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Offline synchro1

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2018, 05:30:09 PM »
Where do those red wires go to?
Just your DMM? Or to an SG?
Or?

@smOky2,

The red wires are not connected to anything during the capture of the video; However, they were hooked up to a 12 volt D.C power source shortly before the oscillation started. The coil is wired serial bifilar with a cold molded high perm ferrite core. This video is one of a series where I demonstrate the magnetization of a bifilar core through the power of resonance. The coil is ringing and generating a magnetic field in the ferrite core spontaneously. I believe this effect is powering the perpetual pendulum motion in the overhead pile of permanent magnets.

I spent years discussing this effect with Tinselkoala and Milehigh on the "Bifilar coil as Electromagnet" threads here on the Overunity site, starting with the twice the Trombone paperclip magnet strength pickup video.

In fairness to Tinselkoala, the "Infinity Loop" video producer has at least two glaring hoax videos in his repertory.






 

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2018, 12:58:23 PM »



Very well done. The hateful loud mouth will have a hard time in swallowing this result.


This is an obvious proof that the inertia itself can overcome the sticky spots.  The inertia is dependent on the mass and magnetic force.


He already saw this and much more, that me and many others were doing
Like I said, this all happen 10 yrs ago.
To the extent that the company making those magnets started mass production again
And when we stopped buying them for experiments, they went bankrupt
Now the toy stores just have cheap Chinese knock-offs, which basically suck for HJ’s


May be some back stock somewhere
There’s some neo cylinders that do the job as an alternative






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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2018, 01:04:57 PM »
@smOky2,

The red wires are not connected to anything during the capture of the video; However, they were hooked up to a 12 volt D.C power source shortly before the oscillation started. The coil is wired serial bifilar with a cold molded high perm ferrite core. This video is one of a series where I demonstrate the magnetization of a bifilar core through the power of resonance. The coil is ringing and generating a magnetic field in the ferrite core spontaneously. I believe this effect is powering the perpetual pendulum motion in the overhead pile of permanent magnets.

I spent years discussing this effect with Tinselkoala and Milehigh on the "Bifilar coil as Electromagnet" threads here on the Overunity site, starting with the twice the Trombone paperclip magnet strength pickup video.

In fairness to Tinselkoala, the "Infinity Loop" video producer has at least two glaring hoax videos in his repertory.


So the coil is ‘open circuit’?


I couldn’t sleep a couple nights ago, so I made a triple transformer
Center coil is 6x bifilar in series across a capacitor
so the center coil acts in place of the ferrite
then the inner/outer coils act as the primary/ secondary


I may do some experiments with your gizmo
got plenty of balls and magnets
not the right kind for HJ gates,
But I can definitely work up several of what you show here
In a variety of sizes

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2018, 01:27:38 PM »
@Synch


When we were playing with the tri-force we learned a lot about
how the fields interact within the steel ball


arrangements of 2 or more magnets at varying angles
changes the field lines through the steel and when saturated, outside it
resulting in an infinite configuration of field effects ranging from a
‘checkerboard’ of n/s to a single polarity magnetic laser that reaches meters


two at 45-degrees cross/crosses with a field division in the center of the ball
center of magnetism runs 90 degrees
and center of poles are at 135
(simplest arrangement, and the one used in the tri-force)


You can follow it graphically if you think about how the fields would be
if the ball wasn’t there, the fields take a sort of parabolic curve as they
are drawn n to s through the air.
add the ball : the “field lines” would sort of truncate to pi
through the steel ball
polarity interchanges will always have a perpendicular apex
Regardless of how many there are, up to a point where we can fit
no more magnets on our ball
and the polar vectors are the difference in angle






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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2018, 02:20:26 PM »

So the coil is ‘open circuit’?


I couldn’t sleep a couple nights ago, so I made a triple transformer
Center coil is 6x bifilar in series across a capacitor
so the center coil acts in place of the ferrite
then the inner/outer coils act as the primary/ secondary


I may do some experiments with your gizmo
got plenty of balls and magnets
not the right kind for HJ gates,
But I can definitely work up several of what you show here
In a variety of sizes


@smOky2,

This area of experimentation is off topic for the SMOT thread. Perhaps we should open a new one? Generally, we're dealing with The "Tesla Bifilar for Electromagnets". This topic has filled the Overunity site with numerous, lengthy threads that have generated a lot of controversy. I personally have uploaded thousands of comments on Tesla's patent.

