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Author Topic: The secret to Overunity  (Read 18243 times)

Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #210 on: January 11, 2018, 10:14:16 PM »
Against my better judgment I am going to reply to this post of yours.  Please do not interpret it as the beginnings of an exchange, we have been down that road, we have nothing in common, I do not care to repeat any of our low moments.  This reply is to establish my position with regards to some of the statements you've made.


I am trying to get a better appreciation for the difference between 2 words.
 Opposite
 Opposition
 Opposite forces can be complimentary, push-pull, positive-negative,,,
 Oppositional forces preclude either from doing work.
 My take so far is that if you build a complimentary system "you" put in all the energy and as such "you" can take it back out, whereas if you build an oppositional system "you" put in no energy do to no change in some part of the system that the opposition precludes.


if you say so.....  the idea I see repeated often is the majority cannot identify unity in what they consider opposite or oppositional.
 
so, for every action there is an opposing reaction, could there also be a complimentary condition as well?


One can setup a relatively simple experiment and from said experiment inform oneself of the inaccuracy of the above stated in bold.  We must recognize as fact that reaction is simultaneous-sequential with action!  Our inability to observe this on the bench lies in our lack of understanding, and this coupled with poor experiments to verify the same.


If so, could the input be an oppositional condition where the Universe supplies the complimentary component?
 This is what I am playing with in the mechanical realm using levers and gravity, looking for the Universe to supply a reactionary response.
 


I find it curious how from a comfortable position of ignorance, we contemplate the possibility of the universe aiding us in perpetuating our ignorance....
The universe isn't going to help anyone, shouldn't be expected to assist anyone who isn't in the position to help him/herself.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #210 on: January 11, 2018, 10:14:16 PM »

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #211 on: January 11, 2018, 10:52:23 PM »
I understand that the reaction is simultaneous with the action, did not imply that it was not.


Must be nice to not have walked through the ignorance before getting the understanding.  It is, after all, only having made ones way through the ignorance that they can convey the path to others.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #212 on: January 12, 2018, 11:57:35 AM »

you aren't paying attention.....

We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.

Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #213 on: January 12, 2018, 12:16:15 PM »
We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.


no....I am quite sure you aren't paying attention.....


if you think that video you linked is about "overunity", well, I don't want to insult you, so, I respectfully leave you to your endeavors...


notwithstanding all that I have said with regards to my demonstration, and all that has been said by me in other threads as they relate to this one, if all you can see is a welding machine, you are respectfully a lost cause.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #214 on: January 12, 2018, 12:33:12 PM »
I understand that the reaction is simultaneous with the action, did not imply that it was not.


no....neither simultaneous, nor sequential..... SIMULTANEOUS-SEQUENTIAL!  comprehend that!


Must be nice to not have walked through the ignorance before getting the understanding.  It is, after all, only having made ones way through the ignorance that they can convey the path to others.


my purpose is not to convey the (a, or any) path to others....  all lack knowledge till they don't...  understanding that your ignorance grows with insight and revelation, respecting that you are a fart in the wind away from your beginnings no matter how far you delude yourself to perceiving "progress being made" is your curse until that glorious day when the ignorance which centers you is replaced with knowledge which is extended to you from we know not where.... we call it inspiration, it hits us in waves which leave one momentary blind...(blind flash of insight....), in higher forms, distilled by ...within us.... impressions are for lack of descriptive language....divine, the latter choice of word has no biblical, spiritual, nor religious connotation.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #214 on: January 12, 2018, 12:33:12 PM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #215 on: January 12, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »
We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.


The tin dreadco can holds a voltaic pile and an hv transformer (low current, high voltage)
This in turn is fed to two electrodes, one with high electrostatic resistance, one with low
resistance. (Rounded and pointed)
This drives the brass buttons.


David jones was a genius, some of his devices are "perpetual",
This one should run for at least another decade.
But not "overunity", by the definition of the word.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #216 on: January 12, 2018, 01:58:50 PM »

no....neither simultaneous, nor sequential..... SIMULTANEOUS-SEQUENTIAL!  comprehend that!



my purpose is not to convey the (a, or any) path to others....  all lack knowledge till they don't...  understanding that your ignorance grows with insight and revelation, respecting that you are a fart in the wind away from your beginnings no matter how far you delude yourself to perceiving "progress being made" is your curse until that glorious day when the ignorance which centers you is replaced with knowledge which is extended to you from we know not where.... we call it inspiration, it hits us in waves which leave one momentary blind...(blind flash of insight....), in higher forms, distilled by ...within us.... impressions are for lack of descriptive language....divine, the latter choice of word has no biblical, spiritual, nor religious connotation.


