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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #180 on: January 17, 2018, 05:04:45 AM »
Don’t confuse high voltage/low current with low energy.
High voltage can create heat a lot faster than high current.
and more efficiently.


Ionization Energy and Melting Point are tied to the same
nucleic factor.

Feel free to demonstrate the truth of your assertions.

Of course high energy is transmitted over high-voltage, lower current transmission lines in national electric supply grids constantly, due to reduced losses from joule heating which happens with low-voltage high current systems.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #181 on: January 17, 2018, 05:34:08 AM »
Hi TK. Are you saying that you have achieved over unity with your device?
No, of course not. In fact I have not even built the full EEEE system (yet) due to lack of space (ironic isn't it) and funds.
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If not, what are you suggesting?
I am "suggesting" that the devices I have designed, demonstrated, proposed and explained perform all of the things which others have suggested as the "secrets" of overunity. People are flailing around without any coherent scientific theory or well-formed testable hypotheses, not to mention the chasing of hoaxes that will never result in any payoff but will simply waste the time, energy and money of well-intentioned, hopeful, but naive experimenters (if they can be called "experimenters" at all rather than simply misguided hobbyists.)
As I noted above, the apparatus does everything listed by another poster, does it simply and cheaply and compactly and most of all, scientifically. There are sound scientific principles that hint at extremely powerful energy in the vacuum, and it is my intuition or tentative belief that the way to get to this energy and make it useful is to create stresses in the vacuum which will cause pair-production, and then an established power transmission system may then be able to entrain some -- perhaps an infinitesimal amount but still significant -- of this released energy of the vacuum -- AKA the real ZPE -- into a pre-existing flow of power, which thereby may be increased. This does not violate CoE or other "laws" of thermodynamics.
The apparatus I have outlined is a table-top demonstrator of these principles. I've stated elsewhere that stressing the vacuum to the needed degree will probably involve electric field strengths an order of magnitude or more greater than the simple demonstrator can achieve, and that "success" may be manifested, at first, as reduced losses resulting in a _slight_ increase of output power, or an improved ratio of out/in power. 

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What you show in your video doesn't appear to show anything out of the ordinary
beyond normal 'wireless' induction between some tesla coils.


All the best...

My video (and others in the same series, as well as Gotoluc's work with the apparatus) demonstrates several simple parts of the idea: the power flow through space, capacitive stress, and the stepping-down of the transmitted HV/Low current into low voltage high current. The power flows through space in the TKoil X system mostly not by induction, but by capacitive coupling. The apparatus I've outlined called the "EEEE" overlaps inductive magnetic coupling and capacitive coupling and demonstrates the stressing of the vacuum due to the strongly coupled electric fields (capacitive) along with enveloping magnetic fields (inductive) . This is identical to what people have been flailing about with such things as "coil-capacitors" and so forth. Only it works. It is my firmly held and scientifically supported opinion that the devices mentioned in the title of this thread are mere hoaxes and red herrings... but as I have often said the best red herrings are real fish. By this I mean that the Kapa, Stepanov, Akula etc devices do work, for certain values of "work". That is, they are good _receivers_ of transmitted power using mainly inductive coupling, but they fail to create the proper conditions of stressing the vacuum in order to entrain "new" energy to make their outputs increase to the point of "overunity" performance. They are in fact receiving their power (all of it) from ordinary sources not shown by the hoaxers, and this is why the "replicators" here have not and will not ever succeed in their goals of making "self runners". 
(The Barbosa-Leal devices are simply working from their local SWGR grid system, as has been explained many times over.)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #182 on: January 17, 2018, 08:39:03 AM »
Void: »you can connect a section of metal pipe such as iron (has more resistance than copper) as part of the high current loop and it will get very hot if the current is high enough.«

Yes, IF the current is high enough. But just with the inverter connected to a small primary coil (transformer like arc welder but not size and power like arc welder) there is no need for the loop to get hot, tried it myself. If it starts to get hot nevertheless when HV is connected, then this would be a sign that something extraordinary is going on.

Void: » For some reason you continue to ignore these things and still insist that Barbosa and Leal devices
produce over unity.«

Not for some reason, but for good reason. The Kapanadze device seems to work, as we know. So there is no reason why the Barbosa-Leal device should not work, since there is most likely just one principle for that kind of devices. And very strangely Bearden describes exactly this principle in a paper from 1982 (see previous page).