Conradelectro asked the same question of me several years ago; How can the bifilar coil store energy when the coil is an open circuit?  Tesla discovered the effect of magnetizing a ferrite core with bifilar resonance. Properly wound, the Tesla bifilar coil can go into self resonance spontaneously. Each coil wire loop can store a magnetic field.

Imagine two single circle wire hoops placed upright facing each other; Let's say we tap a tuning fork and touch it to one of the  unattached hoops. The second wire hoop will begin to vibrate at the same frequency as the tuning fork, even though there's no connection between the wires. This effect is analogous to electro-magnetic induction.

Let's say we disconnect the ends of the hoops so we have an open ended one loop wire spiral on each side and again touch one spiral with the tuning fork. We can easily imagine the vibration once again re-appearing in the adjacent open ended wire spiral.     

The very important point I'm making is that a copper wire turn can store a magnetic field without any physical connection between the conductor ends. A naturally occuring oscillation can spontaneously appear between the wire turns of a bifilar coil alone.

It's not hard to understand how the subtle oscillation of magnetic fields between coil wire loops can begin to align magnetic domains in a ferrite core. We can build a coil this way, just set it aside, and the wraps can attract a sufficient charge from the electric field in the environment, to start a magnetic resonance that begins to show up as a permanent magnetic force in the ferrite core.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 04:48:38 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2018, 01:15:35 PM »
thank you for the description
I agree it’s not exactly a “smot”, though it is a
self-initiated motion of permanent magnets.
(if that’s what we are really seeing in the video)


and because the action is derived from induction
through a ferrous sphere, there may be interrelated
content.


interesting none the less
(by the way, how long did it continue oscillation?)






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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2018, 02:14:33 PM »
@smOky2,

I was dismantling a test setup when the magnets collapsed in on themselves as they appear in the video. I turned my attention to a different job then noticed the mysterious back and forth rocking motion. I watched it for at least a couple of hours before I picked the camera up to record it, then I set the camera up for a timed video and the battery ran out while it continued rocking and I lost the video. I finally got tired of it and took it down.

I didn't seek the effect. However, I realized what was most likely happening and supplied the explanation afterwards. I really can't be sure my explanation is the correct one, but I think it's the most highly probable. Recreating the effect would represent a demonstration of over unity and would be worthwhile to try and replicate. It could be simple or turn into a dead end series of frustrating non accomplishments.

Maybe it's O.K. to keep it here on the SMOT thread as you pointed out "Induction through a ferrous sphere". This is your call.

I wrapped a six inch ferrite rod with a permeability of 1000 from (Lasersaber's JT 3) with 2 coils side by side one bifilar series connected and the other single wire to run tests. I "Snap" charged" both coils to make them ring. I measured the coils for Ohmic resistance. I would start there. After ringing the bifilar, the resonant oscillation began to magnetize the ferrite and the Ohmic resistance began to rise in the bifilar coil; It rises, then the ferrite relinquishes it's field and the Ohm's begin to drop. I tried to measure the field with a reed switch and magnetometer but got no results.

It wasn't until after I noticed this effect that I applied the theory, but formerly I couldn't achieve it by trying. It would amount to a break through if someone could succeed at it from the outset with controlled apparatus. This would amount to a motor powered by resonance; Something viewed as impossible and in violation of the second law etc. Naturally your tri-gate videos defy that one anyway.   

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2018, 02:21:37 PM »
That brings me to the next point of discussion


If you haven’t figured it out yet from the path I’ve been
walking us down, the reason I have shown the comparisons
is to prove to you that magnetism is magnetism.
regardless of the source or form it appears in.


How we choose to create the magnetic field determines its strength
but a field produces by electrical current, or molten metal, or a magnet,
or that which comes forth from a paramagnetic material under an
inducing field : is all the same thing.


now, in my last video I show two diagrams of our SMoT
and give you a little hint of where the “free energy” in this device
actually comes from.


I did this, to introduce everyone to the concept while avoiding most
of the common conjecture and speculation surrounding these devices.
And I tried to do this in a manner in which anyone with a few magnets
can do themselves.




And I have shown you that the “magnet” formed by the steel ball
(except for its strength) is the same field effects as using a permanent
magnet in its’ place.
Doing so intensifies a secondary field effect which is imperceptible in
the SMoT, but can be proven to exist. I showed this in the HJ diagram.
But we can skip that until the final energy analysis, as it is a matter of
efficiency.


The SMoT generally utilizes a difference in field intensity to cause acceleration
I have proven that the force exists without this
and that the change in field intensity affects only velocity.
But that the force is a function of a change in polarity.
To or from the magnetic meridian.


