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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 54826 times)

Offline Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #330 on: April 09, 2018, 04:11:03 PM »
It appears to me, as if there is a major problem with that rectified magnetic field and the circumvention of Lenz's law, although it sounded quite easy to do a few pages ago - or am I just slow of comprehension?

Would be an idea perhaps (in order to cause general amusement) to create a compilation of some red flags I've encountered in course of time regarding free energy demonstrations. Fortunately, there is also one scientifically confirmed green flag about energy from space, not very useful so far, but should be better than nothing.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #331 on: April 10, 2018, 12:32:03 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #332 on: April 10, 2018, 09:10:16 PM »
When an electron moves through a looped wire, it generates a magnetic field. In order to make it move through the wire, a magnetic field is needed (although there are also other methods). That is why it is necessary to decouple the primary magnetic field from the secondary (electron-generated) magnetic field. The point here is, I haven't seen any setup that can do this in practice, it always works on paper only (or in hoax videos).

Basically, the initial idea of this thread was to shed light from all possible directions on this subject - unfortunately the sheer numbers of negative experimental results are all pointing to something rather sinister than enlightening.


THE RED FLAGS

Red flag #1, Kapanadze's ground current. The clamp ammeter shows around 22 amps in the green box video. That means the electrons moving through the wire (allegedly bouncing back and forth) have to generate a magnetic field, otherwise the ammeter would show nothing. But in my understanding those electrons are attracted electrostatically and thus should do work only in the load, not in the ground wire. Also those electrons seem to generate heat in that ground wire, hence the requirement of a rather large diameter of that wire.

Red flag #2, the size of Kapanadze's tin can. The thick orange wire which connects the five 1000W incandescent bulbs to the tin can on Kapanadze's work bench needs to be rather heavy in order to carry 5000W without overheating. But what about the electric component in the tin can itself the orange wire connects to? Its power rating should be corresponding to the power dissipation of the load. But then, how should it fit in that small round box? Even a device that takes energy from space and converts it into usable energy, should have a size that corresponds to the amount of energy it converts.

Red flag #3, the 9V battery. Kapanadze starts some of his devices with the power of a 9V battery. So, how can 9V DC lead to the generation of 220V AC at stable 50Hz? This would only be possible by means of an inverter, but, to the best of my knowledge, there is no 220V inverter commercially available running on a 9V battery (because it makes no sense). Then, should we assume that Kapanadze constructed his own small homemade inverter? But without such a »high-end electronics« inverter there is not even the slightest theory, how a simple oscillating electric circuit could convert 9V DC to precisely 220V AC at 50Hz.

Red flag #4, could there be a hidden wire? During the demonstrations no one of the observers in the videos makes any move to look if there is a hot wire hidden somewhere connecting the device to the grid. Under the work bench in the 2004 video we can clearly see a crossbar directly below the tin can, but no one seems to care about that ideal hiding place for a hot wire. From the psychologically point of view, the first thing an observer of such a device would do, is to look for hidden wires or batteries. But in this case they seem all to trust Kapanadze blindly.

Red flag #5, the Kapanadze motor. A round steel (or aluminum) disc and a round brass disc connected by means of a coiled wire, all mounted on a shaft, start to rotate as if by magic. So far - and that means since at least a decade - there is not even a rudimentary physical theory how and why this could ever work (purportedly by gravitational time dilation), neither is there a shred of a theory how Kapanadze could ever have discovered this effect in the first place. This stuff is completely outside the box.

Red flag #6, the antenna of Tesla's electric car and of the Moray device. Those antennas were connected to what? To high voltage? Then touching such an antenna would have led to electrocution and also to malfunction of the device? And what about moisture? Was Tesla's electric car not suitable for driving in rainy weather? But if these antennas were not connected to high voltage, then how could they ever do anything useful regarding the generation (or collection) of energy from air or space?

Red flag #7, Stepanov's 8,2A negative DC (virtual) ground current. It is hard to see how a 50Hz AC current can flow without a closed electric circuit, but maybe it is in theory possible somehow by letting the electrons bouncing back and forth in the ground wire. But DC without a closed circuit? Absolutely no idea.

