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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 31326 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #135 on: January 15, 2018, 12:15:05 AM »
Void: »The fact that they do seem to have dropped those devices for several years now and have moved into something completely different which involves a new chemical process for electrolysis [...] Kapanadze on the other hand has shown apparent self runners up close with no (detectable) connection to the grid on a number of occasions«

Something completely different? What if they generate the electricity needed for the electrolysis for free, just pretending a new chemical process? And if the Kapanadze device works, then why of all things the Barbosa-Leal device should not?

EVOLUÇÕES HIDROGÁS: »This innovative process for obtaining hydrogen makes viable technical, economic and environmental issues, since, among its main factors, it does not use electricity, since the energy required to break the water molecule is provided by the very chemical reaction«

They should win the Nobel Prize for that, because in essence it says, a newly discovered chemical reaction provides free energy.


THE CONDUCTIVE INTERCONNECTION ELEMENT

WO2013104042A1, Portuguese: »Um diagrama mostra a indução 6 ao redor do núcleo "X" da bobina 1. Com a indução ocorre a circulação da corrente elétrica 7 no elo/espira condutor 4, atraindo os elétrons da terra, através do membro condutor 5, para o campo magnético do captor, onde os elétrons se juntam com a corrente gerada por indução no elo/espira condutor 4 circulando entre os poios magnéticos norte e sul.«

Translation with comments: »A diagram shows the induction 6 around the core "X" of the coil 1 [PRIMARY COIL ON AN IRON CORE]. With the induction occurs the circulation of electric current 7 in the loop coil conductor 4 [LIKE SHORTED ARC WELDER TRANSFORMER], attracting the electrons of the earth, through the conductor 5 [GROUNDING], to the magnetic field of the captor, where the electrons join [WHY SHOULD THE ELECTRONS DO THAT?] with the current generated by induction in the loop coil conductor 4 circulating between the North and South magnetic poles [OF THE IRON CORE].«

WO2013104042A1, Portuguese: »O equipamento objeto da presente invenção funciona da seguinte forma: o dispositivo gerador de campo eletromagnético ao ser alimentado por uma fonte de energia elétrica, produz um campo eletromagnético que induz uma corrente elétrica no elemento condutor em circuito fechado em si mesmo, criando uma interação um entre os poios magnéticos do equipamento e os poios magnéticos da terra, passando a haver - através de atração e repulsão eletromagnética - um fornecimento infindável de elétrons da terra para o elemento condutor em circuito fechado em si mesmo, que é ligado a uma malha de aterramento, através do elemento condutor de interligação. Os elétrons atraídos se somam à corrente presente que circula no elemento condutor em circuito fechado em si mesmo, de onde é disponibilizada energia elétrica para alimentação de cargas de elevadas potências, embora o equipamento objeto da presente invenção seja alimentado com uma pequena potência. Desse modo, de maneira vantajosa, o equipamento objeto da presente invenção revela-se um captor de elétrons da terra, para geração de energia elétrica.«

Translation with comments: »The object equipment of the present invention operates as follows: the electromagnetic field generating device [TRANSFORMER] to be powered by a power source, produces an electromagnetic field that induces an electric current in the conducting element in a closed circuit in itself [OK, BUT AC NOT DC IS NEEDED FOR THAT], creating an interaction between one of the magnetic poles of the equipment and the magnetic poles of the earth, [STRANGE, MAGNETIC GROUNDING??], passing there - through electromagnetic [NOT ELECTROSTATIC??] attraction and repulsion - an endless ground supply of electrons to the conductive element in a closed circuit in itself, which is connected to a grounding grid through the conductive element of interconnection [WHAT KIND OF ELEMENT COULD THAT BE??]. The attracted electrons are added to the current flowing in this conductive member closed looped in itself [LIKE ARC WELDER TRANSFORMER], where it is available for power supply of high power loads while the equipment object of the present invention is powered with a small power [OVERUNITY]. Thus, advantageously, the apparatus object of the present invention discloses an earth electron trap, for generating electric energy.«