And that the SMOT and the inverted SMOT do this.
And that the HJ linear gate is both of these (mirror)


now, the HJ will cause motion of a ferrite, (such as the SMoT ball)
however, induction decreases with a decrease in distance from the meridian.
This is the center of magnetism, where exists a perpendicular polarity reversal.
(diamagnetic inertial plane, as Ken Wheeler calls it)
As the ball approaches the magnetic meridian, induction drops to zero.
This causes an area where the ball can rest with no or little force on it.
In short, it will sometimes (seemingly random) stop at the meridian.
And so in the HJ, we use a permanent magnet, so that the rotor-field always
exists, and produces constant force.
This is a similar theology to how we use the 3-phase induction motor.
In fact, the complete HJ rotary engine is magnetically synonymous.


The problem we  encounter when forming a loop is a problem of magnetic symmetry.
To bring the gate around unto itself, changes the aspects of the magnetic meridian.
(which is why the ball on the string is interesting to us here)


The field always forms a loop. Any way it can
N goes to S and S goes to N
They are equal and opposite and caused by two particle interactions, one of which
many here are familiar with. But that discussion is for another thread.


Well just say, there is an “invisible force” that wants to go to the opposite “invisible force”


when a symmetrical loop is formed (field symmetry comes in many forms)
the perpendicular magnetic meridian solidifies into a finite plane.
In effect, we narrow our field division to something intangible.
a blip in space, it was north, now its south.


This is why many people fail.
What Howard Johnson teaches us, is to break this symmetry
and the easiest way to do so, is to insert an opposing magnet (repulsion)
to expand and contract portions of the field loop, to unstabalize the meridian.
and we do this at the point(s) of least magnetic resistance.
Or, as I called it in the video, the area of lowest magnetic potential.


Your homework, is now to study HJ’s “Stonehenge Lazy Susan”
Keeping in mind what I have shown you.
Once you understand this, you can easily see how his advanced linear track works.
And from there, the real motor is engineerable.


But as it comes to looping a SMT, or any other magnetic gate array
We can use the manipulation of the magnetic meridian to maintain constant force.
Eliminating the “dead zones” in a looped array.


When two magnets approach in repulsion, a meridian exists and the space on either side
of this artificial meridian forms two di-poles in space.
they are compressed with a decrease in distance of the two permanent magnets.
As the magnets approach each other, the dipoles are confined to a finite plane
With an extremely intense perpendicular meridian, and intense polarity interchange.
It’s spatial conditions limit our perceptibly of these effects, but this can be proven
through experiment.


It is this change in polarity that I show in my video
With the two rectangular magnets and the ball,
That is the driving force of the magnetic gate.
The effects of which are a function of nature,
and of the universe as a whole.
Without which, we can no more define energy
than to ridiculously proclaim that it requires a place to originate from.
It is not “energy” that we are creating, but we are utilizing the forces of nature.
That precede our theories of energy.


Maxwell is difficult to fully understand (I’m still working on it myself)
But the work he did is invaluable to our understanding of the universe,
and nothing he stated should be discounted at first glance,
even the parts that seemingly manifest “overunity” situations.


A magnetic field, in an of itself, is energy infintatum
The problems we have in using magnetic fields are due to
our own mechanisms.


I’ll let you guys ferment for a bit while I work on this next demonstration


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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2018, 08:05:27 PM »
There is only one demonstration that you should present... a successfully self-looping SMOT. But we already know that you cannot.

Because there is no such thing as a SMOT.

 :'(

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2018, 09:14:14 PM »
   Anyone trying to make a successfully looping SMOT,  try to also film under the table,  or use a transparent table or something.

   I have always thought that there's much easier( and maybe cheaper ) ways of making a successfully looping SMOT( if it's possible ),      i.e.  :   
      -  by using a  transparent-plastic-hose  in which the ball would run, 
      -  and maybe the number of magnets required could be reduced ,  by only having one magnet above the transparent-plastic-hose( at the end of the SMOT ) to propel the ball,  or even having it only on one side of the transparent-plastic-hose

   I also think it should be possible to loop a single ( but maybe powerful ) SMOT( or similar device ).

   

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2018, 11:22:10 PM »
   Anyone trying to make a successfully looping SMOT,  try to also film under the table,  or use a transparent table or something.

   I have always thought that there's much easier( and maybe cheaper ) ways of making a successfully looping SMOT( if it's possible ),      i.e.  :   
      -  by using a  transparent-plastic-hose  in which the ball would run, 
      -  and maybe the number of magnets required could be reduced ,  by only having one magnet above the transparent-plastic-hose( at the end of the SMOT ) to propel the ball,  or even having it only on one side of the transparent-plastic-hose

   I also think it should be possible to loop a single ( but maybe powerful ) SMOT( or similar device ).

