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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 54265 times)

Offline PolaczekCebulaczek

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #165 on: January 16, 2018, 01:21:33 PM »
It's interesting. Regarding 'The Genesis Project', does anyone know who wrote the document
and who built the devices shown in the document? Who were those people and where are they now?
From the pictures in the document it is hard to tell whether there is anything unusual going on there
or not as they provided no details about input power and output power, and really no details at all
about how it was being powered.


Throwing around ideas and speculation can only take you so far (which is usually not very far at all when
it comes to the topic of OU), but has anyone built any test circuits which they think actually show some
interesting or promising results based on their ideas? That's what really matters IMO.  :)
If a person can't back up what they are suggesting with at least some sort of basic test setup, then what
have they really got? Just words... ;)


All the best...

genesis requires big charge on electrostatic part,  I dont know how to suck electrons from electrostatic terminal, tried with flyback but its not enough, we can also use coax shielding as charged capacitance, if this is real than creating resonance in resonance is possible AND it would be  a self adjusting resonance, here the famous tesla "extra coil"  can be wound as bifilar non inductive coil.

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Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #166 on: January 16, 2018, 02:10:18 PM »
Jeg: »does anyone know where to find a transformer 220 to 2000V except of MOTS which consume one ton of wattage?«

That question is interesting. Seems this is not so easy as it looks. Try combining some small 230V to 24V transformers, then connect them in reverse. Blue and Red is the input and is connected to the frequency doubler. If the capacitor resonates with the combined transformers then the output should be around 2 to 3 KV at 100Hz sinusoidal. The resistor of the frequency doubler is the central problem. Without it, the LC circuit can't oscillate, at the same time it shorts the diode bridge, so it gets quite hot and wastes a lot of input energy.

Maybe one has a genius idea how to get high voltage around a few kilovolts at 100HZ without any waste of energy, since just the voltage without amperes is needed.

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #167 on: January 16, 2018, 04:35:44 PM »
Try combining some small 230V to 24V transformers, then connect them in reverse.

Recently i connected 220V to a 24V secondary and after seeing smoke i understood my mistake. 24V secondary needs 24V as an input and not 220V. Or else severe current will destroy the varnish of the wires due to heat.

Do you mean 10 transformers primaries and secondaries in series? Ahh now i understood what is in the pic above. Thanks a lot. I find it α very nice idea. Does anyone know what kind of transformers are they?




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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #168 on: January 16, 2018, 05:35:41 PM »
The frequency doubler circuit does not necessarily provide 220V.  Here each transformer generates around 280V out, that multiplied by 8 makes 2240V at 100Hz. Input on each 24V coil around 40V. Always two 24V coils are connected in series, that makes 80V coming from the frequency doubler circuit.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #169 on: January 16, 2018, 06:38:33 PM »
Thanks Zeit.
Looks that resistor's size depends on cap's value. Cap needs to be discharged before next cycle or else will block dc from diodes.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #169 on: January 16, 2018, 06:38:33 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #170 on: January 16, 2018, 07:01:39 PM »
genesis requires big charge on electrostatic part,  I dont know how to suck electrons from electrostatic terminal, tried with flyback but its not enough, we can also use coax shielding as charged capacitance, if this is real than creating resonance in resonance is possible AND it would be  a self adjusting resonance, here the famous tesla "extra coil"  can be wound as bifilar non inductive coil.

I can only assume that you are just not paying attention to my postings, or that you simply do not understand what I've demonstrated in my videos.


