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postingsite

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Successfully looped SMOT
« on: January 24, 2018, 03:58:00 AM »
UPDATE  I have now replaced the non-functioning youtube link with one that functions

Maybe not everyone has seen this

9 SMOTs in a circle, looping successfully .

https://youtu.be/nSQYjrLBMG4

Mentioned on wikipedia  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Magnetic_Overunity_Toy

Another high-profile site still claims that no magnet-motor device has ever successfully functioned.

I don't know what the consensus is on this site,  but I know that a looped SMOT is not mentioned on this site.




Void

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2018, 04:23:26 AM »
Hi postingsite. When I try to view the Youtube video I get the following error message:
"This video is unavailable."
Are you still able to watch the video?

All the best...

postingsite

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2018, 04:40:44 AM »
Hi postingsite. When I try to view the Youtube video I get the following error message:
"This video is unavailable."
Are you still able to watch the video?

All the best...

I have now replaced the non-functioning youtube link with one that functions

https://youtu.be/nSQYjrLBMG4

TinselKoala

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2018, 07:53:21 AM »

Newton II

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2018, 08:18:01 AM »
I have now replaced the non-functioning youtube link with one that functions

https://youtu.be/nSQYjrLBMG4

How that ball is moving?  Is there any moving magnetic field at the bottom? If not, that ball will simply stick to exposed end of  magnet track.

TinselKoala

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 09:55:17 AM »

blueplanet

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2018, 10:18:40 AM »

Newton II

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 10:54:39 AM »
You don't believe ?!?!    :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYxEIyNA_mk

Nice clip.  I feel a joker's job is better than a preacher's job because at least he will not be suspended from a pole with nails hammered on his hands and legs.  Bad people!


Newton II

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2018, 11:13:33 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FmFMA8TlL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VN6KWM8Rbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJZDPO5VRxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9BsOW6P7QM

In all the above videos the ball is moving in only a part ramp or incomplete loop hence the ball is getting initial acceleration when placed at a distance from the magnet ramp because it attracted towards the magnet.  when the loop is completed,  you don't get that  distance or gap for initial acceleration of the ball because it is pulled in both directions, front and back by front and preceding ramp magnets hence the ball cannot gain enough acceleration or kinetic energy to complete the loop.

Have a look at this video.   Why is it not possible to complete the loop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AWWfwtaYT4

seaad

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2018, 12:53:23 PM »
What happens if we add more RED magnets?? See pic!

Regards / Arne

blueplanet

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 12:54:49 PM »
In all the above videos the ball is moving in only a part ramp or incomplete loop hence the ball is getting initial acceleration when placed at a distance from the magnet ramp because it attracted towards the magnet.  when the loop is completed,  you don't get that  distance or gap for initial acceleration of the ball because it is pulled in both directions, front and back by front and preceding ramp magnets hence the ball cannot gain enough acceleration or kinetic energy to complete the loop.

Have a look at this video.   Why is it not possible to complete the loop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AWWfwtaYT4




I have not done this experiment, nor am i an expert on magnetic motor. I cannot say for sure if it can complete the whole loop. [size=78%]My posts were about the sticky spots. According to the third video which I have posted, it seems that the sticky spot can be somehow overcome by the mass rather than the velocity.[/size]
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[size=78%]About twenty five years ago, JNL demonstrated an SMOT experiment involving quite a few ramps. I could not remember how much initial force he had applied to the steel ball. Perhaps, he is a better person to explain this phenomenon.[/size]

Newton II

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 02:00:10 PM »
What happens if we add more RED magnets?? See pic!

Regards / Arne

If length of magnets on left side is more than on right side (as you have shown red magnets)  the ball will not fall down at all.  It is same as pulling water from drum using a tube by sucking air from the tube.    If the end of  tube is below the water level in drum,  only then water falls continuously from the tube,  if not water flow will stop.

Somebody has tried  to replicate it (mentioned in that video comment,  you might have seen that).  At last attempt when he fills up all the magnets,  the ball is not falling down at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_nRnokubC4

seaad

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 03:22:06 PM »
Thanks Newton II !  /Arne

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 04:04:48 PM »
There is no video, instruction set, or physical model that will convince people.


Many people have it set in their mind that this type of thing is “impossible”.
For all sorts of reasons and logical fallacies.


The truth is, magnetic theory does not deal with field compression.
There is no scientific foundation when it comes to magnets, by which we
can prove “impossibility” to exist. But....


Unless the military declassifies the Lockheed-Martin Hojo turbine,
Or Ken Wheeler gets his shit together and writes a communicable theory...
Not many people will take a serious look at these things.


Any of us that demonstrate a magnetic system performing work
Will be questioned, refuted, accused of hoaxary, cyber bullied, or worse.


It doesn’t matter if the experimentor is Clanzer or Mylow, myself, or the many others who
have tried to share these things.
If people don’t believe, you can’t change their minds very easily.


For those of us who know better, there is no question of “possibility”, we already know it’s possible.


Notice the function of the green tabs.
Why are they there?
What do they do?
What happens without them?


In a single smot? In a double smot? Chain of 3?
Or a loop of nine.


There’s a simple solution:
Build one, and keep trying until you get yours to work.
Or
Be a horse. and we can have a horse parade shouting “nay nay” with no logical defense,
except that our religious leaders told us this is impossible, so it must be.....


TinselKoala

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2018, 04:13:06 PM »
Surely you know that clanzer never claimed to have a working SMOT, and that Mylow was an obvious, confessed and cynical hoaxer.

By all means sm0ky2, do "Build one, and keep trying until you get yours to work."  At least it will keep you off the streets. Let's see you back up your claims with a video of your working SMOT.



The green tabs are there to keep the ball from exiting the loop altogether by falling through the gaps between the "magnets" of successive stages.

I guess the fact that the video was made and posted by someone who deliberately makes faked videos trying to get them to go viral doesn't mean anything to you.



Maybe you'd like to order some Chinese antigravity spray from Ebay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNCAYbh55Dg