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Magluvin

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2018, 02:07:55 AM »
I of course am referring to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  The Great I AM.  The Alpha and Omega.  The only true God.  The Living Word.  The One who was and is and is to come.  The same God that predicted 2000 years ago that Israel would again become a nation.  The same God that predicted that in the Last Days many would deny His existence.

Respectfully,
Carroll


Couldnt have said it better myself. Spot on.  ;) ;D

Mags

AlienGrey

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2018, 02:19:37 AM »
Seems funny you did not say we were not suppose to be discussing religious history in this thread when brad does it, as he made a whole list of religious arguments. Most likely because you agree with his views, and that kind of religious talk is acceptable to you. And if you were so adamant about not discussing these thing then all you should have posted was you last statement and left it at that.
So you say you hate me for posting what I did, But I'm not suppose to take offense to it. I don't. ;)
Its your issue of hate and where you wish to direct it, not mine. ;)

"but you talking pagan trash! King James ? it's full of translation errors and every thing is reversed "
Everything is reverse eh?  EVERYTHING you say? I would not accept anything you have to say on the subject if that is your stance, as you are dead wrong. ;) 


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xx How do you make that out ? and I didn't come in on Brads post and I haven't read it XX so stop changing the subject!

xx Hmm you have ignored my comments and picked up on me saying I hate people doing that, well done! xx Whats not what I said or meant!

xx If you going to raise issues with Brad wouldn't it be better to get your facts right first ! xx

I mean you can argue about your issues all night long  but you won't be right but you can have the final say by doing your moderation erase bit and that would be an end to it  ;D ;D


AlienGrey

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2018, 02:39:46 AM »

Couldnt have said it better myself. Spot on.  ;) ;D

Mags
yes I know what you mean but why can't you say his name ? God is not a name! God is short for Godre'el we are not suppose to say that name but you all say it, do you know what you are calling ? yet you can't say the creators name.

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2018, 03:00:43 AM »
Science = religion = magic
i mean who can draw lines separating them?

to be honest, stil learning but
Christ or Krista or Krishna ( means ALL ATTRACTIVE )
even Brahma in Hindu!!
 well its the same story. again and again!

how can we solve this PARADOX?

regards

Magluvin

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2018, 04:14:53 AM »


xx How do you make that out ? and I didn't come in on Brads post and I haven't read it XX so stop changing the subject!

xx Hmm you have ignored my comments and picked up on me saying I hate people doing that, well done! xx Whats not what I said or meant!

xx If you going to raise issues with Brad wouldn't it be better to get your facts right first ! xx

I mean you can argue about your issues all night long  but you won't be right but you can have the final say by doing your moderation erase bit and that would be an end to it  ;D ;D

You speak that we need a correct translation. Well what does XX mean? What does "Whats not what I said or meant!" mean???  Maybe its you that needs correct translation, not the Bible. ::) I understand the Bible perfectly. You cannot change my mind on any of it. As Carrol said, God is the God of Abraham. Thats the answer Carrol and I give you. And Im sure there will be more from you on this, Call God what ever you want. Free will. Use it wisely.  ;) Our answer doesnt satisfy your needs then tough angel cookies. ;D Thats all we need to say. What? You wish to denigrate us over this? I read Brads post. I thought about a lot of it over the days its been up. And today I made a reply to just 1 of his arguments, which was number one on the list. I have the right to reply to his religious arguments, yet you say that we should not. And not only do you say that we should not, you go further with all the, 'You need to get your facts straight".  Snowflake effect is what I think it may be. You have been triggered and you will have none of this from us. Well too bad bud. Well little grey alien friend, we aint goin nowhere. ;) :D ;D :o

Oh. You say you didnt read Brads post?  You just 'followed' only me here to read what I have said, and never looked over the thread before? You didnt even look at Brads post that I 'quoted' right there in my post to figure out what I was replying to, and the only one you come at is me and not brad for talking about religion???????? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

I know what this is. Im not going to fill these pages with arguments with you. Seen it and done it many times here. I dont value your ideals you have presented so far to make those kinds of commitments of my time any longer. You dont want a debate. You want to bash and crush what we have in our beliefs. Not to change us. You dont want others to follow the right path and you will interfere with that and never ending. You are one of many here that dont believe in God and cant just leave the  ones that do alone about it. Its gotta be a big show for you. I know what you are. And I know some others here that you all would get along just fine together. Well why dont you just go and do that. ;) Because I for one am not further interested in what you have to present. I already know what it is. Im done. ;)

Mags


hoptoad

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2018, 04:48:36 AM »
Science = religion = magic
i mean who can draw lines separating them?

to be honest, stil learning but
Christ or Krista or Krishna ( means ALL ATTRACTIVE )
even Brahma in Hindu!!
 well its the same story. again and again!

how can we solve this PARADOX?

regards
Well, personally, I draw a big line between them. How? Obviously it boils down to what you think the real purpose of each is.

