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Author Topic: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed  (Read 5190 times)

TommeyLReed

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HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« on: April 14, 2018, 11:36:26 PM »
Hi All,

Still working on a few projects and experimenting.

I like to offer this simple design to use HHO as a added fuel for a water turbine generator. This will create a water hammer effect.

This system is basics with a 60psi/1000gmh water pump. Using a pelton wheel design to power a 48v 1000w bicycle hub motor to charge a 48v battery bank with a 2500 sive wave inverter to power the pump.

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2023, 04:23:28 AM »
John W. Keely of Philadelphia Pa, made an actual water hammer hydraulic rotating motor unit  back in the late 1800's. It was shown with power take off crank running a saw, sawing wood. Self contained. Free energy. The US Patent application was stalled since the money investor's names were not on the manuscript submitted. The all brass unit with 4 way rotating shock valve generated 50lbs internal pressure to keep the balanced flywheel going. ( spoked + heavy metal rim type is best) About 15 years ago, another free energy water hydraulic unit was built and tested in Africa. Years ago I saw in NY, a self running air compressor with no battery, wires, or motor. It had an adjustable vortex tube that inreased the tank's 40lb pressure to keep the main shaft going with air cylinder. Inventor was mowing lawn with long air hose out the window to spark plug hole fitting.

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2023, 08:04:27 AM »
That is, an outbreak of HHO will first cause an increase in pressure and the release of water to the turbine. And then a decrease in pressure, which will suck in a new portion of water?

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2023, 09:42:30 AM »
... suck in a new portion of water?

I think kolbacict is correct Tom.  You probably won't need the water
pump if you keep the splash pan fairly close to the blades.  Maybe
only a small make-up pump at the most.  Unless your planning on
using the suction to bring in the next charge of HHO gas.  As I recall
though, following the expansion, the contraction happens extremely
fast, so your pipes will need some volume to move things quick
enough.

If you are going to be making HHO in a standard cell, having vacuum
on the cell will greatly increase production rate--I'm just not certain
if the gas you will get will all be HHO or if some of it will be water
vapor.  Could be some water vapor is a good thing.  You'll have to
try it both ways and see what works best.

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2023, 04:20:22 PM »
I don't know how big the combustion chamber is but if it contains pure stochiometric HHO under pressure, I would venture a guess that it may well blow the apparatus to pieces and render everyone around stone deaf.

As Patrick, Bob Boyce and others have stressed, HHO is very dangerous.

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2023, 05:53:08 PM »
Hi all,

Yes this was a real project that I built and worked.

This is the working model that disappeared to this day. I was under contract to design and build.

Even my investor doesn't know where it went while NASA engineer was working on a bigger version of it and didn't work for him.

These are a few pictures I still have.

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2023, 06:41:55 AM »
I don't know how big the combustion chamber is but if it contains pure stochiometric HHO under pressure, I would venture a guess that it may well blow the apparatus to pieces and render everyone around stone deaf.

As Patrick, Bob Boyce and others have stressed, HHO is very dangerous.
If the entire HNO will be in the volume of the tank not in a compact form, but mixed with water.
For example, a suspension of small bubbles or foam, will there also be an explosion ?

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2023, 11:15:25 AM »
Yes, attenuated somewhat.
This is why Patrick, Bob etc have always stressed generating HHO as  it is to be used.

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Re: HHO Water Hammer Generator By Tommey Reed
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2023, 02:21:21 PM »
Hi All,

Let me just say most of you have no idea how my system works, this was not the complete system is the diagram.

The Real working model was in the picture not the diagram.

I worked 20+ years in HHO, and it's not a good fuel for any IC engine due to the fact that it has a much faster burn rate.

Until people realize you must separate HHO in a electrolysis and  avoid too much oxygen to enter the IC engine, the burn rate will not change.

IC engines need HEAT to expand the pressure, not a fast expansion one like HHO. The fact the implosion happens is due to cooling effects nothing else.

This deals with Ideal Gas Laws and Charles Law, HHO burn to fast to even cause the pressure to increase due to heat.

Think of the basics, you double the temperature you double the pressure V1/T1 = V2/T2.

The real problem in HHO is energy needed to create enough hydrogen to produce the heat needed to run the IC engine. You be better off to have the watts needed to create steam to do the work in the IC engine.

Sometime people just don't get it, the system I built allow the flow of fluid to move a turbine at a high velocity with very little back pressure. This then has a implosion effects that pulls water in to the tank to fire again. like loading a bullet.

If back pressure is too high, implosion is increase and very little work can be done with HHO.

I get a kick out of people claiming how much litters of HHO they produce, when in fact 1 BTU will raise 1 pound of water 1 degree, or 1 watt would  raise it 3.41 degree. Between those plates most people are creating steam bubbles in most of those videos.

Tom