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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 31333 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #150 on: January 15, 2018, 06:55:38 PM »
A revised link with the "Chart 9" (picture) is here:
http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/

It's interesting. Regarding 'The Genesis Project', does anyone know who wrote the document
and who built the devices shown in the document? Who were those people and where are they now?
From the pictures in the document it is hard to tell whether there is anything unusual going on there
or not as they provided no details about input power and output power, and really no details at all
about how it was being powered.


Throwing around ideas and speculation can only take you so far (which is usually not very far at all when
it comes to the topic of OU), but has anyone built any test circuits which they think actually show some
interesting or promising results based on their ideas? That's what really matters IMO.  :)
If a person can't back up what they are suggesting with at least some sort of basic test setup, then what
have they really got? Just words... ;)


All the best...


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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #151 on: January 15, 2018, 07:16:39 PM »
Have a look at this circuit !
For me many ideas spring to mind with this circuit 'it's' just an idea with many problems to iron out!
The driver stage if left as is will draw loads of DC and the base driver circuit might need modification
in it's bias circuit and the output stage might also need some attention or modifying.

However the output drive is modulated carrier wave drive, say no more play with it as you wish but if you find anything please report back so we can all benefit from it !

Interesting cct Alien. Looks simple enough to be a contender for TK's devices. His green 3-phase trafo looks like it could fit in place of TP2. Have you built it yet?

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #152 on: January 15, 2018, 07:50:20 PM »
PolaczekCebulaczek: »3.Some sort of tesla coil that takes energy from space.«

Kapanadze never mentioned a Tesla coil. He said, he used Tesla's schematics, because Tesla invented this. So, who is willing to search for a Tesla patent, that shows a frequency doubler circuit?

Void: »If a person can't back up what they are suggesting with at least some sort of basic test setup, then what
have they really got? Just words...«

And a lot of saved money instead of non-working stuff due to having no idea whats going on in the setup. First switch on the brain then the transformers.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #153 on: January 15, 2018, 08:25:37 PM »
core: »So look at the problem from a different direction, because in the last 7 years basically every type of coil configuration has been used.«

Can't remember seeing the below configuration yet.


I understand where you are going, but are you really convinced there is one magical coil combination that is the secret? On the most basic level in order to provide more energy you need a fuel source, that should be no mystery. What are you guessing is the fuel source? An analogy would be a cutting torch, acetylene will ignite and burn but this with no air is very inefficient. Add a catalyst such as O2 and the heat output is magnified exponentially. All these devices have an additional fuel source that could easily be manipulated or controlled with a magnetic field.


Who knows what this fuel source is maybe ions, mixture of metals, some type of radio active compound? then something needs to react with that fuel source. Barbosa and Leal have 2 devices that achieve the same result, one (1) from the air and one (1) from the ground. That said, we then know that GROUND is not a requirement. So what fuel source do they use that allows them to supply more power to the output with two different devices? Is there a compound being used? does there core material draw more power? or is it just a hoax.


-Core






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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #154 on: January 15, 2018, 08:31:05 PM »
Throwing around ideas and speculation can only take you so far (which is usually not very far at all when
it comes to the topic of OU), but has anyone built any test circuits which they think actually show some
interesting or promising results based on their ideas? That's what really matters IMO.  :)
If a person can't back up what they are suggesting with at least some sort of basic test setup, then what
have they really got? Just words... ;)


But that is exactly what these forums are! These forums are not team sites or even build sites, they are places you go to and share ideas. These are the places you go to and share your words. There are better avenues out there to share work/builds.


-Core

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #154 on: January 15, 2018, 08:31:05 PM »
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Offline forest

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #155 on: January 15, 2018, 09:08:55 PM »
Core, add Richard Willis to the list... if it's not a hoax then it prove that magnetic field is the source you are  looking for..

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #156 on: January 15, 2018, 10:43:48 PM »
Core, add Richard Willis to the list... if it's not a hoax then it prove that magnetic field is the source you are  looking for..


May very well be the magnetic field, or the magnetic field is a catalyst that drives a specific process like in the analogy I gave with the cutting torch. We know that a magnetic field stores energy so if that is true then you can't get OU with just a magnetic field. You still need the energy source to store in the field.


The name Richard Willis rings a bell but I have to google him.