Red flag #8, the Barbosa-Leal closed loop heat generation. Why should it be necessary to waste a lot of energy in order to get free energy? Actually this makes no sense. A thin ground wire, capturing the electrons, connects to a ten times thicker looped wire, and the claim then is, that the thin wire stays cool, but the thick looped wire must get hot in order to power some incandescent bulbs at the same time. Something has to be wrong here.

Red flag #9, the patents. Why is there not one single patent filed by Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal or others that shows a comprehensible schematic of one of their devices? A patent would surely protect their intellectual property, so there is no reason in filing nonsense patents which not the brightest minds can grasp - except the reason would be, that they have nothing at all that works in a way like demonstrated in their videos.

Red flag #10, DC output. The Steven Mark TPU as well as the Testatika provide an output of clean and smooth DC. As we know, the easiest way to get clean DC would be by means of some batteries, although as we also know, batteries have a very limited lifespan. And just as a mere coincidence, precisely both of those devices were never showed connected to loads in the range of some kilowatts.

And I'm sure, there are even more red flags, e.g.: Why in decades was not one of the so-called "free energy inventors« able to bring his invention to market? Not even as a toy, e.g. like a spinning top for children driven by permanent magnets, that never stops spinning, or something like that? Which lead to more red flags: Why is no one able to replicate a simple device like the Perendev magnet motor presented in a video in plain view? What happened to the Lüling magnet motor presented in the UFA-Wochenschau more than 50 years ago? Again, after filing a patent, there would be no need to hide the principle of work - given there is a principle of work at all. The same story regarding the Yildiz magnet motor. Probably a scam? In whose interest?


THE IMPOSSIBLE TRUTH

Sherlock Holmes: »When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.«

Therefore, this all looks more and more as if the secret of free energy (Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and so forth) in reality is rather the secret of a giant hoax, ongoing since the 1930's. I still would appreciate it very much, if someone could prove me a liar. In lots of setups I can generate strange noises and funny sparks, I can also generate some heat, but only because the inverter is in state of overload and draws plenty of amps from the battery, not because there is any energy coming from ground or from space. A device, so simple you'll laugh, but no one can find out how it works or can find even a clue in decades, not even by chance. This is plainly not possible. End of the story.

So, what does this all mean? It means, there has to be an authority - a higher power, so to speak - which orchestrates all those undercover operations (hoaxes) over the years. But the question still is why? Do they belief it is possible somehow without knowing how, and they want to make people look deeper into that subject, so they get a lot of research effort for free? Or do they know for sure how it works and they want to distract people away in the wrong direction? Or is there more than one authority involved in this and they fighting each other over that subject?


TESLA QUOTATIONS

Nikola Tesla: »Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. Throughout space there is energy.«

Nikola Tesla: »It is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.«

Nikola Tesla: »I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device. More than twenty-five years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded.«

Nikola Tesla: »This new power for the driving of the world's machinery will be derived from the energy which operates the universe, the cosmic energy, whose central source for the earth is the sun and which is everywhere present in unlimited quantities.«

If those quotes are real and not also hoax (who knows for sure?) then there is still hope; but stay away from all free energy videos and schematics; at best those videos and schematics show how it does NOT work.


CHASING A PHANTOM

A Nexus article from 2001 about Kenneth and James Corum's reconstruction of two simultaneously operating Tesla coils producing fireballs. Maybe something out of the ordinary is going on here, but unfortunately the Corum account is the only account (more like an anecdote) on the entire internet about that dual Tesla coil setup; no videos, no photographs and always one and the same plain sketch. So, are those fireballs for real or is this just another hoax? Perhaps one can find an independent replication of this setup.

There are few possibilities to get a surplus of energy (which has to come from somewhere) from an electric circuit (if at all). If we don't even know the source of the energy, then how should we ever be able to use it? The energy could come from

a) the negative charge of the electron through ground or ionization or both (maybe);
b) the magnetic field created by a coil (might be);
c) the electric field created by a capacitor (could be);
d) the Casimir effect (possibly);
e) the nuclear magnetic resonance, NMR (perhaps);
f) the combination of some of the above (conceivably).

