Cookies-law

Cookies help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
http://www.overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please leave this website now. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 82437
  • *Latest: joyclark

  • *Total Posts: 499678
  • *Total Topics: 14716
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 4
  • *Guests: 203
  • *Total: 207

Facebook

Author Topic: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses  (Read 3141 times)

Offline Magluvin

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
Im bringing this Idea to its own thread.

Here I am going to state a rule for this thread. Any posts that are made to put down mine and others efforts here on this subject will be deleted. No warnings. If someone wants to dispute any of the claims here without proof of their counter claims or degrading statements towards me and or others here in this thread, then make your own counter thread for such because I will delete them. If you dont like it tough luck and make your own threads for such.  Bruce TPU can do it, then so can I.

I will be reposting the link to my vid thus far and other things I have posted in the Inductive Kickback thread here later this evening. While I have the setup still on the bench, Im going to do some vids on other things I have found so far with this setup that I have found interesting.

Be back later

Mags



Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3225
Im bringing this Idea to its own thread.

Here I am going to state a rule for this thread. Any posts that are made to put down mine and others efforts here on this subject will be deleted. No warnings. If someone wants to dispute any of the claims here without proof of their counter claims or degrading statements towards me and or others here in this thread, then make your own counter thread for such because I will delete them. If you dont like it tough luck and make your own threads for such.  Bruce TPU can do it, then so can I.

I will be reposting the link to my vid thus far and other things I have posted in the Inductive Kickback thread here later this evening. While I have the setup still on the bench, Im going to do some vids on other things I have found so far with this setup that I have found interesting.

Be back later

Mags

@Magluvin,

Good move! Tinselkoala has returned.. I believe you helped me discover a new kind of generator that exhibits gain.  You currently have the upper hand. Maybe now we can move forward with some constructive results without the chronic parasitic trolling.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2018, 09:43:58 PM by Magluvin »

Offline AlienGrey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1859
Im bringing this Idea to its own thread.

Here I am going to state a rule for this thread. Any posts that are made to put down mine and others efforts here on this subject will be deleted. No warnings. If someone wants to dispute any of the claims here without proof of their counter claims or degrading statements towards me and or others here in this thread, then make your own counter thread for such because I will delete them. If you dont like it tough luck and make your own threads for such.  Bruce TPU can do it, then so can I.

I will be reposting the link to my vid thus far and other things I have posted in the Inductive Kickback thread here later this evening. While I have the setup still on the bench, Im going to do some vids on other things I have found so far with this setup that I have found interesting.

Be back later

Mags
Any chance you can define BIFILAR' before you start ?

 Only i have seen Caduceus coils, bucking coils, and above all a GRENADE coil referred to as bifilar on these treads which it has none as such.
AG

Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3225
Quote from Vladimir Utkin on the Tesla pancake series connected bifilar coil:

"For the best charging of the natural self-capacitance of the coil, you have to use electric pulses which are as short as possible, because the displacement current as shown in Maxwell’s equation, depends to a major degree on the speed of the change in the magnetic field".

The capacitive energy stored in such a bifilar wound coil will be ~ E2 = 1/2 C V^2, or 1/2 C (50 ^2). Or 250,000 times greater than the single wire wound coil of the same inductance".

Having the capacitance and charging the capacitance are two different things. You need to CHARGE this bifilar coil for it to reach it's full potential. Just running constant current through it the way TK does, will not charge it's innate capacitance.




We can't charge serial bifilar coils like we do capacitors! "You have to use electric pulses"
« Last Edit: March 08, 2018, 12:40:59 AM by Magluvin »

Offline ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6182
.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2018, 11:09:32 PM by ramset »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Sponsored links:




Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3225
Just a quick note

The behavior of Synchro here is Not inline with the outlined mission statement from Mags above
also
   Mags has a very busy working life and cannot babysit this thread.


he mentioned he will discuss this with Synchro ............


Stefan does not allow Flame wars here anymore.
nor running around with cans of gas and matches trying to start one .

no need to go backwards to move forward.

repeatable.. verifiable  experiments/results  [once claims are actually made , claims which as of now are still evolving
and not definitive.. 

respectfully
Chet K
PS
Mags please delete this post when you have time...

@Ramset,

I managed to loosen my reed switch contacts and capture the piston oscillation on video. I'm uploading it now.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2018, 09:40:52 PM by Magluvin »

Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3225
Here it is. Thanks to a stroke of genius from Magluvin. This is a high water mark video. I can explain everything. What we're looking at is a new type of generator that exhibits gain: This constitutes a "Current Amplifier"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hMmJlc6emw


Remember; You can't charge Tesla serial bifilar coils with constant current like we do capacitors. You have to use "Electric Pulses".
« Last Edit: March 06, 2018, 09:39:18 PM by Magluvin »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Sponsored links:




Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3225
I calculated the L C frequency for the 75 mH coil and the 70 micro henry capacitor and arrived at 70 Hertz. The R.P.M. is 3333. Raising the voltage a little would raise the R.P.M to the 4200 needed for the system to lock into resonance. This should strengthen the power of the oscillation. 