Therefore, what is a »conductive element of interconnection«, the »elemento condutor de interligação«? One conductive element is the closed loop. The other conductive element is the one that makes the interconnection between the closed loop and the ground, hence called »interligação«. If this element would be a simple connection between the closed loop and the ground wire, then why call it »elemento«? In the patent drawings that element is marked with concentric circles; therefore it must be something special. Since the electrons from ground are attracted in order to be injected and to cycle in the closed loop, it can't be a capacitor (electrostatic induction), it has to be something that conducts electrons, but nevertheless it is not a straightforward galvanic (metallic) connection. Could that »something« be a diode? A diode that can reverse its polarity according to the 50Hz or 100Hz grid frequency? When a positive electrostatic field attracts electrons from ground into the closed loop through a diode, the electrons have no other choice as to stay in that closed loop (for at least one alternating cycle) until the diode's polarity is reversed. Sounds logical, but what's the catch? A diode that can reverse its polarity has to be constructed of two thyristors (each 3 pin) connected back to back on heat sinks suitable for a ground current of 22 amps inclusive wiring. I can't see such a thing on Kapanadze's work bench in 2004 video. Then could that »elemento« be a spark gap? A spark firing with 22 amps would for sure create a lot of noise (given the spark gap would fire at all). There is no such noise to be heard, so we can rule out that »elemento« too. What's left?

Interestingly in the Barbosa-Leal demonstration video (the disappeared one), the closed loop is made of heavy wire 240mm2 measuring hundreds of amperes and a lot of heat, whereas the ground wire is made of a rather thin green wire. Does this suggest, that here the electrons from ground are attracted once - without generating much amps and heat in the ground wire - and then kept circulating in the loop more than one alternating cycle? Don't know.


PROJECT BRAINSTORM

But what about a coil? Could the »elemento condutor de interligação« be a coil of some sort? Let's say, the high voltage that attracts and repels electrons from ground initially works at 100Hz, whereas the ground wire is wrapped around an iron core with a magnetic field oscillating at 50Hz; namely the iron core of the transformer we already have. Or, optionally - also called vice versa -, we could wrap it around a 100Hz transformer and the counterpart works at 50Hz. The coil then is actually an additional open secondary coil of a transformer, one side connected to ground and one side to the closed looped secondary. An open secondary coil generates voltage, that means the closed high current circuit is not connected to dead ground but to a ground biased with voltage. Here the theoretical question arises: A non-closed secondary coil of a transformer generates alternating (high) voltage, hence there is a surplus of electrons (negative) on one end of the wire and there is a lack of electrons (positive) on the other end, alternating at 50Hz. But what if one end of the coil is connected to ground? Since ground provides an unlimited supply of electrons, there can never be a lack of electrons on that end; that end can never be positive. Does that mean, the other end of the coil - the open one - can supply a surplus of electrons, because that end is now more negative (ultra negative) than the normal ground negative, as compensation for the positive end forced to be normal negative? If so, and that secondary coil is a high voltage coil, providing lots of electrons to be injected in the closed 2 to 4 windings circuit, then could that mean, we can mix high voltage low current with low voltage high current and get as result high voltage with high current through the magnetic field of the iron core? Could it be, high voltage 100Hz is not (exclusively) needed to create an electrostatic attraction via a spark gap, but to route the ground wire through the secondary coil of that transformer? Two transformers, one pumps electrons from ground, the other captures them? If the electrons from ground are attracted by means of (through) a high voltage coil, then of course a thin green ground wire would be sufficient. Though it's unclear, why Kapanadze needs a thick one. Could it happen, Kapanadze's »so simple you'll laugh« is not simple enough? Can we make it even simpler?

As we can see, the closed looped coil conductor 4 is marked with a plus-sign, meaning a positive voltage has to be connected to that coil; »condutor 4 polarizado com tensão«. Does it make sense to connect a positive voltage to a coil connected at the same time to ground? Not if connected to ground directly, but what if connected to ground through the coil of a magnetic field generating transformer? The higher the voltage generated by the secondary coil when grounded on one end, the more surplus electrons (negativity) compared to ground will appear on the other end. Hence it is easy to attract and repel electrons from ground, it needs just a high voltage transformer with its secondary coil single-sided connected to ground. The other, more difficult (non-obvious) thing is, to do something useful with those attracted electrons. But at least we are still within the scope of an odd connected three-phase transformer. No rocket science needed so far.