Here my best guess at this point would be to create a combination of a classic Tesla coil and an ordinary 50Hz transformer. Should a Tesla coil ever be able to collect energy from ground and/or space, then this might boost the current in the 50Hz transformer for free. If anyone has an idea how to do this practically, please keep me informed. However, up to now, not a single credible report surfaced that an ordinary Tesla coil has ever produced any surplus energy for free, thus the chances for this are rather faint.

Anyway, there is one setup that has been proven to be capable of collecting energy from the vacuum, it's named the Casimir device (the only scientifically confirmed free energy device). Hence the vacuum contains indeed some energy, but could this be the energy which is - according to Tesla - everywhere present in unlimited quantities and obtainable at any point of the universe? The discrepancy here is that Tesla talks about the cosmic energy, whose central source for the earth is the sun. Then the sun is the source of the vacuum energy? Sounds somewhat strange, so I do not even fully trust those Tesla quotes. Also of interest, Tesla died in 1943, whereas Casimir predicted this effect named after him in 1948. Therefore, in theory, Tesla should not have known anything about the Casimir effect. But maybe he did know something about it, albeit (and of course) not calling it the Casimir effect (actually not calling it anything).

The Casimir setup consists of two parallel metallic (conductive) plates close to each other only nanometers apart. A force coming from space - the quantum vacuum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field - pushes those metallic plates together due to the difference in wave length of the electromagnetic field between the plates and outside the plates. Then what happens to this force if those plates are immovable like the two plates of a capacitor? Will this force then - under certain conditions - reveal itself by generating an electric field - or disturbing an already existing one - and thus generate a voltage between these two plates? What could happen if a Tesla secondary coil is wound bifilar, so it can work as a capacitor and as a coil at once? Or the secondary Tesla coil represent one plate (of the Casimir setup) and a shielding surrounding that coil the second one, only nanometers apart?

Again, no idea. But it could be a start to get something real.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #333 on: April 10, 2018, 09:40:49 PM »
Zeitmaschine


Do not forget about Hubbard  ;)
Look how he named it. The source of energy is known for more then 100 years. The dark ages we live in, the dark ages.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #334 on: April 11, 2018, 04:20:23 PM »
Another anecdote; nothing concrete, no evidence for nothing. The device, as usual, disappeared mysteriously, no replication since a century, no hint how Hubbard could have come across this in the first place. He must have been a genius.

And isn't it interesting that overunity is always claimed by single (maybe sometimes two) ordinary persons? Overunity is never claimed by scientific facilities like universities or by large established companies. We should think about that. It is always THE ONE that »has it«.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #335 on: April 11, 2018, 04:34:52 PM »
Another anecdote; nothing concrete, no evidence for nothing. The device, as usual, disappeared mysteriously, no replication since a century, no hint how Hubbard could come across this in the first place. He must have been a genius.


Hubbard device was carefully investigated by many and especially one trusted professor, who stated that it is not a perpetual motion device-  but a converter of Earth magnetic field - again the same way described it Hendershot. The source is known almost from Faraday days - it is the same source which rotate the Earth and forms magnetic field around us - thus the name "atmospheric electricity generator". The "ether" is Earth magnetic field.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #336 on: April 11, 2018, 05:06:35 PM »
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The source is known almost from Faraday days


Now if we could successfully duplicate that design and consistently get results we'd be onto something . . . .  ;D

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #337 on: April 12, 2018, 09:06:31 AM »
 Zeitmaschine I see your frustration in that long post like you, I have a design that is really good and that operates in mechanical aspect, as I have studied Akula, Ruslan, Kapanadze too…. The only explanation is the conversion of matter into energy like a sealed carbon dioxide laser where the gas is converted into energy as it simply disappears from a sealed gas tube through the use and it has to be re-charged later. Gustave Le-Bonn broke a sacred law about energy conversion in his physics books as there is conversion of matter in the energy and it is nuclear, in origin. Ferrite iron is that source and the yoke was that material which provides very small consumption of an isotope of iron in that conversion maybe with cobalt as a secret ingredient in that effect. I have posted on this many times and it just blew away … away….
 