Void: »this type of ground loop problem should really be common knowledge«

And that problem would be? When I connect an incandescent lamp with one side to phase of an electric socket and the other side to a water tap, then is it this what is called a ground loop? Maybe, but this does not interfere with my electricity meter. It continuous to meter every milliampere that goes through the lamp. So what ground loop is it, that could have misled two people familiar with electric equipment at once? Don't know.

Besides I have pointed out that there is no ground loop. The input from grid or inverter can be completely isolated from ground.

Void: »the earth ground wire does nothing no matter how I wound it around the captor loop wire or connected it to the captor loop wire«

Then the most reasonable assumption here would be, that something minor is wrong or missing. Any constructive feedback would be much appreciated instead of keeping saying researchers should better quit.
Hi Heir Time machine how much current do you need ?  2-3 kv of the grid is a bit leathel and will the insulation in the windings go that far ? all you need is a power FET 6volts on a larger ferrox cube or ring primary 8 to 12 turns 18swg depends on current and 8 - 12turns feed back with 220 to 470 r in gate feed back loop and a secondary 600 t insulated layers iif its ac you will need 1200 or more depending on input volts but it will be highly efficient. Works for me.
 

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #183 on: January 17, 2018, 08:59:21 AM »
 ;D
Guys ... I found a youtube of 2004 kapanadze to which subtitles were added in Russian but it is possible to translate them ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #184 on: January 17, 2018, 11:07:50 AM »
No, of course not. In fact I have not even built the full EEEE system (yet) due to lack of space (ironic isn't it) and funds. I am "suggesting" that the devices I have designed, demonstrated, proposed and explained perform all of the things which others have suggested as the "secrets" of overunity. People are flailing around without any coherent scientific theory or well-formed testable hypotheses, not to mention the chasing of hoaxes that will never result in any payoff but will simply waste the time, energy and money of well-intentioned, hopeful, but naive experimenters (if they can be called "experimenters" at all rather than simply misguided hobbyists.)
As I noted above, the apparatus does everything listed by another poster, does it simply and cheaply and compactly and most of all, scientifically. There are sound scientific principles that hint at extremely powerful energy in the vacuum, and it is my intuition or tentative belief that the way to get to this energy and make it useful is to create stresses in the vacuum which will cause pair-production, and then an established power transmission system may then be able to entrain some -- perhaps an infinitesimal amount but still significant -- of this released energy of the vacuum -- AKA the real ZPE -- into a pre-existing flow of power, which thereby may be increased. This does not violate CoE or other "laws" of thermodynamics.
The apparatus I have outlined is a table-top demonstrator of these principles. I've stated elsewhere that stressing the vacuum to the needed degree will probably involve electric field strengths an order of magnitude or more greater than the simple demonstrator can achieve, and that "success" may be manifested, at first, as reduced losses resulting in a _slight_ increase of output power, or an improved ratio of out/in power. 

My video (and others in the same series, as well as Gotoluc's work with the apparatus) demonstrates several simple parts of the idea: the power flow through space, capacitive stress, and the stepping-down of the transmitted HV/Low current into low voltage high current. The power flows through space in the TKoil X system mostly not by induction, but by capacitive coupling. The apparatus I've outlined called the "EEEE" overlaps inductive magnetic coupling and capacitive coupling and demonstrates the stressing of the vacuum due to the strongly coupled electric fields (capacitive) along with enveloping magnetic fields (inductive) . This is identical to what people have been flailing about with such things as "coil-capacitors" and so forth. Only it works. It is my firmly held and scientifically supported opinion that the devices mentioned in the title of this thread are mere hoaxes and red herrings... but as I have often said the best red herrings are real fish. By this I mean that the Kapa, Stepanov, Akula etc devices do work, for certain values of "work". That is, they are good _receivers_ of transmitted power using mainly inductive coupling, but they fail to create the proper conditions of stressing the vacuum in order to entrain "new" energy to make their outputs increase to the point of "overunity" performance. They are in fact receiving their power (all of it) from ordinary sources not shown by the hoaxers, and this is why the "replicators" here have not and will not ever succeed in their goals of making "self runners". 
(The Barbosa-Leal devices are simply working from their local SWGR grid system, as has been explained many times over.)