A very interesting thing here is this: If the closed loop is not ground but positive and it can (but it is not imperative) be connected to phase of the grid (the polarized version), then, since we know for sure the grid frequency is 50Hz, in the non-polarized version the closed loop has to be connected to a voltage at 50Hz (if at all), which leaves for the ground transformer most likely only the choice of 100Hz, if we assume that those two frequencies are involved. On the other hand, if the closed loop, namely the one that comes in shape of the copper pipe, is connected to a high voltage transformer, it would make sense to insulate it, like seen in the wooden box demonstration, but connecting it at the same time to grid, should not be the best idea. Besides, what is the polarized version good for? I don't get it.

Well, I'm still not convinced that a spark gap is needed; looking at the epoxy resin I rather tend to say no. Also I have no idea whether the high voltage pulses should be sharp or not, or if there should be ionization or not (ionization in epoxy resin?), or if there is ionization but as a by-product and not really needed, or whether cosmoLV knows how the device works but spreads lots of disinformation deliberately, or if he just think he knows, but he does not really know or not fully. It's very difficult to stay on track regarding this subject and not to diverge from the correct path when turning that whole stuff upside down every few days. When we finally have a working setup, then we will know for certain what was real information and what was just mumbo jumbo and distraction; guess ninety-nine percent disinfo at the minimum. I'm looking forward to it.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #136 on: January 15, 2018, 03:53:11 AM »
So look at the problem from a different direction, because in the last 7 years basically every type of coil configuration has been used. Be honest, nobody has really gotten any closer to a device or even a whiff of free energy. Remember the first post on the original TK thread? yep everyone is still there, same goes for the Barbosa & Leal device.


Pretend for one minute the a specific coil combination is not the solution. However lets think in terms of amplifying the power in the core material (iron) without increasing the core size. A current will flow in a magnetized core, imagine if you could amplify this current. What would be the result? This is no more Pie in the sky then the last 7 years of failed speculation.


Some dude on the Clemente Figuera thread started putting this idea out there but he/she never returned.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2018, 04:10:11 AM »
..... So I am saying FE is not found in a coil or coils but is hidden in the irons ability to absorb more or draw more energy on its own with the aid of a magnetic field.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #139 on: January 15, 2018, 10:18:03 AM »
Imagine what would we have if we could arrange a meeting of McFarland Cook,Figuera,Hubbard,Hendershot,Kapanadze,Barbosa and Leal with little help of Tesla ?


Actually what I read here is exact implementation of Tesla method of pulling energy from ambient medium. Do you realize that Tito already described the capacitive version of this method (somehow used by Hendershot also and probably in Tesla mystic Piearce Arrow car ? ) ?


Explain please why we have voltage (potential) difference between Earth ground and the upper atmosphere ?  Something which Don Smith funny explained ? When ground is unity then everything above ground is overunity ;-) That maybe important question to consider WHY ?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #140 on: January 15, 2018, 10:18:34 AM »
Whenever you put a core into a coil you get overunity


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #142 on: January 15, 2018, 10:27:47 AM »
Oh another Kapanadze  topic.
so here is my theory:

Kapanadze told us three things:

1.Simple as you would laugh
2.He find a method of auto resonance.
3.Some sort of tesla coil that takes energy from space.

well, if we can take kapanadze words as truth then this idea comes to mind:

it is possible to design a tesla coil resonator in such a way that it will always resonate at maximum efficiency no matter how big or small the capacitance is? if so than what would happened if we change capacitance value very fast for such circuit? (using spark gap to give or take electrons from some metal?) kapanadze was using coax cable for his older devices, this cable can be used as capacitor and inductor.This is a good start http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgenesis.htm

1. how about just a transformer? HV into the primary and you can take 230V out of the secondary.
2. Slayer exciter. Secondary is kept in resonance with the feedback loop. Third "load" coil feeds of from he same core
3. does resonance take energy from "space"? maybe it does

