.C) of a motor/generator concept ?
Who also wish to donate the concept to the U.N. ?

Such kind of public "attack" can, under "worlwide press watch" security ,save the concept and the inventor ! 

S
  dL

p.s.: "sacrifice", sacer/sacerdote/sacrificium
       ring_theory,do you know that Jesus Christus,human,had been positioned to be
       GOD-same by (now) "holy" Imperator and "helios"(SUN-GOD) Konstantin !?
       One Imperator with two religions ! And  also known as murder !

I wasn't aware of the chinese inventor or his concept. could you please elaborate or link to an article? Yes such publicity could save a concept or inventor providing others are willing to stand up for the concept and the inventor. But sadly most will just dismiss it and go on with their daily lifes.

It stands to reason that jesus christ was in line to become god. Ahh yes greek mythology A hidden key exists within the greek alphabet. the key furthur unlocks what has come to be known as Greek mythology. Helios is the helix. Constantine is a constant. However it isn't limited to greek background many ancient writings mythology art and cultures religions will be found to make a whole. We must not limit ourselfs to one or two religions. the aztec's, myans, sumarians, druids and ALL the other ancients have keys within their writings portraials of gods etc. The ancients preserved this technology as they knew that it would be lost without their testimonials. 

The key to understanding the relationship between the gods and their appropreate scientific counterpart is understanding the mechanism that they are referring to. after several years of research and development on my technology It started to become apparent that Helios's chariot and Ezekiel's wheel was one in the same. as i studied religions, ancient civilizations and the artifacts, monoliths, megaliths, etc that they left behind. I discovered that the aztec calendar was not a calendar at all but rather a complex blueprint. A blueprint left behind for mankind to decypher. Understanding the technology that it refers to is to understand that nature safeguards it's secrets to be revealed when mankind is ready to understand and apply the knowledge for the benifit of mankind in a safe manner.

To achieve that goal ALL the religions must be united and it must be understood that each religion plays a criticle role in the understanding of the unified whole. Are we ready to do this?? Not only NO but HELL NO! One must look at it as a trillion piece puzzle. At first it is overwhelming the vastness of it. However to complete the puzzle you have to start with one piece. Mankind has allready ammassed a great deal of the knowledge it takes to complete the puzzle. however it is still just a small fraction of the puzzle.     

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2007, 10:33:44 AM »
I didn't know where to post this of if everybody's read this already, but it has some good information in here about the history of free energy devices.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6761/Kelly-D-A-The-Manual-of-Free-Energy-Devices-and-Systems

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2007, 10:33:44 AM »
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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2007, 10:49:04 AM »
Open Source Movement on CNN:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V8tSRJ8e3b0

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2007, 10:53:32 PM »
This might not work for inventions, but if you want to openly publish results of an experiment, and keep them freely available, I suggest the GNU's FDL:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL

Your published (i.e., on the web) results become free (as in freedom) and copyleft, so anyone who copies it has to share as well.  And this removes any confusion that open "source" might cause when referring to research.

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2007, 12:04:37 AM »
interesting point about patents only gives you some grounds to fight it in court. However it comes with no guarantee and no one else is going to do the world policing for you. As we all know a small time inventor with little cash can never defend himself against a large company especially a foreign one thats copies your idea within 2 weeks of launch. History is full of court cases lasting many years over patents and sometimes even the original patent applicant loses.

In the last decade its becoming normal practice right or wrong to use the internet to freely and openly download, movies, DVD's software, games,music etc and so do you think something as important as free or tapped energy device will not end up on every p2p download site and mirror within hours. What can you do take the entire planet to court? LOL no chance. Everyone will get a slice of the action and any will tool up for big business factories churning out the device by the millions and selling them on ebay. Not even microsoft can stop the theft as they said in one report 1 in 3 copies of windows was a pirate copy thus the incentive for the authenticity checker which is also been hacked 5 times same with the Xbox look at that hacked within weeks.

Several countries have their own views on patents. India for example allows  patent protected pharmaceuticals to be manufactured quite legally and about 1/100th of the cost of say US drugs and the patent law their only protects the manufacturing process and not the ingredients themselves. SO If my power coil was made by applying 2 coats of silver varnish and allow to dry for 12 hours in India they only have to change that to dunk into silver and dry in oven for 10 minutes and the manufacturing process has changed although the finished product is the same.

Only way is either go open source and tell everyone everything or keep very low key make a few and grind off all the IC markings put the electronics in a box and fill it with potting compound and glue the lid on and this will make it a bit more awkward to see how it works. LOL



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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2007, 05:16:33 AM »
Free energy ......it is freedom from control.I used a patent in New Zealand to test for interest in my free energy idea...no bites.......I was surprised that I could patent it.I have since posted this idea in this forum. I do not beleive that any free energy technology can be of direct benefit to the inventor .Free energy will not be controlled......everyone needs it.


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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2008, 03:10:16 AM »
Hello everyone. I have come up with a very simple and interesting device that I have applied for provisional patent. My question is there any reason why (once the pending status is secured) I couldn't release the information and share? After all, I will need help testing/proving the device and I really want it reproduced by others.
Dave

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2008, 03:19:28 AM »
You can share.  Patents don't restrict the patent holder from doing whatever they want with it.  If you want to patent something, but want others to be able to use it, you can write up a license agreement to that effect (in the same way that the GPL applies to copyrighted software).

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2008, 03:26:56 AM »
And so If I were to share with this forum, could say a company or corp. use it as it would now be out in the open?

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
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