Solid States Devices > Resonance Circuits and Systems
The secret to Overunity
Tajerek:
The energy stored in a capacitor is a function of the voltage across it and the capacitance.
http://www.calctool.org/CALC/eng/electronics/capacitor_energy.png
Stepping up the voltage to any desired high value is very easy to do with the use of a high voltage module. Example is a flyback transformer. This means large amount of energy W can be created and stored inside a capacitor from any source of small input voltage and current. The time it takes to create this energy is calculated as 5 *RC, while RC being the time constant.
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/ac_theory/images/Fig-4-3-1.jpg
We have to select low ESB capacitor if we want to rapidly create this energy with a rate of hundreds of thousands of times each second.
I propose to dump this energy directly into an inductor after each recharge. When the LC tank circuit is in resonance the entirety of the capacitor energy is transferred to the inductor and stored in its magnetic field. The equation of this energy is
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/302l/lectures/img1085.png
This means the previous electric energy is now to magnetic and thereby yielding desired amperage. Again the amount of amperage across the inductor does not depend on the source dipole at all.
The third stage of this energy creation is to direct this useful amperage we created across the inductor towards a load. I propose to do this by the use of coupled inductors. The set up is similar to a flyback converter circuit where the primary inductor stores the energy in the magnetic field then the secondary inductor releases it into the load, this insures the isolation from the high voltage side to the lower voltage high amperage side.
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The winding ratio and the wire gauge used in the coupled inductor can be adjusted so to output the desired voltage and amperage.
The final circuit is the following:
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The spark gap can be replaced with any switching mechanism, such as transistor, high voltage power Mosphet, mechanical relays, opto-coupler…etc The most important is to match resonant frequency of the LC to guarantee at each cycle the energy gets fully transferred from the electric field of the capacitor C1 to the magnetic field of the inductor L1. Then released by L2 in the form of current out to the load and output capacitor C2. I leave it up to the savvy experimenters to design the proper switching and ways of tuning the frequency.
As explained in the beginning, this quantity of energy W fed into the load is not by any means proportionally related to the input source since we can step up the voltage to any value and increase the energy. I confidently state that Overunity is scientifically proved by the calculations.
The generated energy is only a function of the components used and their proper tuning and relation to each other.
I will conclude by an insightful quote of Mr Nikola Tesla in support of my above claims:
--- Quote ---Most of the results enumerated, and many others still more remarkable, are made possible only by utilizing the discharges of a condenser. It is probable that but a very few--even among those who are working in these identical fields--fully appreciate what a wonderful instrument such a condenser is in reality. Let me convey an idea to this effect. One may take a condenser, small enough to go in one's vest pocket, and by skillfully using it he may create an electrical pressure vastly in excess--a hundred times greater if necessary--than any producible by the largest static machine ever constructed. Or, he may take the same condenser and, using it in a different way, he may obtain from it currents against which those of the most powerful welding machine are utterly insignificant. Those who are imbued with popular notions as to the pressures of static machines and currents obtainable with a commercial transformer, will be astonished at this statement--yet the truth of it is easy to see. Such results are obtainable, and easily, because the condenser can discharge the stored energy in an inconceivably short time. Nothing like this property is known in physical science. A compressed spring, or a storage battery, or any other form of device capable of storing energy, cannot do this; if they could, things undreamt of at present might be accomplished by their means. The nearest approach to a charged condenser is a high explosive, as dynamite. But even the most violent explosion of such a compound bears no comparison with the discharge or explosion of a condenser. For, while the pressures which are produced in the detonation of a chemical compound are measured in tens of tons per square inch, those which may be caused by condenser discharges may amount to thousands of tons per square inch, and if a chemical could be made which would explode as quickly as a condenser can be discharged under conditions which are realizable--an ounce of it would quite certainly be sufficient to render useless the largest battleship.
That important realizations would follow from the use of an instrument possessing such ideal properties I have been convinced since long ago, but I also recognized early that great difficulties would have to be overcome before it could replace less perfect implements now used in the arts for the manifold transformations of electrical energy. These difficulties were many. The condensers themselves, as usually manufactured, were inefficient, the conductors wasteful, the best insulation inadequate, and the conditions for the most efficient conversion were hard to adjust and to maintain. One difficulty, however, which was more serious than the others, and to which I called attention when I first described this system of energy transformation, was found in the devices necessarily used for controlling the charges and discharges of the condenser.
Source:
HIGH FREQUENCY OSCILLATORS FOR ELECTRO-THERAPEUTIC AND OTHER PURPOSES
by Nikola Tesla
The Electrical Engineer.
Vol. XXVI.
November 17, 1898. No. 550
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citfta:
Higher voltage does NOT mean higher energy. Another rookie mistake. Higher voltage generated by whatever means always means lower current. The total energy is actually less because of resistance losses.
Tajerek:
--- Quote from: citfta on December 17, 2017, 10:12:08 PM ---Higher voltage does NOT mean higher energy. Another rookie mistake. Higher voltage generated by whatever means always means lower current. The total energy is actually less because of resistance losses.
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Higher voltage doesn't mean higher power because P=U*I . And voltage is stepped up the current is reduced to conserve same overall power of less.
BUT I am not talking about that energy. What I am talking about is higher voltage means HIGHER ELECTRIC ENERGY STORED INSIDE THE ELECTRIC FIELD OF A CAPACITOR. It is energy that does not depend on the current my friend and amounts to 1/2 *C*V squared. Check the first formula in my previous post.
Belfior:
replying to citfta
True, but if you HV through a resonating coils system the rewards are much bigger.
Also a load behind a cap (and in my mind also the secondary of a ferrite transformer) do not know how much amps were used to charge it. Just how much voltage (or flux created by voltage) there was.
Just put a steel ring over your tesla coil and then discharge a cap to that coil. Use a 1000V 60mA source to charge the cap and then a 10A 1000V source. Does the ring jump higher with the 10A source?
Void:
--- Quote from: Tajerek on December 17, 2017, 10:51:19 PM ---Higher voltage doesn't mean higher power because P=U*I . And voltage is stepped up the current is reduced to conserve same overall power of less.
BUT I am not talking about that energy. What I am talking about is higher voltage means HIGHER ELECTRIC ENERGY STORED INSIDE THE ELECTRIC FIELD OF A CAPACITOR. It is energy that does not depend on the current my friend and amounts to 1/2 *C*V squared. Check the first formula in my previous post.
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Hi Tajerek. Unfortunately voltage alone does not cause a capacitor to become charged,
it takes current (flow of charge) to charge up a capacitor, which takes time (as indicated by
the RC time constant). Discharging a cap into a resonant tank circuit also does not (under normal
conditions) provide any more energy than what was stored in the capacitor. In order to achieve OU,
something very out of the ordinary will have to be going on, otherwise it should be easy to achieve OU,
but it seems it is not so easy at all to achieve OU. What do you think is very unusual about what
you are describing that will cause excess energy to be drawn into the setup you have described?
All the best...
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