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Grumage

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #120 on: December 25, 2017, 05:56:04 PM »
Merry Christmas Everybody.

A slightly more " pedestrian " video than the one I watched presented by Tinsel Koala.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwHqV1NpHs

We should be able to move a little Mass with 20,000 volts!   ;)

Cheers Graham.

Void

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #121 on: December 25, 2017, 07:39:46 PM »
Merry Christmas Everybody.
A slightly more " pedestrian " video than the one I watched presented by Tinsel Koala.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwHqV1NpHs
We should be able to move a little Mass with 20,000 volts!   ;)
Cheers Graham.

Hi Grum. Very nice demo! I believe that kind of setup is called 'Franklin's Bell' or 'Franklin's Bells'.
Yes, lots of power there to move some significant mass. If you replaced the the two metal balls
on the sides with metal Christmas bells, then you could have a real Christmas type demo.  ;D
Nice job!

All the best...

SolarLab

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #122 on: December 26, 2017, 07:09:19 AM »
Merry Christmas Everybody.

A slightly more " pedestrian " video than the one I watched presented by Tinsel Koala.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwHqV1NpHs

We should be able to move a little Mass with 20,000 volts!   ;)

Cheers Graham.

Merry Christmas Graham,

An interesting [thought provoking] demo, thank you!

Could you please share some details regarding:

(1) the metal ball diameter,
(2) weight {if you know it}
(3) sphere material {stainless, grade, ... if known},
(4) voltage {20KV DC?}, and consumed current {if measurable},
(5) distance of ball travel and approximate reverse dwell time and speed?

Might be a good CAE/CAD candidate "demo add-on."
Worth a try at any rate - to see if the simulation comes close to the experimental results.

Thanks in advance,

SL
 

sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2017, 12:53:50 PM »
Merry Christmas Graham,

An interesting [thought provoking] demo, thank you!

Could you please share some details regarding:

(1) the metal ball diameter,
(2) weight {if you know it}
(3) sphere material {stainless, grade, ... if known},
(4) voltage {20KV DC?}, and consumed current {if measurable},
(5) distance of ball travel and approximate reverse dwell time and speed?

Might be a good CAE/CAD candidate "demo add-on."
Worth a try at any rate - to see if the simulation comes close to the experimental results.

Thanks in advance,

SL


The field equations indicate a spacial surface area effect dominates the electric field
The larger the diameter (and subsequent surface area), the less significant mass becomes.
According to mathematical theory, larger balls will have the potential to move more mass.


Grumage

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #124 on: December 26, 2017, 01:25:41 PM »

The field equations indicate a spacial surface area effect dominates the electric field
The larger the diameter (and subsequent surface area), the less significant mass becomes.
According to mathematical theory, larger balls will have the potential to move more mass.

More to come....

Video update planned for later today.

Cheers Graham.

Grumage

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #125 on: December 26, 2017, 05:09:27 PM »
As promised.    :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4XlD4YP5Kc

Cheers Graham.

wattsup

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #126 on: December 26, 2017, 06:41:13 PM »
@Grumage

A question if possible. On your video, are the two non-moving balls secured to their present position in any way?

Observation: If they are, since the balls are 6" dia. and since the travel between the balls is 1 foot, maybe you can take a small thin wire coil tapped to the top of the center ball with a thin insulator while the center ball is centered between the two end balls and put that on a scope as it moves left and right.

The question I would have is what are the actual movements of the ball. It is a steady smooth movement or is it a collection of jagged micro nudges that are nudging the ball in each direction?

wattsup


Grumage

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #127 on: December 26, 2017, 08:16:47 PM »
My dear Wattsup.

There's no way on earth I'd put my scope anywhere near 40,000 volts!!

Yes the end spheres are quite well anchored using Blu tack.

Another way might be to do a short clip taken at high speed and then watch in real time?

The centre sphere is always charged up to the potential that each end has, positive or negative, that charge acting then to repel itself away and become attracted towards the other end.

Cheers Graham.

SolarLab

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2017, 10:28:41 PM »
As promised.    :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4XlD4YP5Kc

Cheers Graham.

Hi Graham,

Thanks for the spec's, Excellent! 

Looking forward to reviewing what several premier CAE tools come up with.
May take a little while - have to set up the analysis and fit in some workstation time
[some of these take days to run, fix, and re-run].