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #143 on: January 15, 2018, 12:06:33 PM »
Imagine what would we have if we could arrange a meeting of McFarland Cook,Figuer a, Hubbard,Hendershot,Kapanadze,Barbosa and Leal with little help of Tesla ?
Err this isn't the real world, since they are all in the spirit world and earth problems to them no longer matter, and what if could happen, it would be a closed shop unless we could listen in
Explain please why we have voltage (potential) difference between Earth ground and the upper atmosphere ?  Something which Don Smith funny explained ? When ground is unity then everything above ground is overunity ;-) That maybe important question to consider WHY ?
No it's not, as at each upper level all are at the same potential it's only with respect to one leg of the capacitor or earth, Some Russian guy explained we live in side a large capacitor, all this is common knowledge in there schools, America is about control politics and toxic food Monsanamo and depopulation, are you American Oh bad luck as far as that's concerned all they want is slaves and robots and dumb down population with toxic annual dosing as the man made virus is no longer active but the toxicity collects in your brain.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #144 on: January 15, 2018, 12:17:01 PM »
the amperage can be controlled by voltage difference ? if we could send a thick wire from ground to outer cosmic space we could generate electric power in huge amount. Tesla said it will work by cooling the Earth, but maybe it's different ?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #145 on: January 15, 2018, 12:20:15 PM »
core: »So look at the problem from a different direction, because in the last 7 years basically every type of coil configuration has been used.«

Can't remember seeing the below configuration yet.

In that case the three mysterious things, we allegedly need to 'get' something, would be: 1) A high voltage transformer with an open secondary coil (voltage, no current); 2) a low voltage transformer with a shorted secondary coil (current, no voltage); 3) a frequency doubler that runs the high voltage transformer; all connected appropriately together.

Zeitmaschine on July 14, 2015, 03:05 PM: »I would guess, a real working device would look like nothing, maybe you wouldn't even recognize it when you see it.«

Could be, there is ionization involved too. Anyhow, such a construction should be possible with a simple three-phase transformer and a few additional electric standard components, so one can stumble upon it occasionally by chance while working with that kind of transformers.

But I still can't see why there should be a connection between the primary coil (grid) and the secondary coil (looped), or why there should be an additional bias voltage connected to the closed loop, since that closed loop is connected to high voltage already. But what I do see, is a simple method, to adjust a resonance between two coils (Kapanadze).


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #146 on: January 15, 2018, 12:43:35 PM »
Yes  ;D I bet it weighs a tun since it looks like it has 2 microwave transformers and is deadly !
has any one tried building it ? also R and C will depend on current. If I were you I would try it
at reasonably small scale level with recovered adapter transformers and see if the principle works
before the shorted transformer burns out!

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #147 on: January 15, 2018, 12:46:15 PM »
Have a look at this circuit !
For me many ideas spring to mind with this circuit 'it's' just an idea with many problems to iron out!
The driver stage if left as is will draw loads of DC and the base driver circuit might need modification
in it's bias circuit and the output stage might also need some attention or modifying.

However the output drive is modulated carrier wave drive, say no more play with it as you wish but if you find anything please report back so we can all benefit from it !

« Last Edit: January 15, 2018, 02:48:53 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #148 on: January 15, 2018, 01:45:19 PM »
AlienGrey: »If I were you I would try it at reasonably small scale level with recovered adapter transformers«

Yes, smaller transformers, higher frequency, till it looks and works like the Steven Mark TPU. Maybe here the closed loop high frequency transformer is in the toroid and the high voltage high frequency transformer in the center box. I would guess, if the working frequency is higher there is no need for a massive ground; could work with a relatively small piece of metal - given that thing works at all.


And why are there two switches on Kapanadze's green box? One to cut the power to the load, and one to cut the closed circuit, so it can start with no load and an open closed looped coil?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #149 on: January 15, 2018, 05:46:10 PM »
Oh another Kapanadze  topic.
so here is my theory:

Kapanadze told us three things:

1.Simple as you would laugh
2.He find a method of auto resonance.
3.Some sort of tesla coil that takes energy from space.

well, if we can take kapanadze words as truth then this idea comes to mind:

it is possible to design a tesla coil resonator in such a way that it will always resonate at maximum efficiency no matter how big or small the capacitance is? if so than what would happened if we change capacitance value very fast for such circuit? (using spark gap to give or take electrons from some metal?) kapanadze was using coax cable for his older devices, this cable can be used as capacitor and inductor.This is a good start http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgenesis.htm

PolaczekCebulaczek - Thanks, good info and link!

F.Y.I.

A revised link with the "Chart 9" (picture) is here:

http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/


Note: Page also refers to the use (importance) of the Dirac equation
with a simple, but excellent, tie-in explanation.

Zeitmaschine - enjoying your interesting work, Thank you!


FIN

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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