Science is about the study of the physical universe, in an attempt to explain the origin of every'thing', and how every'thing' works.

Religions (and Social Science) are about the human experience and human actions. While they pay lip service to existential origins and how 'things' work, their real purpose has nothing to do with explaining how we came into existence, or why a rubber ball bounces, their primary focus is on WHY (i.e. purpose) we were born into existence and how we live our lives within this existence.
Magic is entertainment through deception and misdirection.

In summary :
Science is concerned with what, when and how.
Religion is concerned with whom and why.
Magic : is concerned with tricking/entertaining you for any purpose that suits the magician.

Of course, all of the above, is my subjective opinion.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2018, 07:37:45 AM by hoptoad »

citfta

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2018, 12:54:30 PM »


In summary :
Science is concerned with what, when and how.
Religion is concerned with whom and why.
Magic : is concerned with tricking/entertaining you for any purpose that suits the magician.

Of course, all of the above, is my subjective opinion.

I like your summary.  And you will note that there is nothing in it that makes either religion or science exclusionary of the other.  Most of the modern arguments against religion claim that religion and science are at odds with one another.  That is a ridiculous argument.  Science, as you have posted, looks at the how God created everything and how everything He created works.  What a lot of people don't know because of ignorance is that most of our modern scientific fields of study were actually started by men that had a strong belief in the Creator and wished to learn more about His creation.  That is a fact that can easily be verified with a little time and effort by anyone.

Respectfully,
Carroll

AlienGrey

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2018, 01:00:02 PM »
You speak that we need a correct translation. Well what does XX mean? What does "Whats not what I said or meant!" mean???  Maybe its you that needs correct translation, not the Bible. ::) I understand the Bible perfectly. You cannot change my mind on any of it. As Carrol said, God is the God of Abraham. Thats the answer Carrol and I give you. And Im sure there will be more from you on this, Call God what ever you want. Free will. Use it wisely.  ;) Our answer doesnt satisfy your needs then tough angel cookies. ;D Thats all we need to say. What? You wish to denigrate us over this? I read Brads post. I thought about a lot of it over the days its been up. And today I made a reply to just 1 of his arguments, which was number one on the list. I have the right to reply to his religious arguments, yet you say that we should not. And not only do you say that we should not, you go further with all the, 'You need to get your facts straight".  Snowflake effect is what I think it may be. You have been triggered and you will have none of this from us. Well too bad bud. Well little grey alien friend, we aint goin nowhere. ;) :D ;D :o

Oh. You say you didnt read Brads post?  You just 'followed' only me here to read what I have said, and never looked over the thread before? You didnt even look at Brads post that I 'quoted' right there in my post to figure out what I was replying to, and the only one you come at is me and not brad for talking about religion???????? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

I know what this is. Im not going to fill these pages with arguments with you. Seen it and done it many times here. I dont value your ideals you have presented so far to make those kinds of commitments of my time any longer. You dont want a debate. You want to bash and crush what we have in our beliefs. Not to change us. You dont want others to follow the right path and you will interfere with that and never ending. You are one of many here that dont believe in God and cant just leave the  ones that do alone about it. Its gotta be a big show for you. I know what you are. And I know some others here that you all would get along just fine together. Well why dont you just go and do that. ;) Because I for one am not further interested in what you have to present. I already know what it is. Im done. ;)

Mags
Mags what are you burbling on about with your venomous ramblings 'xx I HAVE A RIGHT TO REPLY xx' your good at manipulating and twisting stuff to try and prove your point in defense, irrespective if you right or wrong.
if i'm what you make out, get your king James reference book out and count how many times the word for the creators real name of. 'YWHW' or 'Elohim' is substituted with  'God ' how would you like it if i called you by some one else's name he is going to say get away from me I don't know you!
I you only looked on the net at factual documentary evidence you would realise what you are doing.

« Last Edit: April 09, 2018, 04:04:45 PM by AlienGrey »

onepower

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Re: It's been a hoot
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2018, 07:22:59 AM »
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That is a ridiculous argument.  Science, as you have posted, looks at the how God created everything and how everything He created works.

You may want to read this...https://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/whynot.html

This is how scientists conduct themselves and the intellectual arguments made are flawless. I think this should be mandatory reading in every school to teach the virtues of logic and reason.