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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 63182 times)

Offline r2fpl

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Hi r2fpl,


I was watching your video and can't understand what you are saying (not sure what language you are speaking). But one of the things I did notice is that the majority of the windings on your stator look burned out! They look dark and blackened where they come out of stator slots.


Maybe you can shoot a close-up video of the stator to confirm. From what I can see it almost certainly looks like they are burned out.


PmgR


Hi PmgR,

This is illusion like burned out. Colour enamel is deep. Wire is ok. This some resistance i checked again for confirm.

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pmgr

Hi pm.
I just finished my stator build and i measured my coils inductances. It is L=7.52mH per coil. Each coil (22 awg) is of a 22.5m length (73T) and this gives me a 1,1 Ohm resistance. The maximum frequency according the equation is about 25Hz. So i wonder if there is any trick that i can do so to raise the frequency up to 50Hz. Any idea?

Regards
Jeg

ps. In resistance calculator i measured just the ohmic resistance and not the reactance of the coil. Reactance at 7,52mH and 50Hz is 2.3 ohms. If i add it with the ohmic resistance then i am again in the right range. But is that a valid consideration?
Thanks

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Why no fields in this places ?

You must compare it with the video part 3 or 4 by Pierre

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Why no fields in this places ?

You must compare it with the video part 3 or 4 by Pierre

Can you give the time points (about) in these films Thanks. And how to see that flux is missing?

Regards  Arne

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Can you give the time points (about) in these films Thanks. And how to see that flux is missing?

Regards  Arne

you can see it almost any time
e.g.13:40 part 3

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you can see it almost any time
e.g.13:40 part 3
there's also a null on the opposite side... I thought it was only 2 gaps 180 degrees opposed; but I see the other near gap you're mentioning...
weak coils? 
The rotor is also in it; is it there, but lost into the pickup?

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pmgr

Hi pm.
I just finished my stator build and i measured my coils inductances. It is L=7.52mH per coil. Each coil (22 awg) is of a 22.5m length (73T) and this gives me a 1,1 Ohm resistance. The maximum frequency according the equation is about 25Hz. So i wonder if there is any trick that i can do so to raise the frequency up to 50Hz. Any idea?

Regards
Jeg

ps. In resistance calculator i measured just the ohmic resistance and not the reactance of the coil. Reactance at 7,52mH and 50Hz is 2.3 ohms. If i add it with the ohmic resistance then i am again in the right range. But is that a valid consideration?
Thanks
Hi Jeg,


You should measure the inductance with and without the rotor in place for each coil. You should see an increase in inductance the closer you get to the rotor, typically a factor of 4 compared to the minimum inductance when away from the rotor.


Pierre's relays are running at around 4Hz, so I don't think your numbers are going to be a problem.


PmgR

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Offline Jeg

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Hi Jeg,

You should measure the inductance with and without the rotor in place for each coil. You should see an increase in inductance the closer you get to the rotor, typically a factor of 4 compared to the minimum inductance when away from the rotor.

Pierre's relays are running at around 4Hz, so I don't think your numbers are going to be a problem.

PmgR

Hi Pm
Thanks for the suggestion. These days i will test the relay boards to take an idea for the consumption current. I'll report my findings as for a reference.

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Pierre,

Share your hard work with everyone. Explain how your generator works.
You will register in history and no one will be in front of you. Do not keep it secret!
There is too much evil that makes people slaves like energy.
Do not try to wait and improve something that is already there. It's a waste of life.
Just give it to people.

If you give us the recipe everyone will sign this DZ GENERATOR by PIERRE!

I think that not only I have this request.

« Last Edit: May 17, 2018, 06:09:25 PM by r2fpl »

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Pierre,

Share your hard work with everyone. Explain how your generator works.
You will register in history and no one will be in front of you. Do not keep it secret!
There is too much evil that makes people slaves like energy.
Do not try to wait and improve something that is already there. It's a waste of life.
Just give it to people.

If you give us the recipe everyone will sign this DZ GENERATOR by PIERRE!
I think that not only I have this request.







Amen.... ;D

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I just got inspiration (sorry for that, hate writing)

Agree, I can try to challenge him (IMHO, just in case)

Let say, we wind a coil like we thinks. Indeed, we calculate how many turns we need for input voltage and current
and how many we must have for output.
Than we start like everyone knows, 1 to 6 and 2 to 7 … 6-12 and then we stop and think. What we have done.
We were carefully thinking 6 and simultaneously thinking around to the end.
We realized where the strong are and where next one comes.
Then we find repetition pattern and winding a rest just enough to suit out calculation.

