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Author Topic: The secret to Overunity  (Read 23117 times)

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2018, 11:53:07 AM »


The purpose of my demonstration is not to introduce the question of the existence of magnetic fields in plasma....  my demonstration questions the established dogma regarding the possibility and feasibility of generating and utilizing "reactive power"...


You still need to find a way to capture this power.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2018, 11:53:07 AM »

Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2018, 12:04:46 PM »

my system is open circuit....  part of the observable activity in the electrical discharge is AC.




If the electrical discharge come from one pole, like what happens in Tesla Coil, then it is called open circuit. It not, then it is just a closed circuit. I am afraid there is not much you can get from a closed circuit.

Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #197 on: January 11, 2018, 12:55:10 PM »

You still need to find a way to capture this power.


you aren't paying attention....

Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #198 on: January 11, 2018, 12:56:10 PM »

If the electrical discharge come from one pole, like what happens in Tesla Coil, then it is called open circuit. It not, then it is just a closed circuit. I am afraid there is not much you can get from a closed circuit.


I am not interested in the group theory on Tesla coils, nor am I interested in closed circuits.

Offline hoptoad

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
snip...
The purpose of my demonstration is not to introduce the question of the existence of magnetic fields in plasma....  my demonstration questions the established dogma regarding the possibility and feasibility of generating and utilizing "reactive power"...
A nice dramatic demonstration too, I might add. You and I are reading from the same book, we're just on different pages with our research.
Mind you, your persistent references to Tesla's ozone generator on this forum, lifted the fog for me, and I could see one lilly pad in the pond that I've been on before but I hadn't fully explored around it  ??? . But I will explore. :)

Those sleepless nights you told me about. Well, thanks, you returned the favour!  ;)
Cheers and KneeDeep.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #200 on: January 11, 2018, 01:28:58 PM »

you aren't paying attention....

Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #201 on: January 11, 2018, 01:53:57 PM »
Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?


If he told us, it wouldn't be a secret anymore.......






Magnetic field interactions in a plasma take place entirely internally.
Similar to thermal convection.
There is no external "magnetic pressure".
The net external magnetic field is neutralized by the combination of
many plasma dipoles that float around within the plasma fluid.


The plasma will respond (or deflect from) an externally applied field
However, the external field feels very little force from the plasma.


The net (external) electric field of a plasma can be thought of as coherent,
However, the magnetic field remains scattered. There is an almost evenly
distributed sets of magnetic polarities external to the plasma mass.


To compound this process, each group, or packet of plasma, within the mass,
has its own unique mass, and properties of thermal and electric convection.
Owing to its' mass, the count of ions, and non-ionized particles, groups of particles,
electric charges, and other material floating within.


These groups of differing mass, cause the plasma fluid to take on properties that are
unique to plasmas, and do not occur in liquids or gasses.


For instance, a liquid can be polarized magnetically, such that the liquid mass as a whole
accumulates to a net external magnetic dipole.
Whereas each plasma mass group within the sample of a plasma in a magnetic field,
will respond according to the mass of the individual plasma group, and its individual
magnetic field strength. Making it impossible to polarize the entire plasma sample into a
single magnetic domain.


So, while we can use an external magnetic field to redirect, or contain a plasma,
We have very little control over the internal magnetic fields, or their use as an
external driving force.




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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #201 on: January 11, 2018, 01:53:57 PM »
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Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #202 on: January 11, 2018, 03:09:50 PM »
A nice dramatic demonstration too, I might add. You and I are reading from the same book, we're just on different pages with our research.


 ;)

Mind you, your persistent references to Tesla's ozone generator on this forum, lifted the fog for me, and I could see one lilly pad in the pond that I've been on before but I hadn't fully explored around it  ??? . But I will explore. :) 


my dogma... contrary to popular opinion, the ozone patent gives the basic building blocks and relations between said blocks for establishing the impossible...maintenance of the same demands a deeper understanding of the blocks and their relations, that information is provided in other documents.

Those sleepless nights you told me about. Well, thanks, you returned the favour!  ;)
Cheers and KneeDeep.


you get back what you give out.  You had me stumped, curious, and hopeful, ergo sleepless.....  Returning the favour is the least I can do! 


Regards

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #203 on: January 11, 2018, 03:10:53 PM »
Yes, Sir,
I have been working round the clock.
Thank you for your waking me up.
This thread is about secret of overunity, right?
Where is your secret?


you aren't paying attention.....