-Core

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #156 on: January 15, 2018, 10:43:48 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #157 on: January 15, 2018, 11:13:40 PM »
But that is exactly what these forums are! These forums are not team sites or even build sites, they are places you go to and share ideas. These are the places you go to and share your words. There are better avenues out there to share work/builds.
-Core

Naw man! There is nothing at all stopping anyone from discussing actual experimental results
they have which seem useful or which look interesting or potentially promising. :)


Here is something practical I have found from lots of experimenting that I will throw out there:
One way (the only way?) to get a current flowing on your earth ground wire is to have the earth ground
wire connected to a coil that is operating at resonance. When you connect the earth ground wire, you may
well have to adjust the operating frequency to match the new resonant frequency of the coil and earth
ground wire combined. This is standard Telsa coil stuff I think, and may possibly be what Kapanadze is
doing as well with one of his air core coils, or something along that line anyway.  This would be one
possible reason why Kapanadze has always shown his electric devices using an earth ground wire connection.

However, although having your earth ground wire resonating with your coil produces a measurable
AC current on your earth ground wire which can make light bulbs light up, this doesn't necessarily
at all equate to an overall power gain. So it seems there is probably at least a little more to it than
just that, otherwise many people would have likely achieved OU by now. :)

Another idea seems to be that the earth ground connection is used in a way which is the same as or similar to
an electrostatic induction type of effect, which somehow pulls charge from the ground and magnifies the
current, but I have experimented with this approach some and have so far never been able to get any significant
and useful earth ground current out of that. Not anything that will produce any useful amount of
power anyway. So, although this is a maybe a possibility, I haven't seen anyone being able to
demonstrate sending any significant power to a load using an approach along this line.

Keep in mind I am talking about practical things which can be put to the test in simple setups
where the actual real world practical performance can be tested and observed. Not just ideas or
claims which no one can demonstrate to do anything practical and useful. :D There is nothing wrong
at all with taking a practical based approach I think. Keeping at least one foot firmly rooted in
practical reality never hurts anything I think. :)


All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #158 on: January 16, 2018, 01:10:04 AM »
core: »What are you guessing is the fuel source?«

The negative charge of the electrons.

A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE COMPONENTS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SO FAR

1) A frequency doubler circuit. There is no other idea what those parts hidden under Stepanov's cardboard box else can be.
2) A high voltage transformer. Even in theory, without experimenting, it is clear that the high voltage secondary coil of a transformer can attract electrons from ground when connected to ground at one end.
3) Another transformer with a shorted secondary coil. Not because cosmoLV just says this, but because we can see it in the Barbosa-Leal demonstrations and also in the patent.
4) A spark gap. Most likely NOT used, because the Kapanadze device is the only device of this type which purportedly needs one.


When an open secondary coil of a transformer generates voltage, then there is a surplus of electrons on one end of the wire or on the other end, alternating. But those electrons do nothing. First the circuit has to be closed, then those electrons start to generate a magnetic field and heat. That means, if electrons are attracted from ground, they also do nothing. They have to be injected into a closed circuit first. But nevertheless the source of those electrons stays an open circuit, namely the high voltage coil connected on one end to ground. Here Bearden's theory comes into play »Don't kill the dipole«. No, we do not kill the dipole of the high voltage coil, because it is not a closed circuit. Further reading:


THE SECRET OF ELECTRICAL FREE ENERGY

»The bird sits on the high tension line without a flow of mass electricity, because there is no significant difference in potential drop between the bird and the line. Specifically, between the birds two feet -- each in contact with a different portion of the line -- there exists no potential difference. This is true even though, with respect to the vacuum, each foot is at a potential that would be "100,000 volts higher," were a mass current flowing.«

[...]

»Now notice what would happen to the bird on the line [THIS IS THE TRANSFORMER WITH THE SHORTED COIL] if we substantially "pulsed" the potential on the line [BY MEANS OF THE HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSFORMER]. Suppose we "pulsed" it such that the bird's physical system -- considered as a circuit containing a capacitance, a resistance, an inductance [NO SUCH LC CIRCUIT NEEDED, SINCE WE HAVE ALWAYS RESONANCE THANKS TO THE FREQUENCY DOUBLER CIRCUIT], and many free electrons -- became resonant to the pulsing frequency. In that case the "bird system" would resonate, and a great deal of electrical mass would surge back and forth in the body of the bird [IN THE SHORTED COIL]. In the bird's body, voltage would exist, charged mass current would flow, work would be done, and the bird would be electrocuted [THE IRON CORE WOULD BE MAGNETIZED].«

[...]