Very interesting TK,

i am sure you got the attention of some people, you sure got mine.
Is there a possibility to open a new thread on your "Apparatus for Entraining Envirmonmental Electrical Energy (EEEE) v2.2"
so these interested people can start gathering components and join you into a build?

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #185 on: January 17, 2018, 01:00:20 PM »
Void: »Because Kapanadze's devices seem to be legit does not mean that the Barbosa and Leal devices are legit.«

But it makes it likelier. Kapanadze's devices also capture electrons from ground.

First Barbosa and Leal demonstrate a free electric energy device, a short time later they back down, saying sorry, it was a mistake. Shortly afterwards they file a patent regarding a process that normally requires electricity, but thanks to their invention (or discovery) of a new chemical process it does now work without electric power consumption. You have to admit, that this is quite suspicious. Even more in the light that the respective website shows not one genuine image of something real, just symbolic photos and drawings.

BTW, can you show me the ground loop in the drawing below? It is the non-polarized version as depicted in the patent. Though I still have no idea what the polarized version should be good for.

As one can clearly see, there is a dot missing in each of the two drawings. Does that mean, there is no connection between some mysterious positive voltage source and the closed loop, but rather that plus sign is just a pointer, saying the closed loop is already connected to positive? Of course it is connected to something (periodically) positive, namely to the high voltage transformer coil. The minus sign connection is drawn with a dot. Does that mean, for some reason, it is imperative that the primary coil is connected to ground? Maybe for safety, because the looped coil is energized with high voltage? Or could there be another reason?

The left-hand drawing shows two primary coils connected in parallel and two secondary looped coils connected in series. I have no idea what the advantage of that could be. At least the different versions prove, Barbosa and Leal experimented a lot with that kind of setup, so the chance they missed to recognize a simple (non-existing) ground loop should be even less.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #186 on: January 17, 2018, 05:05:02 PM »
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They are in fact receiving their power (all of it) from ordinary sources not shown by the hoaxers, and this is why the "replicators" here have not and will not ever succeed in their goals of making "self runners". 
(The Barbosa-Leal devices are simply working from their local SWGR grid system, as has been explained many times over.)

Hi TK. While I fully realize that the chances are quite small that any given OU device claimant's
devices are really OU, Kapanadze has done various demonstrations of his devices up close in front of
a number of different people where people were able to watch as things are connected up and inspect
all the wires etc., and his demos in Turkey and on the island for potential investors would be particularly hard
to fake it seems to me, especially the island demo where it was said that Kapanadze did not know
the destination for the demo before hand. The potential investors took Kapanadze there by boat. The island demo video
clip that I think was originally posted by Youtube user 'teofiliuss' (the Youtube account is no longer there now), who I think
stated he attended the demo and he may have been the one who video recorded it, seems to show that Kapanadze was able
to demonstrate his device on that remote island.

When I consider all the different demos that kapanadze has done under different conditions, I know that as unlikely
as a real OU device may be that Kapanadze's various demonstrations up close in front of other people, all
taken together as a whole, do stand up pretty well to critical analysis. To suggest that Kapanadze used hidden
power wires or a giant hidden tesla coil transmitter in every case when powering loads from about 1kW to 5kW,
and possibly a lot more in one or two demos, with no attendees to date ever reporting seeing anything suspicious
just does not seem too likely to me. So as improbable as his devices may seem, until I see some actual convincing evidence
that Kapanadze has been using tricks I think the actual evidence to date leaves it open that Kapanadze's devices
may possibly be real.

Akula's few demonstrations that we know of in front of others without (any reported) detection of any tricks so far also
makes me think that his devices may possibly be legit as well (not using tricks). Notice I use the term 'may possibly'. :)
There is no way to say for sure those devices are legit OU devices without independent testing, but nevertheless
I think Kapanadze's and Akula's devices (maybe to a lesser extent) are possibly legit, all things fairly considered.

I do not jump to conclusions without actual reasonable and convincing evidence, so I take the position that Kapanadze's
and Akula's devices might possibly be legit given all the evidence to date, and it can't be reasonably said that
either of these guy's devices are definitely fake without some actual evidence of that. It would likely take one very large
tesla coil to power loads of several kW's at a far distance, so that doesn't seem too likely at all to me as a possible
explanation. Kapanadze is not powering loads of a few Watts or tens of Watts. He powers loads of kW's in his demos. :)

I agree that the Barbosa and Leal devices are not likely legit. They have not done any convincing demos in front of others
that I know of where they were able to demonstrate apparent OU using a battery and inverter as the power source, or showing
a self looped configuration with no battery or other power source, so their claims of OU seem very unlikely to me given what
they did show.