All of these things are accomplished and demonstrated in the last video I posted and are to be used in the EEEE apparatus I have outlined:

-- big charge on electrostatic part
-- sucking electrons from electrostatic terminal without flyback
-- charged capacitance in coaxial apparatus (not cable but in free space)
-- creates resonance in resonance
-- self adjusting auto-resonator driver
-- the "famous Tesla extra coil" -- but most definitely NOT non-inductive, as induction is important part of energy transfer through free space

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #171 on: January 16, 2018, 07:09:54 PM »
Whenever you put a core into a coil you get overunity

No, cores other than the vacuum (or air, same thing practically) are loss mechanisms. They may concentrate magnetic fields but do so at the expense of power, which is dissipated by core motions both macroscopic and microscopic, Joule heating, EM radiation and other effects. Even ferroresonance is a loss mechanism. Any "free energy" must come from the energy of the vacuum, the true ZPE, and must not be dissipated in inevitably lossy cores.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #171 on: January 16, 2018, 07:09:54 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #172 on: January 16, 2018, 07:59:47 PM »
All of these things are accomplished and demonstrated in the last video I posted and are to be used in the EEEE apparatus I have outlined:

-- big charge on electrostatic part
-- sucking electrons from electrostatic terminal without flyback
-- charged capacitance in coaxial apparatus (not cable but in free space)
-- creates resonance in resonance
-- self adjusting auto-resonator driver
-- the "famous Tesla extra coil" -- but most definitely NOT non-inductive, as induction is important part of energy transfer through free space

Hi TK. Are you saying that you have achieved over unity with your device?
If not, what are you suggesting?
What you show in your video doesn't appear to show anything out of the ordinary
beyond normal 'wireless' induction between some tesla coils.


All the best...

« Last Edit: January 16, 2018, 10:18:32 PM by Void »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #173 on: January 16, 2018, 09:00:05 PM »
TinselKoala: »Any "free energy" must come from the energy of the vacuum, the true ZPE, and must not be dissipated in inevitably lossy cores.«

Losses are irrelevant when a device generates free energy, see Barbosa's and Leal's heated copper pipe. Since the energy comes for free, then by definition there is nothing that can be lost.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #174 on: January 16, 2018, 09:50:38 PM »
MAgnetic field is source of energy. More field more energy

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #175 on: January 16, 2018, 10:16:54 PM »
Losses are irrelevant when a device generates free energy, see Barbosa's and Leal's heated copper pipe.
Since the energy comes for free, then by definition there is nothing that can be lost.

Hi Zeitmaschine. As I have mentioned already, you can connect a section of metal pipe such as
iron (has more resistance than copper) as part of the high current loop and it will get very hot if the
current is high enough. This is a similar principle as for an induction heater and an arc welder. It is not
over unity however.  I have also pointed out to you that Barbosa and Leal's devices work with a ground loop
to the grid, so the power is coming from the grid when connected to the grid. No one I have ever seen has been
able to show anything unusual from Barbosa and Leal devices when using a battery and inverter.

For some reason you continue to ignore these things and still insist that Barbosa and Leal devices
produce over unity. Unfortunately if you ignore evidence that gets in the way of what you would prefer to
believe you will most likely just end up deep in the weeds. The Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices are
most probably not over unity, with all the evidence fairly considered. Rationalizing that they wouldn't have spent
so much time on it if it didn't work is just a rationalization. They may very well have been fooled by the ground loop
to the grid being the real source of the power, just as many people still do not seem to understand how this happens
even in forums like this where this type of ground loop problem should really be common knowledge. I have played
around with a Barbosa and Leal setup using a battery and inverter, and the earth ground wire does nothing no matter
how I wound it around the captor loop wire or connected it to the captor loop wire. Anyway, I won't repeat this again
as it looks like you are determined to ignore any evidence that gets in the way of what you prefer to believe.
Basing your ideas on a device that by all indications is very unlikely to be OU is not a reasonable way to
approach things, IMO.


All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #176 on: January 16, 2018, 11:30:16 PM »
Void: »you can connect a section of metal pipe such as iron (has more resistance than copper) as part of the high current loop and it will get very hot if the current is high enough.«

Yes, IF the current is high enough. But just with the inverter connected to a small primary coil (transformer like arc welder but not size and power like arc welder) there is no need for the loop to get hot, tried it myself. If it starts to get hot nevertheless when HV is connected, then this would be a sign that something extraordinary is going on.