Here's the "Abandon all Hope" video from ViralVideoLab:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0PFA9WrHWE

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2018, 11:24:24 PM »
well
if anyone can figure a way to get a magnet back into the gate with gain

Sm0ky2 can.

but I agree... as of this moment
there's no such thing as a SMOT or simple magnetic over unity toy.

Plenty have tried .

does this mean Smoky2 will be famous ??

I certainly hope so !!

I do recall a time when he did have some very good results with another type of array
but it was not repeatable at the time...

« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 08:56:48 AM by ramset »

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #72 on: February 14, 2018, 02:53:40 AM »
There is only one demonstration that you should present... a successfully self-looping SMOT. But we already know that you cannot.

Because there is no such thing as a SMOT.

 :'(


I also prefer to call it the SMT.


yes I “should” just do that, but then it would just be you me and my cheeseburger


I have to do this the way that I am,
because when people understand how this technology works
They can build it themselves by any design they choose.


no one has to “look under the table”
because anyone with a few magnets can go “look there it is”


if anything I have said this far, or anything I have shown is unclear
feel free to ask me to do it in a more receivable manner, or to explain anything
in more detail if is needed.


If not


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamagnetism


this is overview of a little trick HJ taught people before I was born.


If it’s not real, why does it still need classification?
Why can’t I tell you what you really need to know?


It doesn’t matter, because we will work right around the laws
and I will teach you how to engineer your own things based on the root
not on a specific patent or secret schematic


When we examine the SMT in a frozen state during transition
with sensitive instruments, we can detect the artificial meridian
in the steel ball. And the same can be done in free space.
and the dipoles induced in the ball, change polarity twice at this meridian.
N| s-(s):n-(n) |(S)
The ball being the lowercase and the caps are the stator fields
The field induced by the N is s-n
The field induced by the (S) is (n)-(s)
The main meridian is stronger :
the sub meridians - and - are compressed (repulsion)
These are along a plane perpendicular to the inducing field
with respect to each individual stator magnet in the effective field range.


The actual field extends into the infinite realm of our universe
With ever decreasing intensity.
But for our purposes, the effective field is whatever is required to move the rotor
In our case, a steel sphere of random size, mass, density...


In the center of the steel ball is where the : artificial meridian tends to occur
(may actually vary depending on precision)
we have shown that the induced field doesn’t need to rotate
But the rolling ball gives us a vectorable momentum we can use to assist
in a beneficial angular displacement away from the field.


And we have seen that the induced field is the same as having 2 adjacent magnets
(or the two-force made from the cheap Chinese knockoffs)
and the same as the HJ gate.
and we can build a SMT using a spherical magnet just the same


we can widen the rotor and narrow the track distance
and the SMT is the same inside out
with the stator magnets on an inner track
and the rotor magnet-ends outside the track
and we have the same situation


We can also place the ball on a cart, or I don’t know... maybe a toy fire truck??
and the wheels will perform a similar benefit to what the rolling ball does for us


Or on a wheel that spins
but the wheel that spins has a pi issue
unless the wheel is huge or magnets tiny


So we have a few options with a smot,
We can have a car go around a track
Or a ball go around a track


We can go uphill and roll back down to the beginning
or continue on to another track, then another
until we get back to the first


Or we can use the momentum of the ball to activate a mechanism
that moves it to the beginning


there’s nothing secret about the number 9,
We could just as simply have a loop of 2, or a loop of 49


But in general, the more field interactions you have to work through
the more problems you will encounter.
you must avoid field symmetry in the loop
or you lose the function.












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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2018, 12:13:01 PM »
This is your intellectual property, not theirs.
If you don't protect it, i fear that it would be treated as a scam rather than as intellectual property.





I also prefer to call it the SMT.


yes I “should” just do that, but then it would just be you me and my cheeseburger


....

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Re: Successfully looped SMOT
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2018, 12:29:01 PM »
It is Not my property
Intellectual or otherwise


I didn’t invent this
I spent a lifetime learning it from those that came before me


It’s a long list and they were all treated like scammers


But they all proved the same basic magnetic functions
that I have shown you.

James Maxwell
Howard Johnson
John Searl
David Hamel (pay no attention to the ufos)
Greg Watson
Ken Wheeler

It’s all the same thing
Science does not provide an understanding of magnetism
Maxwell did, but no one understands it, even Einstein needed
help.


There may only be one person alive right now that fully gets it
https://archive.org/details/magnetism1small


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