»In every conductor, a large number of "free electrons" are available. If we oscillate the actual vacuum charge itself, unlimited additional free electrons also become available from the Dirac sea, since partial "unstripping" of the negative energy wells (each containing an electron) occurs. This "unstripping" of the potential of the well is due to vacuum potential oscillation, which oscillates time as well as space. To a negative energy well (positive time), the oscillation [AT 100HZ] of its "time stream" increases the well's negative potential during one half-cycle and decreases its potential for the other half-cycle. Thus during half the oscillatory cycle, negative energy electrons may be lifted [ON THE HOT END OF THE HIGH VOLTAGE COIL] from the Dirac sea if the oscillation is sufficiently intense [THE VOLTAGE IS HIGH ENOUGH].«

So, if this does still not work, then perhaps there is one more component of the device that needs identification.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #159 on: January 16, 2018, 02:06:06 AM »
It's interesting. Regarding 'The Genesis Project', does anyone know who wrote the document
and who built the devices shown in the document? Who were those people and where are they now?
From the pictures in the document it is hard to tell whether there is anything unusual going on there
or not as they provided no details about input power and output power, and really no details at all
about how it was being powered.


Throwing around ideas and speculation can only take you so far (which is usually not very far at all when
it comes to the topic of OU), but has anyone built any test circuits which they think actually show some
interesting or promising results based on their ideas? That's what really matters IMO.  :)
If a person can't back up what they are suggesting with at least some sort of basic test setup, then what
have they really got? Just words... ;)


All the best...

F.Y.I.

The Genesis Project is but one of the probably thousands of alternate energy related
developments that have been going on since Tesla's days. Peaking around 1985 and again
around 2001, or so - many hundreds of ideas have been proven (?) to operate as claimed.

As a best estimate, world wide there are only a few dozen, if that, seriously good independent
researchers still active and most of these fellows are relatively new to the trade (hobby in
most cases).

The quest (dream) for fame and fortune and the ambition to "save the world"
gives way to a reality that life moves forward - marriage, kids, luxuries, feeding the family,
better job, security, social mobility rapidly take priority. All of the developers I've come to
know live in places where energy is plentiful, relatively cheap and reliable so, although
alternate energy can be quite interesting and exciting to work on, we are not faced with any
crucial dire need.

Most of the early (peak) researchers are, by most accounts, pretty bright and
most have secured excellent careers, some in advanced energy development; engineering
science or business - our "quest of an alternate energy - hobby" has paid off handsomely
many fold. And most are still possessed with the "curse of the ever curious!"

It's worth noting that there are scores of practical devices in use all over the place, some
in plain sight and, as I write, there are many quite serious ongoing efforts to advance the art.

It would be myopic to view the advanced energy field through the "OU" chat boards alone. They
are (used to be?) a good introduction to the subject with good theoretical and practical discussion.
Read the first ten (10) or so pages of nearly any (older) thread and you'll see what I mean.

However, once your goal is achieved - your device is well enough along - why hang around a board
and (lately) be argued with, demeaned,derated and called faker, or worse;  not worth it, you wouldn't,
nor would I (maybe an occasional F.Y.I. - FIN, hopefully as a value-added contribution, but that's it !)

Try this link, it may answer some of your questions/comments:

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bcontent1.htm
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bcontent2.htm

If your looking for a viable "paint by numbers" OU scheme posted on a public board,
then - All the best...

FIN

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #159 on: January 16, 2018, 02:06:06 AM »
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Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #160 on: January 16, 2018, 03:18:15 AM »
The Genesis Project is but one of the probably thousands of alternate energy related
developments that have been going on since Tesla's days. Peaking around 1985 and again
around 2001, or so - many hundreds of ideas have been proven (?) to operate as claimed.

Hi Solarlab. You seem to have taken my specific question asking if anyone has more info about
'The Genesis Project' as a general question about OU research.  I am actually quite familiar with
the whole 'OU research' scene and have been involved myself for quite a few years already.
I was really wondering if anyone knows more details about 'The Genesis Project' specifically.
Does anyone know if those devices shown in the document have ever been demonstrated on
video or elsewhere, or know any details about who built those devices shown in the document?