Void: » For some reason you continue to ignore these things and still insist that Barbosa and Leal devices
produce over unity.«

Not for some reason, but for good reason. The Kapanadze device seems to work, as we know. So there is no reason why the Barbosa-Leal device should not work, since there is most likely just one principle for that kind of devices. And very strangely Bearden describes exactly this principle in a paper from 1982 (see previous page).

Void: »this type of ground loop problem should really be common knowledge«

And that problem would be? When I connect an incandescent lamp with one side to phase of an electric socket and the other side to a water tap, then is it this what is called a ground loop? Maybe, but this does not interfere with my electricity meter. It continuous to meter every milliampere that goes through the lamp. So what ground loop is it, that could have misled two people familiar with electric equipment at once? Don't know.

Besides I have pointed out that there is no ground loop. The input from grid or inverter can be completely isolated from ground.

Void: »the earth ground wire does nothing no matter how I wound it around the captor loop wire or connected it to the captor loop wire«

Then the most reasonable assumption here would be, that something minor is wrong or missing. Any constructive feedback would be much appreciated instead of keeping saying researchers should better quit.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #177 on: January 17, 2018, 03:33:01 AM »
Hi Zeitmaschine.

Yes, IF the current is high enough. But just with the inverter connected to a small primary coil (transformer like arc welder but not size and power like arc welder) there is no need for the loop to get hot, tried it myself. If it starts to get hot nevertheless when HV is connected, then this would be a sign that something extraordinary is going on.

I disagree. I have had quite thick cables get very hot in just a short time. :)
This was with the input power being less then 20 Watts. It is not over unity however.
I think it wouldn't take all that much more higher current to heat up a section of pipe


Not for some reason, but for good reason. The Kapanadze device seems to work, as we know. So there is no reason why the Barbosa-Leal device should not work, since there is most likely just one principle for that kind of devices. And very strangely Bearden describes exactly this principle in a paper from 1982 (see previous page).

Because Kapanadze's devices seem to be legit does not mean that the Barbosa and Leal devices are legit. :)
I have already given several reasons why I think the Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices are not likely at all to be OU.


And that problem would be? When I connect an incandescent lamp with one side to phase of an electric socket and the other side to a water tap, then is it this what is called a ground loop? Maybe, but this does not interfere with my electricity meter. It continuous to meter every milliampere that goes through the lamp. So what ground loop is it, that could have misled two people familiar with electric equipment at once? Don't know.
Besides I have pointed out that there is no ground loop. The input from grid or inverter can be completely isolated from ground.

Yes, it is of course a ground loop when you connect a lamp from the grid Live phase to earth ground.
If it does not fool your power meter, it doesn't mean at all that it will necessarily not fool power meters
in some other countries or areas with different grid systems and different types of power meters. :)
I have already pointed out I have not seen any reasonable demonstration of a Barbosa and Leal captor
loop setup appearing to produce OU when using a battery and inverter. That is not a small point.
If it doesn't work same with a battery and inverter as it does when connected to the grid, then obviously
the extra power is coming from the grid when connected to the grid.


Then the most reasonable assumption here would be, that something minor is wrong or missing. Any constructive feedback would be much appreciated instead of keeping saying researchers should better quit.

No one has said here researchers should quit. You just made that up. :)
I said it seems very unlikely that the Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices are OU, all things considered,
so hinging your ideas for Kapanade devices on an assumption that Barbosa and Leal devices are OU
does not seem like a good idea to me. Just my honest opinion, and it is constructive feedback.  :)
If you don't want honest feedback from others, then why post your ideas here?


All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #178 on: January 17, 2018, 04:35:59 AM »
Don’t confuse high voltage/low current with low energy.
High voltage can create heat a lot faster than high current.
and more efficiently.


Ionization Energy and Melting Point are tied to the same
nucleic factor.




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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #179 on: January 17, 2018, 05:04:07 AM »
MAgnetic field is source of energy. More field more energy

No, magnetic field is a _storage_ of energy which must come from somewhere else. Do you think a piggy bank is the source of money?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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