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Author Topic: new approach on a gravitational engine  (Read 2807 times)

Offline citfta

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2018, 12:23:25 PM »

I have said this before and I repeat it again: skepticism and disbelief are caused by the inability to COMPREHEND.

A word of warning about the thread 'citfta' suggested in his post below.
At his suggestion, I supplied the info (a tiny bit of what is available!) for those without access to Facebook.
Look what has happened!

Be aware that the man (Ron) who had the opportunity to visit Kevin, BLEW it!  Completely and utterly!
Presented something COMPLETELY different in his video and has proven that he has ZERO understanding of Kevin's designs!
If you care to READ Kevin's comments under Ron's youtube video, you will see what I mean.
(I have it all on FILE, in case they are removed.)

However, having said all that, I wish to add that (again) in order to get free electricity, you need to pull your fingers out of from you know where
and DO some REAL work.  THEORIZING only will never give you free electricity!
End of story!

Cheers,
Les Banki

Ron did the real work.  He and I conversed by email several times while he tried to get this device to work.  He built it with the hopes of seeing something that actually did what the designer claimed.  What Kevin Hay has overlooked completely is that any load you try to put on the output does greatly affect the input.  The two are not separate.  All the measurements proved this.

I also suggest you read Kevin's comments.  They reveal a lot more about his character than his device.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2018, 12:23:25 PM »

Offline norman6538

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2018, 01:35:10 PM »
Thanks Carroll, that was helpful

Hi Norman,

Here is a link to a discussion of a build someone attempted to do of Kevin Hay's device.  The discussion starts with post number 984 and continues through post 1060.  There are some videos included.  Maybe after you have reviewed all that you can come up with a way to actually make it work.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11933-open-discussion-projects-forum-33.html

Respectfully,
Carroll

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2018, 03:49:43 PM »
Quote from: Les Banki
Be aware that the man (Ron) who had the opportunity to visit Kevin, BLEW it!  Completely and utterly!

Actually Les AS YOU WELL KNOW, it was Kevin Hay who "BLEW IT" completely and utterly, by being UNABLE to demonstrate anything to Ron when he visited which supported Hay's claim of a sustained COP 400 device, or a device that sustained an output of 30 amps at some unspecified voltage "on a dynamo" with only 12 volts at 0.1 amp input. Why do you think Hay didn't show Ron anything like that? I know why... and so do you, if you look deep into your heart. It is because Hay cannot support those claims at all, since they are false claims. Now I don't know whether the false claims were made out of ignorance or deliberately in an attempt to bamboozle the hopeful, but from looking at his Facebook posts and his replies to Ron I can make a pretty good guess.

What is the moral position of someone who might actually have such a COP 400 device, but who withholds it from the public, while children all over the world starve to death and die of dysentery, and immoral wars are being fought with huge civilian casualties, all over access to petroleum deposits? No, Hay doesn't have anything useful to offer (except maybe his medicinal cannabis, which is being grown under lights that are powered from his local municipal electric grid).

You want to take his ORMUS to "raise your frequency"? Well remember that a century ago, snake oil salesmen made all kinds of health claims for preparations containing massive amounts of cocaine, morphine and heroin, and sold syphilis cures made from mercury. At least those preparations actually did something! So now you are eating some very weak plant fertilizer sold at enormous profits by more modern snake oil salesmen in the hope of feeling better. Well, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and do it... but stay away from placebo-controlled double blind clinical trials because you might be disappointed.

Offline citfta

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2018, 07:03:59 PM »
Hi TK,

If you follow the reasoning that we should take ormus because it makes the POT plants grow well, then I guess we should all be eating cow manure also.  It really makes plants grow well.  No Thanks.  I am not a plant.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2018, 08:30:11 AM »
Yeah if SH was wit we could have a good laugh! but as it is we will soon be up to our necks in SH
If Tump is related to Godre'el as is calmed I just wonder how many other old fellers are too, thousands
I would guess. So at the end of the day the  American administration must be full of the stuff  ;D ;D ;D ;D
PS watch out for skiers  ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2018, 08:30:11 AM »
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Offline iacob alex

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2018, 11:55:06 AM »
  Hi !
The history of perpetual motion machines dates back to the Middle Ages ,including the most common design ( "self" overbalanced wheel concept with hinged arms ) , as :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#/media/File%3APerpetuum1.png
So, what can be the "new approach" if we apply the redundancy rule (minimum minimorum) regarding a possible continuous gravity overbalance ( "self" motion due to a continuous torque difference on the same side of the fulcrum ) ?
As you know : no flow,no power .Let's "free" the gravity full motion , if you intend really to draw out "motion from the natural ( free... ) motion "...
Simply : use the gravity acceleration "via" the increasing velocity.
 Al_ex

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2018, 05:34:57 PM »
Hi !
If so...type on youtube "Evolution of Perpetual Motion.WORK of Gravitational Power!",then search...
 Al_ex

Here is the link:  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=evolution+of+perpetual+motion%2C+work+of+gravitational+power

That video is very suspicious because he does not let it continue to spin and make a full revolution.  There is probably a hidden weight that is causing the wheel to turn.  If you watch closely he always stops it at the same point and then turns it backwards.  If it really worked he could stop it anywhere and then let it go and it would start again without him having to  turn it backwards first.  Most likely a fake.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2018, 05:34:57 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2018, 07:00:47 PM »
His spokes are out of adjustment
Tighten them up and it will balance
and be perfectly motionless

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2018, 10:33:10 PM »
 Hi !
Try to play the same youtube wheel concept , as a "minimal" design : two opposite hinged spokes ,only.This can  be a simple variable lever , intended to maintain a continuous gravity unbalance ( due to a torque difference on the same side of the fulcrum ).
 Al_ex

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2018, 04:11:51 PM »
   Hi !
A "minimal" design (easy to be tested...) , can be expressed as :
http://www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text028.JPG
  The main point is to "tumble", to roll end over end the torque difference on the same side of the fulcrum.
  Simply , the wheel becomes a lever...
  Al_ex

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Re: new approach on a gravitational engine
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2018, 04:11:51 PM »
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