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Author Topic: The secret to Overunity  (Read 30410 times)

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #180 on: January 10, 2018, 06:00:52 PM »
If your system is an open circuit, i presume it generates AC sparks as well. According to some internet literature, electromagnetic discharge will not create a significant magnetic field because of the self-canceling effects of the ions.

https://www.quora.com/Does-plasma-generate-a-magnetic-field

The magnetic field strength of ESD discharge is around 100uT.

Sorry i don't have all the answers. I suggest you just try it out from experiments.



Since my machines use permanent magnets, I am going to go out on a limb and speculate that there is magnetic flux operating in "my" systems.... I am pulsing current into coils....current in coils produce magnetic fields....soooo.....  we aren't on the same page it seems....


Do you comprehend the difference and or commonalities between the flux of the permanent magnet, and the flux and current of a "current" carrying conductor of a "magneto-dielectric" system? 


I do not acknowledge the commonly accepted view of the dipole....as such, the monopole concept as presented makes no sense.  When we see the dipole as Nature produces and maintains it, rather than how the learned present it to us, we can say dipole and mean monopole, say monopole and mean dipole.  Present geometry of both are fundamentally fucked, no parallels can be drawn between the two..


Yeah......here's the thing....I am not just talking about systems involving them.....I am demonstrating what one can do with systems which produce them.......  fire breathing pulse motor.....show me yours!

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #180 on: January 10, 2018, 06:00:52 PM »

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2018, 11:53:07 AM »


The purpose of my demonstration is not to introduce the question of the existence of magnetic fields in plasma....  my demonstration questions the established dogma regarding the possibility and feasibility of generating and utilizing "reactive power"...


You still need to find a way to capture this power.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2018, 12:04:46 PM »

my system is open circuit....  part of the observable activity in the electrical discharge is AC.




If the electrical discharge come from one pole, like what happens in Tesla Coil, then it is called open circuit. It not, then it is just a closed circuit. I am afraid there is not much you can get from a closed circuit.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
snip...
The purpose of my demonstration is not to introduce the question of the existence of magnetic fields in plasma....  my demonstration questions the established dogma regarding the possibility and feasibility of generating and utilizing "reactive power"...
A nice dramatic demonstration too, I might add. You and I are reading from the same book, we're just on different pages with our research.
Mind you, your persistent references to Tesla's ozone generator on this forum, lifted the fog for me, and I could see one lilly pad in the pond that I've been on before but I hadn't fully explored around it  ??? . But I will explore. :)

Those sleepless nights you told me about. Well, thanks, you returned the favour!  ;)
Cheers and KneeDeep.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2018, 01:28:58 PM »

you aren't paying attention....

Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2018, 01:28:58 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2018, 01:53:57 PM »
Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?


If he told us, it wouldn't be a secret anymore.......






Magnetic field interactions in a plasma take place entirely internally.
Similar to thermal convection.
There is no external "magnetic pressure".
The net external magnetic field is neutralized by the combination of
many plasma dipoles that float around within the plasma fluid.


The plasma will respond (or deflect from) an externally applied field
However, the external field feels very little force from the plasma.


The net (external) electric field of a plasma can be thought of as coherent,
However, the magnetic field remains scattered. There is an almost evenly
distributed sets of magnetic polarities external to the plasma mass.


To compound this process, each group, or packet of plasma, within the mass,
has its own unique mass, and properties of thermal and electric convection.
Owing to its' mass, the count of ions, and non-ionized particles, groups of particles,
electric charges, and other material floating within.


These groups of differing mass, cause the plasma fluid to take on properties that are
unique to plasmas, and do not occur in liquids or gasses.


For instance, a liquid can be polarized magnetically, such that the liquid mass as a whole
accumulates to a net external magnetic dipole.
Whereas each plasma mass group within the sample of a plasma in a magnetic field,
will respond according to the mass of the individual plasma group, and its individual
magnetic field strength. Making it impossible to polarize the entire plasma sample into a
single magnetic domain.


So, while we can use an external magnetic field to redirect, or contain a plasma,
We have very little control over the internal magnetic fields, or their use as an
external driving force.




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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2018, 03:11:28 PM »
Nobody says anything about this, but since Erfinder made the videos public I guess it's alright to mention it.

Doesn't anyone notice the huge block of dielectric material the motor is sitting on with the capacitors stuck in it?

All three videos, and in the second video one wire that he is drawing the arc to/from runs into that dielectric block.

The motors are air core with a heavy dielectric polymer casing.

(PS. I am talking about electrostatic waves.)
Yeah......here's the thing....I am not just talking about systems involving them.....I am demonstrating what one can do with systems which produce them.......  fire breathing pulse motor.....show me yours!