Offline sm0ky2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3038
Good job Mags


Now we’re actually looking at the real issue
it’s not the coil
it’s the interactions


what the coil is doing is just the bi-product
I’ll try to do this short, simple, and so you don’t have to
be an engineer to get the gist of it.




every coil has a length
and the way it is coiled has an impedance
and together these define the length of time
it takes for the signal to get from one end to the other


this situation defines an “ideal frequency” at which to observe
the discussed effect. (and subsequent harmonics, etc)


at a resonant frequency, the coil can act as an antenna of sorts
and absorb energy from the surroundings, at those frequencies.


And by careful analysis, we can identify the sources
terrestrial, Terrestrial, or astronomical


This is a path that can only be walked down.
Many have tried to “guide” the blind, many of those being blinded themselves
and the ones that can see, are ridiculed, objected to,


Some have spent lifetimes fighting that battle, others are still soldiering on.


It’s simple, yet clouded by decades of indoctrination
Tesla was one of the few that were taken seriously on the subject
But not many understood what he was saying



Offline Magluvin

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
Ok, just got off work and I have a few hours of things I need to get done at my shop before I can do more here.

Firstly, Syncro, you can post here but you need to tone it down on any bashing of TK or anyone else, actually you probably need to cut it out all together. I recommend this in any thread. You were on moderation before and its not a pleasant position to be in, as I know, I was on that once before. I am going to edit your posts to get rid of the rhetoric only.  Im getting messages about this and I said I would handle it this way. So just chill and just stay on topic.  Im not the one that would be putting you on moderation. But you are getting close to being there if you keep it up.  Ok? Cool? ;)

Tk had commented on my vid and has a valid point for me to try and show. I will be putting a cap across the single wire coil and try the same tests. Naturally the added cap will take on the inductive kickback and very likely go into oscillation with the coil just like the bifi.  It still doesnt take anything away from the comparison tests as it was just to show the not well known effect I had shown of the bifi coil. I found it unique and maybe it will be useful in some ways.
The 'normal coil', with the cap added, will naturally reject the kickback spike and the added cap will take on the kickback spike. The bifilar coil on the other hand will be taking on the spike as a whole to charge its capacitance. Meaning the spike will have to go through the bifi windings to charge the self capacitance, which is not really the same scenario as the normal coil with the added cap.  So we will look at that closer this evening.

Also I am going to have a chat with Erfinder on trying to show some things that he had brought to light for me on this bifi subject and see if we can bring that here also.

Be back later

Mags


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Sponsored links:




Offline Magluvin

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
Re: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2018, 09:46:18 PM »
Any chance you can define BIFILAR' before you start ?

 Only i have seen Caduceus coils, bucking coils, and above all a GRENADE coil referred to as bifilar on these treads which it has none as such.
AG

http://www.tfcbooks.com/patents/0512340.htm

Mags

Offline Magluvin

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
Re: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 09:16:58 AM »
I was ready to go home and found I forgot to charge my bike.  So I went back to the bench an fiddled.  I made some changes that solved an issue or 2.

I changed the pickup coil to the coil I was using as the kicker. The other coil was the reason for the blobbing and the lower chop in the bifi and the crap really screwing with the single coil with the cap. So that is solved. And using the large inductor for the kicker got rid of the interaction of the kicker coil and the test coils., at least as far as I can see.  It all came together in a short period of time. Speaking of time, Im not going nowhere for a bit so I did a vid of what I found that shows some significant differences between the bifi coil and the normal coil with a capacitor, tuned as close as possible to the bifi resonant freq.

I cover the push button switch also.

https://youtu.be/bu6aNl6AL5I

Mags

Offline Magluvin

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
Re: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2018, 09:22:17 AM »
These are shots showing the issues I had before fixing them as said in my last post

Mags

Offline hoptoad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1009
Re: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2018, 09:44:34 AM »
I was ready to go home and found I forgot to charge my bike.
snip....

https://youtu.be/bu6aNl6AL5I
Mags
Glad you forgot to charge your bike.  :P
Nice straight forward presentation. Interesting results. Thanks for sharing. ;)
Cheers

Offline Magluvin

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
Re: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 09:57:41 AM »
Just for giggles, I tried each coil with the pickup coil to the face of the coil being tested. The voltage difference is substantial. Shots below.

Ya know, back some years, Luc was testing some bifilar coils and I had suggested the possibility of the bifi coil might perform better with higher voltages. i have to remember what led me to that. But he said it didnt help.  I dont remember if he was comparing a regular coil like I am here.  But it sure does look like things are going that way.

Mags

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Experiments On The Bifilar Coils Ability To Take In Electrical Impulses
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 09:57:41 AM »

 

Share this topic to your favourite Social and Bookmark site

Please SHARE this topic at:


OneLink