Offline Cadman

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #204 on: January 11, 2018, 03:11:28 PM »
Nobody says anything about this, but since Erfinder made the videos public I guess it's alright to mention it.

Doesn't anyone notice the huge block of dielectric material the motor is sitting on with the capacitors stuck in it?

All three videos, and in the second video one wire that he is drawing the arc to/from runs into that dielectric block.

The motors are air core with a heavy dielectric polymer casing.

(PS. I am talking about electrostatic waves.)
Yeah......here's the thing....I am not just talking about systems involving them.....I am demonstrating what one can do with systems which produce them.......  fire breathing pulse motor.....show me yours!

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #204 on: January 11, 2018, 03:11:28 PM »
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Offline CoastieRM2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #205 on: January 11, 2018, 04:10:43 PM »
Brief introduction as I am a newbie. I am a retired former Industrial Arts educator attempting to keep the mind active with a shared challenge of OverUnity.  Have been an inactive observer of this website for sometime now and after a few years of trial and error, felt that it might benefit me to interact with others seeking same. I would like basic input on ethics of posting as I occasionally see less than polite references to contributors efforts. I am not certain where it is appropriate to post any personal efforts/results. Are the threads open or closed to personal input/progress? Thanks for any assistance in this area. I will post this on threads that interest me the most.



Hmmmm, 7 days and still no moderator.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 05:17:57 AM by CoastieRM2 »

Offline Erfinder

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #206 on: January 11, 2018, 04:26:49 PM »
Nobody says anything about this, but since Erfinder made the videos public I guess it's alright to mention it.

Doesn't anyone notice the huge block of dielectric material the motor is sitting on with the capacitors stuck in it?


It's just a big block of foam.....its purpose is vibration dampening....  ignore the little capacitors stuck in it...

All three videos, and in the second video one wire that he is drawing the arc to/from runs into that dielectric block.


the gen wingdings do not run into the foam support....lol....

The motors are air core with a heavy dielectric polymer casing.

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yes...the super structure of my machines are acrylic, and they are air core.  The dielectric nature of the material I have chosen to use does not come in to play for reasons which should be apparent.

Offline Cadman

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #207 on: January 11, 2018, 04:32:20 PM »
Ookaaay....

Then I am back to square one. Sure had me fooled.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #208 on: January 11, 2018, 06:30:09 PM »
I am trying to get a better appreciation for the difference between 2 words.
Opposite
Opposition
Opposite forces can be complimentary, push-pull, positive-negative,,,
Oppositional forces preclude either from doing work.
My take so far is that if you build a complimentary system "you" put in all the energy and as such "you" can take it back out, whereas if you build an oppositional system "you" put in no energy do to no change in some part of the system that the opposition precludes.


so, for every action there is an opposing reaction, could there also be a complimentary condition as well?
If so, could the input be an oppositional condition where the Universe supplies the complimentary component?
This is what I am playing with in the mechanical realm using levers and gravity, looking for the Universe to supply a reactionary response.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #209 on: January 11, 2018, 10:14:16 PM »
Against my better judgment I am going to reply to this post of yours.  Please do not interpret it as the beginnings of an exchange, we have been down that road, we have nothing in common, I do not care to repeat any of our low moments.  This reply is to establish my position with regards to some of the statements you've made.


I am trying to get a better appreciation for the difference between 2 words.
 Opposite
 Opposition
 Opposite forces can be complimentary, push-pull, positive-negative,,,
 Oppositional forces preclude either from doing work.
 My take so far is that if you build a complimentary system "you" put in all the energy and as such "you" can take it back out, whereas if you build an oppositional system "you" put in no energy do to no change in some part of the system that the opposition precludes.


if you say so.....  the idea I see repeated often is the majority cannot identify unity in what they consider opposite or oppositional.
 
so, for every action there is an opposing reaction, could there also be a complimentary condition as well?


One can setup a relatively simple experiment and from said experiment inform oneself of the inaccuracy of the above stated in bold.  We must recognize as fact that reaction is simultaneous-sequential with action!  Our inability to observe this on the bench lies in our lack of understanding, and this coupled with poor experiments to verify the same.


If so, could the input be an oppositional condition where the Universe supplies the complimentary component?
 This is what I am playing with in the mechanical realm using levers and gravity, looking for the Universe to supply a reactionary response.
 


I find it curious how from a comfortable position of ignorance, we contemplate the possibility of the universe aiding us in perpetuating our ignorance....
The universe isn't going to help anyone, shouldn't be expected to assist anyone who isn't in the position to help him/herself.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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