All the best...
« Last Edit: January 16, 2018, 07:02:00 AM by Void »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #161 on: January 16, 2018, 04:59:13 AM »
core: »What are you guessing is the fuel source?«

The negative charge of the electrons.

A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE COMPONENTS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SO FAR

1) A frequency doubler circuit. There is no other idea what those parts hidden under Stepanov's cardboard box else can be.
2) A high voltage transformer. Even in theory, without experimenting, it is clear that the high voltage secondary coil of a transformer can attract electrons from ground when connected to ground at one end.
3) Another transformer with a shorted secondary coil. Not because cosmoLV just says this, but because we can see it in the Barbosa-Leal demonstrations and also in the patent.
4) A spark gap. Most likely NOT used, because the Kapanadze device is the only device of this type which purportedly needs one.


When an open secondary coil of a transformer generates voltage, then there is a surplus of electrons on one end of the wire or on the other end, alternating. But those electrons do nothing. First the circuit has to be closed, then those electrons start to generate a magnetic field and heat. That means, if electrons are attracted from ground, they also do nothing. They have to be injected into a closed circuit first. But nevertheless the source of those electrons stays an open circuit, namely the high voltage coil connected on one end to ground. Here Bearden's theory comes into play »Don't kill the dipole«. No, we do not kill the dipole of the high voltage coil, because it is not a closed circuit. Further reading:


THE SECRET OF ELECTRICAL FREE ENERGY

»The bird sits on the high tension line without a flow of mass electricity, because there is no significant difference in potential drop between the bird and the line. Specifically, between the birds two feet -- each in contact with a different portion of the line -- there exists no potential difference. This is true even though, with respect to the vacuum, each foot is at a potential that would be "100,000 volts higher," were a mass current flowing.«

[...]

»Now notice what would happen to the bird on the line [THIS IS THE TRANSFORMER WITH THE SHORTED COIL] if we substantially "pulsed" the potential on the line [BY MEANS OF THE HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSFORMER]. Suppose we "pulsed" it such that the bird's physical system -- considered as a circuit containing a capacitance, a resistance, an inductance [NO SUCH LC CIRCUIT NEEDED, SINCE WE HAVE ALWAYS RESONANCE THANKS TO THE FREQUENCY DOUBLER CIRCUIT], and many free electrons -- became resonant to the pulsing frequency. In that case the "bird system" would resonate, and a great deal of electrical mass would surge back and forth in the body of the bird [IN THE SHORTED COIL]. In the bird's body, voltage would exist, charged mass current would flow, work would be done, and the bird would be electrocuted [THE IRON CORE WOULD BE MAGNETIZED].«

[...]

»In every conductor, a large number of "free electrons" are available. If we oscillate the actual vacuum charge itself, unlimited additional free electrons also become available from the Dirac sea, since partial "unstripping" of the negative energy wells (each containing an electron) occurs. This "unstripping" of the potential of the well is due to vacuum potential oscillation, which oscillates time as well as space. To a negative energy well (positive time), the oscillation [AT 100HZ] of its "time stream" increases the well's negative potential during one half-cycle and decreases its potential for the other half-cycle. Thus during half the oscillatory cycle, negative energy electrons may be lifted [ON THE HOT END OF THE HIGH VOLTAGE COIL] from the Dirac sea if the oscillation is sufficiently intense [THE VOLTAGE IS HIGH ENOUGH].«

So, if this does still not work, then perhaps there is one more component of the device that needs identification.

Here:

Partial demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFP6c7lwyoE

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #162 on: January 16, 2018, 06:59:46 AM »
It's time to break this wide open, once and for all...
Electrons schmecktrons. This is the real secret.

;D


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #163 on: January 16, 2018, 12:22:16 PM »

(...) You still need the energy source to store in the field.(..)
-Core


How about electric current store magnetic field into iron core ? How about this core being inside Earth ? :-) So...? Now we can't tap permanent magnet energy ,right ? What if ....it's not permanent but electro-magnet ?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #164 on: January 16, 2018, 01:01:44 PM »
Void :D :D

Hi Zeit :)
The two transformers schematic is very interesting. If i recall right you have said that resistor and capacitor are responsible for the doubling of frequency. The reason of doubling is due to the full bridge rectification. I just wonder what is the role of resistance over there. Is there any idea? Ιn addition, does anyone know where to find a transformer 220 to 2000V except of MOTS which consume one ton of wattage?

Regards

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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