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Author Topic: Claimed 'Free Energy Self Running Magnet Motor' for sale from company in India  (Read 10186 times)

Void

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Not sure if this has been posted here before or not, but I came across this
listing of a company in India that claims to be selling 'Free Energy Self Running Magnet Motors'.

I sent this info to justawatt here, as I think he said previously he is India. Maybe he can
look into it and find more details about it. Of course any claim like this is always quite a long shot,
but maybe justawatt can find out more info if he is interested in looking into it.

Here's the blurb from the web listing:
"Free Energy Self Running Magnet Motor
Country:          India
Brand Name:   HUMSER TRADERS

Product Description
We are leading distributor, trader and supplier of Free Energy Self Running Magnet Motor in Ludhiana, Punjab, India.
Free energy self running magnet motor is most powerful device.
Motor rpm is 3500.
Running power is 3.5 kw.
No fuel no pollution no noise. Available in best market price."

Free Energy Self Running Magnet Motor
https://www.tradeindia.com/fp3265357/Free-Energy-Self-Running-Magnet-Motor.html

Here is some more info about the company, including contact info:
https://humsertraders.nowfloats.com/

https://www.facebook.com/humsertraders/


Void

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Maybe this magnet motor device is related to the one from a few years ago by a person named 'Wasif Kahloon'?
See:
'Free Energy ??? - Fact or Fake ? Wasif Kahloon showing selfrunning magnet motor'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yodY1jH5j-I



justawatt

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hi void
yes i am from india ,but from south India(kerala) ,he is from North India very from my place .

I dont speak his language, i have left a message on his phone number waiting for his reply.
I have send him this page link and have asked him to come to this fourm

Void

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hi void
yes i am from india ,but from south India(kerala) ,he is from North India very from my place .

I dont speak his language, i have left a message on his phone number waiting for his reply.
I have send him this page link and have asked him to come to this fourm


Hi justawatt. Ok on you being far away from where those guys are located.
Thanks for the follow-up!

P.S. I thought besides their local dialect most people in India speak Hindi and many speak English as well?

All the best...

ramset

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Void

we have plenty of members all over India that could go and visit, I did not see a contact number?[without some exchange of info??]

we just have to cover their expenses [gas lodging and such ,which we can do..

it has been my experience these offers dry up when we ask about visits ?
and specifically Local persons who volunteer to go and look for the forums...[with help from trained persons /measurement experts via phone contact or internet]

and to be clear these offers are done in venues just like this , dedicated thread for all to see.

??
I will gladly make the calls if you get a contact number...

respectfully
Chet





Void

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Hi Ramset. Thanks. I did post a link to a web page that has some contact info.
Justawatt already phoned and left a message, so we should be good there.

I also sent an email to them previously requesting some more info, but have not had any reply.
Yes, chances are they would not be able/want to comply with letting someone have an in-person demo,
but it will be interesting to see what they might reply back to the inquiries that have been made.

All the best...

justawatt

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hi

i think this video is similar device from india.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZrO3rkF7WM

explanation by robert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-pIINzaqbU

Void

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Hi justawatt. Yes, it may be a similar sort of setup.

All the best...

TinselKoala

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Why are you all wasting time and energy on this crap?


MagnaProp

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If we could harness the energy people spend on this particular design, we would have perpetual power.

Void

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Why are you all wasting time and energy on this crap?

Hi TK. I just posted a few web links and info and sent an email.
It is a given that these type of free energy device claims typically do not pan out,
so the chances of there being something to this device do not seem very high,
but I found it curious that this guy listed the magnet motor as available for sale on a
international trader website, so I am curious what they might have to say about it.

I always find it quite strange when companies list claimed devices like this for sale on websites
as if it is just some sort of common every day sort of thing, so I personally am quite curious
what they might say about it. As always, I don't jump to any conclusions about any claimed devices
however without having some actual info first. There is of course nothing wrong at all with asking a few
questions, just to see what they have to say.

I do not think it is a good idea to send people that are selling or promoting these type of devices a link to
a discussion thread here when first looking into something like this, as nothing will chase people away more
quickly than doing that, regardless of whether there might be anything to their claims or not. 

I see now that the only way to follow up on these kind of claims is to do so privately. As I mentioned, and I would
have thought it would be obvious anyway, I was just curious about what they might have to say.


MagnaProp

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Hi Void. My apologies for my comment if taken negatively. I can see how the offer would be interesting, be it real or otherwise. I think this design gains interest for several reasons. Others have done similar which in its self helps to make subsequent builds appear more legitimate since if it didn't work before, why would it keep being duplicated? It can be good to post links to help spread the word on what's going on but we also can run the risk of giving free advertisement to such builds. Such is the risk we take as with no risk there is no reward as they say.

Visually the builds looks fairly involved and appear to expose the inner workings of the device which I think adds to this designs appeal. As for those selling them. I tend to think they may be trying to recoup some of their time and $ loss from building the thing in the first place. I'd be interested in any response you get from them.

sm0ky2

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I wonder how much mechanical input is needed to bring 2 opposing magnets together?? and then how much mechanical work can be done by them pushing apart?? seems as if a lot of people don't think about it on that simple of a level.


The force decreases with the square of the distance, so knowing the mass
of the materials and the strength of the fields, it’s a straight forward equation.
The fields are conservative, similar to gravity, but as its’ integral.
Which means instead of a single acceleration over time,
It is defined as two opposite accelerating forces, irrespective of time.


The input and output between a particular magnetic pair, are said to be equal.
It requires the same energy to force them together, as they will provide in reverse.
Though, repeated tests will prove that such ‘forcing’ of them weakens their fields
over repetitive cycles.




Newton II

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Don't know whether this video already posted here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvD9-2vBoe8

In below video,  at 5:15, he has kept the bolts and nuts close to the rotor full of neo magnets.  The black color indicates that they may be steel bolts & nuts.  These bolts and nuts are not getting attracted to the powerful neo rotor at all.   Even while assembling he is not experiencing any force.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-pIINzaqbU

So,  those neo magnets are not magnets at all? 


Void

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So,  those neo magnets are not magnets at all?


Hi Newton II. That video may not be related to the claimed device that was listed.


I so far did not receive any email reply back from the company in India about their 'free energy magnet motor'
listing. Not too surprising I suppose. :)

All the best...