I no longer engage here,  I am slammed by resident trolls for posting my thoughts.. as I will not answer stupid questions, as they take up my time. and life is way too short to do that … I  am NOT a TEACHER…

 
Acca..
 
Ps I am doing a build up for a patent as that is the only way I will get anywhere with patent morons.. who believe that there is no free energy.. just plan bull …you see…


Space is -455 F. and Earth is +60 F. (average) and that is "Hell" on earth in terms of heat as electromagnetic radiation from the Sun. Soo... where is free energy ? it's here..

In your face !!

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #338 on: April 12, 2018, 05:15:31 PM »
Conservation of energy is a concept that not many understand. It means all the energy was created at the same instant the universe was created. So it is already here and you just need to transform it.

Atoms convert it into motion all the time. Water cycle on Earth uses that energy every day. Magnets perform work when they stay on my fridge door and do not fall due to gravity.

Now you tell me it is not there?!?

We know it is there. The scientists are telling us it is there. What this tells me that our methods are poor and maybe biased by the ones that write the books, educate our engineers and sell us electricity.

The only way to hide this is in plain sight, because everything in Nature is simple and beautiful. You are not asking the right questions, because you are taught not to ask them. You have missed the process already when you start your research.

btw. Moray had scientists and engineers examine his box and give written letters to prove, that there were no batteries. Also worked in the desert. So don't say Kapanadze and Moray are the same

"Dr Eyring found no fault with the demonstration and the worst that he could say about it was that it might be induction, but that if I would take the device out in the mountains away from all power lines, a distance of 3 or 4 miles, and it would then operate he would then acknowledge that it could not be induction and that his theory was wrong and mine right...

At last they decided to go up Emigration Canyon, as there are no power lines in that canyon... All three gentlemen were very well satisfied and pleased with what they saw..."

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #339 on: April 12, 2018, 05:25:15 PM »
Conservation of energy is a concept that not many understand. It means all the energy was created at the same instant the universe was created. So it is already here and you just need to transform it.


Atoms convert it into motion all the time.

 Water cycle on Earth uses that energy every day.

BUT THE ENERGY FROM THE SUN IS REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.


Magnets perform work when they stay on my fridge door and do not fall due to gravity.

YES A MAGNET WILL DO WORK BY LIFTING METAL BUT THEN ITS STUCK AND TAKES
AS MUCH WORK TO RELEASE THE LIFTED METAL....

I have several cases where magnets do work and are not stuck but everybody wants to
see a self runner and those cases are OU but do not have enough extra to do the switching
on and off of the magnetic work cycle.

Norman




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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #340 on: April 14, 2018, 04:24:11 AM »
HI,

why, we cant just ' burn ' the aire and collect the enengy?
is there any dengerous gaz?

i know must be a more simple way.

regards

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #341 on: April 14, 2018, 03:41:39 PM »
Go look at the recent post at radiant_energy in   http://yahoogroups.com
Bruce has an announcement about a 50kw device based on the
Moray device.
Moray lit a bank of light bulbs  for a month with only an aerial and a ground wire.


Pray for his success and for all of us.

Norman

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #342 on: April 14, 2018, 08:11:40 PM »
Go look at the recent post at radiant_energy in   http://yahoogroups.com
Bruce has an announcement about a 50kw device based on the
Moray device.
Moray lit a bank of light bulbs  for a month with only an aerial and a ground wire.


Pray for his success and for all of us.




Norman
Bruce who ? What took him so long ?[/size]

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #343 on: April 14, 2018, 08:38:58 PM »
Bruce Perreault - see the yahoo groups radiantenergy.....

Norman

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #344 on: April 14, 2018, 08:46:33 PM »
Bruce Perreault - see the yahoo groups radiantenergy.....

Norman


Yeah, I was there years ago and there was single circuit discussed able to get only few watts at output. So, I don't believe he can jump from say 5W to 50kW.

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