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Author Topic: Open Source Vs. Patenting  (Read 106899 times)

Offline Rosphere

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2007, 01:24:14 PM »
open source? only usefull for peer review and getting the technology to those that will use it. other than that it's a failure as a way of getting rich. no one will buy the product if you give the technology away. IMHO!  ::)

Given the choice, I think that most folks would rather shell out a few bucks and be done with it instead of attempt to build something themselves.  Not many of these folks would even care to know how it works as long as they knew they were saving money in the long run.  12:00  ;)

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2007, 02:35:49 PM »
open source? only usefull for peer review and getting the technology to those that will use it. other than that it's a failure as a way of getting rich. no one will buy the product if you give the technology away. IMHO!  ::)


actually a lot of people buy open source tech and depend on it. how do you think the internet got here? http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

As far as i know the government setup the network and it was hacked. after that there has been no stopping it. on a side note just what did the government get for it in the terms of monitary gain? that would be my point.

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2007, 02:46:13 PM »
open source? only usefull for peer review and getting the technology to those that will use it. other than that it's a failure as a way of getting rich. no one will buy the product if you give the technology away. IMHO!  ::)

Given the choice, I think that most folks would rather shell out a few bucks and be done with it instead of attempt to build something themselves.  Not many of these folks would even care to know how it works as long as they knew they were saving money in the long run.  12:00  ;)

well I'm going to test this theory. i'm going directly into manufacturing and selling my generators. gotta love ebay. as the inventor that has open sourced his inventions, it is only fair that i be the first to offer it as a finished product.

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2007, 03:04:40 PM »
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well I'm going to test this theory. i'm going directly into manufacturing and selling my generators. gotta love ebay.
That sounds like a very good possibility. I would rather ebay a 'working' item rather than mess around trying to decipher a patent (or online babblings) only to have it fail after weeks of work.. Been there.. Done that.. No fun.. Case in point is the numerous replications of Steven Mark's TPU without an apparent working replication. A lot of interesting results but I see no light bulbs being lighted (for more than a few seconds) after more than a year of various tries by various people. Sure it may work but chances are it is missing that one little key that no one is going to find. If Steven Mark's (or anyone else for that matter) had workings TPU's on ebay I think a lot of people (including myself) would be buying one. Yes I may eventually be able to build one but if I can buy one for a reasonable amount of money then why bother. Open sourcing can make a person money if they want to work for it. Looking forward to your ebay listing to see what you have.  Later, Tom :)


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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2007, 10:13:32 PM »
are you referring to the guy that hacked NASA? http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1124.0.html

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2007, 10:13:32 PM »
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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2007, 11:22:17 PM »

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2007, 02:32:36 AM »
Maybe the best reason of open source Vs. Patenting can be read here
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/D7.pdf
scroll down about half way down (page 19) where it starts talking about Patents and the patent secrecy act and what happens if you have a very useful patent. Very interesting reading.

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2007, 02:32:36 AM »
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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2007, 09:22:19 AM »
Maybe the best reason of open source Vs. Patenting can be read here
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/D7.pdf
scroll down about half way down (page 19) where it starts talking about Patents and the patent secrecy act and what happens if you have a very useful patent. Very interesting reading.

that link did not work for me.

anyways i still and always will stand for Open Source no matter what anybody says. from unix to linux etc open source is by far the best of the best and it will always be this way. but then again it is just my opinion ;)

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2007, 01:52:32 PM »
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http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/D7.pdf
It is some sort of German site. First time each day you will have to go down to the bottom highlited link and click on it.
The main page is
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy
and the first time each day you will have to go to the bottom of that advertising page and click the link. There are a lot of interesting pages from the main page. Someone else on this form pointed this link out to me. It has been very interesting reading all the different PDF's. Later...

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2007, 10:14:26 PM »
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http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/D7.pdf
It is some sort of German site. First time each day you will have to go down to the bottom highlited link and click on it.
The main page is
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy
and the first time each day you will have to go to the bottom of that advertising page and click the link. There are a lot of interesting pages from the main page. Someone else on this form pointed this link out to me. It has been very interesting reading all the different PDF's. Later...

thanks, now it works! :)


peace

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2007, 10:14:26 PM »
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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2007, 02:46:21 PM »
my 2c....
Patents are the biggest waste of time in the world. They certainly aren't going to stop the likes of Chinese manufacturing plants from churning out as many copies as they like, or anyone else in the world for that matter, unless you have countless thousands of dollars to take them all to court to protect your patent.
You also have to have the thousands of dollars up front to purchase your patent, and you have to do this before you can test the markets response to such a product, and then you have to wait for the patent process to process your application, this all slows development remarkably.
And even once you've got your patent, it really isn't that hard for someone to innovate on top of your patent and get around any protection your patent afforded you.

Why go the pain and effort.

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2007, 07:20:01 PM »
Hi FreeEnergy

I came up with an idea the other day that I'm willing to share with you and/or Stefan that could be worth 0 to millions of $$$ I have no plans of promoting this. If you are interested or know someone who is, I'll PM you the info. and you can do whatever you want with it.

 The reason I'm doing this is that If any money is made from it, it could be used to help people who run into a little trouble like Jack H. or other members who need a helping hand.  Just need a trusted member to handle this and I think you or Stefan can do it.

Regards
Dave

PS  This is 100% free. Nothing in it for me


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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2007, 11:46:31 PM »
Hi FreeEnergy

I came up with an idea the other day that I'm willing to share with you and/or Stefan that could be worth 0 to millions of $$$ I have no plans of promoting this. If you are interested or know someone who is, I'll PM you the info. and you can do whatever you want with it.

 The reason I'm doing this is that If any money is made from it, it could be used to help people who run into a little trouble like Jack H. or other members who need a helping hand.  Just need a trusted member to handle this and I think you or Stefan can do it.

Regards
Dave

PS  This is 100% free. Nothing in it for me

email it to me


peace
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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2007, 10:35:53 AM »
is there a license out there that is qualified as "free and open source" for patenting a machine?

anyone?

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Offline d3adp00l

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2007, 04:34:00 AM »
if you don't patent an idea the first mega corp. that does can sue you for building "their" property. If you patent it the people with the keys to the backdoor will know right away and be at your door step telling you if you build it we will be back. Its called a catch 22, rock and a hard place, etc. Its a very large game of chess and there are many pieces that can move in many ways. Can you figure a way to check mate the opposition without losing your king?

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Re: Open Source Vs. Patenting
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2007, 04:34:00 AM »

 

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