?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2018, 03:11:28 PM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2018, 04:10:43 PM »
Brief introduction as I am a newbie. I am a retired former Industrial Arts educator attempting to keep the mind active with a shared challenge of OverUnity.  Have been an inactive observer of this website for sometime now and after a few years of trial and error, felt that it might benefit me to interact with others seeking same. I would like basic input on ethics of posting as I occasionally see less than polite references to contributors efforts. I am not certain where it is appropriate to post any personal efforts/results. Are the threads open or closed to personal input/progress? Thanks for any assistance in this area. I will post this on threads that interest me the most.



Hmmmm, 7 days and still no moderator.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 05:17:57 AM by CoastieRM2 »

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2018, 04:32:20 PM »
Ookaaay....

Then I am back to square one. Sure had me fooled.

Offline webby1

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2018, 06:30:09 PM »
I am trying to get a better appreciation for the difference between 2 words.
Opposite
Opposition
Opposite forces can be complimentary, push-pull, positive-negative,,,
Oppositional forces preclude either from doing work.
My take so far is that if you build a complimentary system "you" put in all the energy and as such "you" can take it back out, whereas if you build an oppositional system "you" put in no energy do to no change in some part of the system that the opposition precludes.


so, for every action there is an opposing reaction, could there also be a complimentary condition as well?
If so, could the input be an oppositional condition where the Universe supplies the complimentary component?
This is what I am playing with in the mechanical realm using levers and gravity, looking for the Universe to supply a reactionary response.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2018, 06:30:09 PM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #190 on: January 11, 2018, 10:52:23 PM »
I understand that the reaction is simultaneous with the action, did not imply that it was not.


Must be nice to not have walked through the ignorance before getting the understanding.  It is, after all, only having made ones way through the ignorance that they can convey the path to others.

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #191 on: January 12, 2018, 11:57:35 AM »

you aren't paying attention.....

We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #192 on: January 12, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »
We are paying attention to some machines like those mentioned in the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBNn-ids6M

And this is what overunity is about.

Sorry man, I am interested in any welding machine.


The tin dreadco can holds a voltaic pile and an hv transformer (low current, high voltage)
This in turn is fed to two electrodes, one with high electrostatic resistance, one with low
resistance. (Rounded and pointed)
This drives the brass buttons.


David jones was a genius, some of his devices are "perpetual",
This one should run for at least another decade.
But not "overunity", by the definition of the word.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #193 on: January 12, 2018, 01:58:50 PM »

no....neither simultaneous, nor sequential..... SIMULTANEOUS-SEQUENTIAL!  comprehend that!



my purpose is not to convey the (a, or any) path to others....  all lack knowledge till they don't...  understanding that your ignorance grows with insight and revelation, respecting that you are a fart in the wind away from your beginnings no matter how far you delude yourself to perceiving "progress being made" is your curse until that glorious day when the ignorance which centers you is replaced with knowledge which is extended to you from we know not where.... we call it inspiration, it hits us in waves which leave one momentary blind...(blind flash of insight....), in higher forms, distilled by ...within us.... impressions are for lack of descriptive language....divine, the latter choice of word has no biblical, spiritual, nor religious connotation.


So are you going to show us the "secret" to your motor?
Or are you just tooting your horn to a frequency beyond
Our range of hearing?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #194 on: January 12, 2018, 03:39:19 PM »

no....neither simultaneous, nor sequential..... SIMULTANEOUS-SEQUENTIAL!  comprehend that!
You do realize that that phrase is silly, right?


Here is a simpler experiment for you to wrap your head around:
Move from one area to another.
That is the experiment,, I know it is difficult and requires a lot of special knowledge to perform.
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my purpose is not to convey the (a, or any) path to others....  all lack knowledge till they don't...  understanding that your ignorance grows with insight and revelation, respecting that you are a fart in the wind away from your beginnings no matter how far you delude yourself to perceiving "progress being made" is your curse until that glorious day when the ignorance which centers you is replaced with knowledge which is extended to you from we know not where.... we call it inspiration, it hits us in waves which leave one momentary blind...(blind flash of insight....), in higher forms, distilled by ...within us.... impressions are for lack of descriptive language....divine, the latter choice of word has no biblical, spiritual, nor religious connotation.


Think about the experiment, describe the action that was observed.
You move from hear to there,, now, when do you change to "moving from here" to "moving to there"?
If I place a doorway between here and there,, what does that change?  Only how the event will be described, adding in useless information and defining a direction when there is only a relative event.


You can not have the nail hit by the hammer if the hammer does not hit the nail, it is an event not 2 separate things.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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