Bingo.

So far so good, but it appears that we need more turns for output, strange?
So we think again and find that 2+2+2 are equal 6. 2 is not a good number for strong one, why?
Because we split 50/50 and spread what we actuality wish to separate as best as possible.
So suddenly we see 9 
Apparently 3+3+3 are equal 9, ... wow this is good arrangement, 3 as a strong one. Why?
Let say 100 (We think X^2) and in correct geometry it end up with 9+81+9 instead 50+50.

Pierre you mentioned 4 poles did you tried? (Of course 6 between  ;))

We can go further,

We are for now only in 2D, we accomplish that and now we start thinking 3D.
Mowing in X-Y plane and thinking same in Z and then we realize something much bigger…… to be continued  ;D

Come on Pierre... ” We know that you know that we know”

d.

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Je sais que vous avez tous hâte d'avoir les détail du dz générateur mais pour l'instant j'aime mieux mettre mes efforts sur un deuxième prototype que passer mes soirée a répondre au question  cela n'est pas trop productif quand ce seras fait il me feras plaisir de tout vous expliquer en détail mais en attendant je continue à suivre vos idée et vos commentaire durant mes pause au travail et j'espère vous en mettre plein la vue avec la deuxième version du dz générateur mais je peut vous dite que cela prendras plusieurs mois a faire car il y a beaucoup de travail  avant que ce ne soit fonctionnel merci a tous de votre compréhension .            Pierre cotnoir

En. I know you're all looking forward to the details of the dz generator but for now I prefer to put my efforts in building the second prototype than to spend my evening answering questions, that wouldn't be productive. When I have it done I'll be happy to explain everything in detail but in the meantime I'll continue to follow your ideas and comments during my breaks at work and I hope you will be amazed with the second version of the dz generator but I can tell you it will take several months to complete because there's a lot of work to be done before it's functional.
Thank you all for your understanding. 
Pierre Cotnoir
« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 05:23:14 AM by gotoluc »

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Good to hear from you Pierre.   Best of luck on the 2nd prototype.                                                               

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Je sais que vous avez tous hâte d'avoir les détail du dz générateur mais pour l'instant j'aime mieux mettre mes efforts sur un deuxième prototype que passer mes soirée a répondre au question  cela n'est pas trop productif quand ce seras fait il me feras plaisir de tout vous expliquer en détail mais en attendant je continue à suivre vos idée et vos commentaire durant mes pause au travail et j'espère vous en mettre plein la vue avec la deuxième version du dz générateur mais je peut vous dite que cela prendras plusieurs mois a faire car il y a beaucoup de travail  avant que ce ne soit fonctionnel merci a tous de votre compréhension .            Pierre cotnoir

En. I know you're all looking forward to the details of the dz generator but for now I prefer to put my efforts in building the second prototype than to spend my evening answering questions, that wouldn't be productive. When I have it done I'll be happy to explain everything in detail but in the meantime I'll continue to follow your ideas and comments during my breaks at work and I hope you will be amazed with the second version of the dz generator but I can tell you it will take several months to complete because there's a lot of work to be done before it's functional.
Thank you all for your understanding. 
Pierre Cotnoir
Wish you would make videos again and a step-by-step build guide.         Fr. Je souhaite que vous fassiez à nouveau des vidéos et un guide de construction étape par étape.

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« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 11:43:08 PM by gotoluc »

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Je sais que vous avez tous hâte d'avoir les détail du dz générateur mais pour l'instant j'aime mieux mettre mes efforts sur un deuxième prototype que passer mes soirée a répondre au question  cela n'est pas trop productif quand ce seras fait il me feras plaisir de tout vous expliquer en détail mais en attendant je continue à suivre vos idée et vos commentaire durant mes pause au travail et j'espère vous en mettre plein la vue avec la deuxième version du dz générateur mais je peut vous dite que cela prendras plusieurs mois a faire car il y a beaucoup de travail  avant que ce ne soit fonctionnel merci a tous de votre compréhension .            Pierre cotnoir
Hi Pierre,

As you are doing second prototype maybe you could help and answer one main question?
When you activate 1 coil, the opposite current flow over rest of 35 coils is requirement for effect to happen or not wanted? That dictates electronics circuit design and coils driving.
Please see my picture attached with 4 coils test and 1st coil activated.

P.S> The opposite current flow creates bucking magnetic fields which cancel out each other. And I have impression most of guys here have that exact problem.

Cheers!

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