So are you going to show us the "secret" to your motor?
Or are you just tooting your horn to a frequency beyond
Our range of hearing?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #217 on: January 12, 2018, 02:23:20 PM »
So are you going to show us the "secret" to your motor?


nope.... if you think its worth figuring out, you will, if you don't, you won't...

Or are you just tooting your horn to a frequency beyond
Our range of hearing?


if that's how you choose to interpret what I am doing... so be it....

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #218 on: January 12, 2018, 03:39:19 PM »

no....neither simultaneous, nor sequential..... SIMULTANEOUS-SEQUENTIAL!  comprehend that!
You do realize that that phrase is silly, right?


Here is a simpler experiment for you to wrap your head around:
Move from one area to another.
That is the experiment,, I know it is difficult and requires a lot of special knowledge to perform.
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my purpose is not to convey the (a, or any) path to others....  all lack knowledge till they don't...  understanding that your ignorance grows with insight and revelation, respecting that you are a fart in the wind away from your beginnings no matter how far you delude yourself to perceiving "progress being made" is your curse until that glorious day when the ignorance which centers you is replaced with knowledge which is extended to you from we know not where.... we call it inspiration, it hits us in waves which leave one momentary blind...(blind flash of insight....), in higher forms, distilled by ...within us.... impressions are for lack of descriptive language....divine, the latter choice of word has no biblical, spiritual, nor religious connotation.


Think about the experiment, describe the action that was observed.
You move from hear to there,, now, when do you change to "moving from here" to "moving to there"?
If I place a doorway between here and there,, what does that change?  Only how the event will be described, adding in useless information and defining a direction when there is only a relative event.


You can not have the nail hit by the hammer if the hammer does not hit the nail, it is an event not 2 separate things.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #219 on: January 12, 2018, 04:28:04 PM »
You do realize that that phrase is silly, right?


spoken like one who don't get it.....


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #220 on: January 13, 2018, 10:55:53 AM »
Err pardon me but shouldn't we be exposing perhaps selections of circuit techniques or disusing them, rather than having re runs of quote flash backs from Kung fu  Chinese Tae Che from master Po (Keyle Luke).

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #221 on: January 13, 2018, 11:26:45 AM »
Err pardon me but shouldn't we be exposing perhaps selections of circuit techniques or disusing them, rather than having re runs of quote flash backs from Kung fu  Chinese Tae Che from master Po (Keyle Luke).

Allen


I am not going to present any of my circuits, circuits are a means to an end, they are not the source of the energy I am trying to manifest and liberate in my systems.... If you got a circuit, sections of circuit techniques that can deliver an effective means of generating and harvesting, or rerouting reactive power, show em.   

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #222 on: January 13, 2018, 02:42:08 PM »
Well all I can say to you is if you don't want to disclose any ideas or active device sections why on earth should we. There are plenty of devices and ideas on the internet only find them and build and test them.

Allen

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #223 on: January 13, 2018, 02:44:43 PM »
Err pardon me but shouldn't we be exposing perhaps selections of circuit techniques or disusing them, rather than having re runs of quote flash backs from Kung fu  Chinese Tae Che from master Po (Keyle Luke).

Allen


Well, I am playing in the mechanical\gravity area so circuit techniques are not where I am at.


IMHO there is no such thing as OU, what is labeled as OU will only be OU until all of the parts that are working together are observed and understood, then it will no longer be OU.




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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #224 on: January 13, 2018, 02:48:31 PM »
Well all I can say to you is if you don't want to disclose any ideas or active device sections why on earth should we. There are plenty of devices and ideas on the internet only find them and build and test them.

Allen


Honestly.....I am not interested in your ideas...nor sections of devices you may or may not be working on.  I am not interested in devices presented (save one or two which I have researched) on the internet.  Replicating other peoples failures will not get me where I want to be.  I am where I want to be, and share what I want, how I want. 

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