Glad you clarified the florescent tube mystery - 40KV - at first glance, well - you
know - tubes are dark?   ;)

Quite an impressive scenario you developed!

SmOky2 - maybe a good "optimization goal:"
  Voltage vs Size/Weight vs Distance/Speed?  Academic? - not entirely...

Also: recall Prof. Gerald H. Pollack, University of Washington, book/videos
"Fourth Phase of Water;"     ""Likes like like""" ???   Starts about 9:20 in video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-T7tCMUDXU
   And; Water => free energy discussion at about 12:50.
Anyway, sometimes things may not be exactly what we "think" they should be. Oh well - TBD.

SL

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #129 on: December 26, 2017, 11:36:38 PM »

sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #130 on: December 27, 2017, 02:43:22 AM »
1 coulomb on each ball
Placed 1 meter apart


F = something to the tune of 9^9 Newtons?
Of course our balls aren’t THAT big.....


But if you Do decide to go for it
Plz wear a faraday suit


You don’t need 40lbs of copper like mine
Thin steel wire armor will work
Try to avoid aluminum, your suit will ionize


sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #131 on: December 27, 2017, 02:43:54 AM »
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« Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 04:59:14 PM by Grumage »

Void

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2017, 11:51:51 AM »
Hey guys. See the following video of a test circuit I was testing
with this evening. I'd be interested to get some feedback on these test results:
The circuit is powered with a single AA battery. There are no other sources
of power to the circuit. Output has a 2000uF capacitor connected at the output
to try to collect 'radiant' energy from the oscillator switching spikes. This output capacitor
voltage is fed back to the battery to try to self loop the test setup. The battery voltage is
bouncing between 12.86V and 12.87V throughout the test run shown in the video.

(Sorry for the messy test clip leads, but when I am doing initial testing I often use
test clip leads so I can quickly make changes to the setup to try out and compare
different configurations.)

Blocking Oscillator With Feedback - Self Loop Test Setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkbRvD0b2J0

What do you think? Choose one of the following:
a) Looks like probably a self-sustaining circuit, or very close.
b) Looks like it might be a self-sustaining circuit, but not so sure.
c) Can't really tell based on this video.
d) Over unity is impossible, so this circuit just can't be self-sustaining.
e) A light is lighting up quite bright while the battery voltage remains
   pretty stable, so it must be over unity.
f) This is the secret to over unity.
g) Void, you must have rocks in your head.


All the best...
;)


sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #133 on: December 27, 2017, 12:09:12 PM »
I’m gonna go with G here


did you measure the charging current at the battery?
You probably want to back the V down a bit
closer to the charging voltage of your AA
led should still light up 7.5-8v,maybe lower depending on the diode.


12v (with enough current) will charge a AA, but you risk some events.


The real test would be how much is actually being returned to the battery.
For that you need an oscilloscope to see the frequency, pulse width, off-time, etc.


Or run it for some time, then turn it off and test the battery.
Or you could just wait......  that may take a while, some JT’s can run for months like that.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2017, 03:47:16 PM »

Hey guys. See the following video of a test circuit I was testing
with this evening. I'd be interested to get some feedback on these test results:
The circuit is powered with a single AA battery. There are no other sources
of power to the circuit. Output has a 2000uF capacitor connected at the output
to try to collect 'radiant' energy from the oscillator switching spikes. This output capacitor
voltage is fed back to the battery to try to self loop the test setup. The battery voltage is
bouncing between 12.86V and 12.87V throughout the test run shown in the video.

(Sorry for the messy test clip leads, but when I am doing initial testing I often use
test clip leads so I can quickly make changes to the setup to try out and compare
different configurations.)

Blocking Oscillator With Feedback - Self Loop Test Setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkbRvD0b2J0

What do you think? Choose one of the following:
a) Looks like probably a self-sustaining circuit, or very close.
b) Looks like it might be a self-sustaining circuit, but not so sure.
c) Can't really tell based on this video.
d) Over unity is impossible, so this circuit just can't be self-sustaining.
e) A light is lighting up quite bright while the battery voltage remains
   pretty stable, so it must be over unity.
f) This is the secret to over unity.
g) Void, you must have rocks in your head.


All the best...
 ;)


Well!!  For a guy that has no problem hitting others when they say that is possible to get self runners, I SHOULD give you the same treatment... But I will not..  Give us more date on how you have conduct your experiment and we can conclude on results..