All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #187 on: January 17, 2018, 05:34:01 PM »
Hi Zetmaschine. The drawings you posted for Barbosa and Leal would seem to show
a direct connection to the grid live phase and neutral phase to the load, which would seemingly
indicate that the power is coming directly from the grid for those configurations. Patent
drawings sometimes/often contain deliberate omissions or some deceptive details, so it is
not clear how the load should be connected in their patent drawings. However Ariovaldo who
posts here got his hands on a device that was made by Barbosa and Leal, and Ariovaldo did a
full tear down on that device and the load was connected between the live phase and the earth
ground wire, according to what Ariovaldo found when examining the device. That is a ground loop.
So, I have been basing my opinion on both the patent drawings combined with what Ariovaldo
found in the device that was built by Barbosa and Leal. The fact that the current meter on the
device also read the current loop current rather than the input current on the live phase wire
also seems very suspicious.

If Barbosa and Leal were to demonstrate an OU effect with their devices in front of a number of
independent witnesses when powered from a battery and inverter, or when configured as a self
runner with no battery at all as Kapanadze has done on a number of occasions, then I might
be more inclined to think that they may possibly have something legit, but what they have shown to
date with a connection directly to the grid as the input power source is not very convincing at all,
to say the least, and the device that they built confirmed the ground loop, and suspiciously measured
the current in the current loop instead of the input current or output current. All things considered
Barbosa and Leal's devices seem pretty low to me at best on the OU credibility scale.

Your suggestion that because Barbosa and Leal have moved onto something completely different
(a chemical process to derive hydrogen from water) somehow supports the credibility of their
captor loop devices makes no sense. They have teamed up with a chemist and started a new
business that does not appear to be at all related to their former captor loop device claims. This
new chemical process they are claiming is supposed to not use electrolysis (no electricity), so
suggesting that it really uses their captor loop devices does not make any sense to me.

I won't keep repeating myself on this as I think all this should be pretty much self evident anyway. :)
At any rate, this is my own personal view of the Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices.

All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #188 on: January 17, 2018, 05:56:55 PM »

When I consider all the different demos that kapanadze has done under different conditions, I know that as unlikely
as a real OU device may be that Kapanadze's various demonstrations up close in front of other people, all
taken together as a whole do stand up quite well to critical analysis.

All the best...

Hi Void,

Forgive me for labouring the point but his demos have not stood up to critical analysis in my opinion. Being close to his contraptions proved little because firstly we do not know how many in the crowd were part of his team. For example take the bearded man and TK's son standing next to each other in the green box garden video. Notice that they are flanked both sides by a man and a women. I saw nobody walk round between them to inspect the area around the bearded man. As you know, I am fairly sure that the bearded man holds the hidden power feed cable. The tester with the clamp meter is only allowed to clamp the wires directed by TK and is not seen looking closely at anything on the table. The rest of the crowd were just looking at the show from a distance.

Moving onto the Aqua 2 demo, as I have commented in the past, this was a joke, where from video evidence, no meter readings were shown because as I understand from a.king21 the testing team was not allowed to make any invasive measurements which would have been necessary with this setup. Despite this, the team appeared to be awestruck at the contraptions capability! As for the 1994 workshop video, there was far too much clutter on the bench around the contraption to really make any valued judgement as to whether it could have been genuine or not. Speculation heaped on speculation is all we really have. What we don't have and cannot have is any critical analysis and at this point in time, several years on from the events, its still 50/50 as to whether TK's contraptions are fake or genuine self-runners.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #189 on: January 17, 2018, 06:21:56 PM »
Hi Hoppy. Well, I guess we disagree then. :) The Turkey demo and the island demos in
particular would be very hard to fake I think given that the potential investors would most
probably have been very much on their guard for any attempts to trick them, unless they were
complete morons, and I don't buy it as at all likely that those potential investors were all in on some elaborate
scam with Kapanadze when those demos were done. Seems quite unlikely to me. Until I see
some actual credible evidence of tricks or other skulduggery, I will leave the possibility open that Kapanadze's devices
may be legit. :)


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #190 on: January 17, 2018, 06:22:31 PM »
Void: »The fact that the current meter on the device also read the current loop current rather than the input current on the live phase wire also seems very suspicious.«

I have still a problem with that, therefore an easy question, straight forward: During the demonstration they have connected a bunch of incandescent lamps to one of their devices (see below). Now, if those lamps are powered by the grid due to a ground loop, what should happen when the shorted secondary coil is opened (cut) while the device is running? The lamps stay on, or the lamps go off? An idea?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #191 on: January 17, 2018, 06:35:14 PM »
Void: »The fact that the current meter on the device also read the current loop current rather than the input current on the live phase wire also seems very suspicious.«

I have still a problem with that, therefore an easy question, straight forward: During the demonstration they have connected a bunch of incandescent lamps to one of their devices (see below). Now, if those lamps are powered by the grid due to a ground loop, what should happen when the shorted secondary coil is opened (cut) while the device is running? The lamps stay on, or the lamps go off? An idea?

Hi Zeitmaschine. Well, there is no way to say how they had things connected internally
for that demo, so I think there is no way to tell what they might really have been doing there.

Now if Barbosa and Leal could demonstrate in front of independent witnesses that their devices work
in a self looped configuration with no grid connection or battery like Kapanadze has demonstrated, then
they would have more credibility IMO. What they have shown was not very convincing to me at all.
With the excess power that they were claiming to be able to produce, it should have been very simple
for them to create and demonstrate a self looped configuration with no connection to the grid.

All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #192 on: January 17, 2018, 07:05:49 PM »
Void: »Well, there is no way to say how they had things connected internally for that demo, so I think there is no way to tell what they might really have been doing there.«

No way to tell? Just in reply #187 it was a ground loop. Strange.

The deeper problem is this: If those lamps are powered by a ground loop then they should stay lit when the closed circuit is cut, because that closed circuit then has nothing to do with the output power of the device. But the patent states about that closed circuit, 2 turns for the generation of electricity and 4 turns to generate heat. And that means they must have done experiments with that closed circuit and therefore they would have noticed that the output power stays the same (due to the ground loop) regardless whether the loop has 2 turns or 4 turns or there is no loop at all. So, there is no way they could have overlooked that ground loop accidentally. And that means they must have faked that presentation deliberately. But this makes no sense either.

Conclusion: If there is a ground loop, then it was deliberately faked.

Explanation?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #193 on: January 17, 2018, 07:31:18 PM »
Void: »Well, there is no way to say how they had things connected internally for that demo, so I think there is no way to tell what they might really have been doing there.«

No way to tell? Just in reply #187 it was a ground loop. Strange.
The deeper problem is this: If those lamps are powered by a ground loop then they should stay lit when the closed circuit is cut, because that closed circuit then has nothing to do with the output power of the device. But the patent states about that closed circuit, 2 turns for the generation of electricity and 4 turns to generate heat. And that means they must have done experiments with that closed circuit and therefore they would have noticed that the output power stays the same (due to the ground loop) regardless whether the loop has 2 turns or 4 turns or there is no loop at all. So, there is no way they could have overlooked that ground loop accidentally. And that means they must have faked that presentation deliberately. But this makes no sense either.

Conclusion: If there is a ground loop, then it was deliberately faked.
Explanation?

Hi Zeitmaschine. I wasn't saying I didn't think a ground loop was involved, I was
saying it wasn't known how other things were connected internally so there is no way
to know what should happen when breaking a current loop, as internally it may not
have been wired the way you think it was supposed to be wired. I am not interested in getting
into a long drawn out argument about it because I think that is pointless. :) If Barbosa and
Leal could demonstrate a self runner in front of independent witnesses who could come
up close and look around for possible hidden wires as Kapanadze has done, then that would
add some credibility to their claims, but what they have shown previously is not very credible to me.
You are welcome to your own views on the matter however. That is my point of view.


All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #194 on: January 17, 2018, 08:07:05 PM »
Hi zeit.
The last two drawings look like a desperate try from the part of the inventors to hide their real device operation. No spark gaps no high frequencies no caps, nothing that could show something!   

May I ask where did you find the previous circuit with the two transformers?
 
I already ordered the above mini transformers. 220 to 24V 1.5VA! 2.60 Euros each.

Hi TK ;)
Nice demonstration! Are your Tesla coils sharing the same earth ground? 

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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