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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #195 on: January 13, 2018, 10:55:53 AM »
Err pardon me but shouldn't we be exposing perhaps selections of circuit techniques or disusing them, rather than having re runs of quote flash backs from Kung fu  Chinese Tae Che from master Po (Keyle Luke).

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #196 on: January 13, 2018, 01:39:43 PM »
From https://www.google.com/patents/US8847720 (B2 = US patent office granted) going to citing documents in the WO-espacenet :

Lukas Emch
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=20061031&DB=&locale=&CC=CH&NR=695975A5&KC=A5&ND=3#
( CH-patent office granted)

probably a help

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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #197 on: January 13, 2018, 02:42:08 PM »
Well all I can say to you is if you don't want to disclose any ideas or active device sections why on earth should we. There are plenty of devices and ideas on the internet only find them and build and test them.

Allen

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #198 on: January 13, 2018, 02:44:43 PM »
Err pardon me but shouldn't we be exposing perhaps selections of circuit techniques or disusing them, rather than having re runs of quote flash backs from Kung fu  Chinese Tae Che from master Po (Keyle Luke).

Allen


Well, I am playing in the mechanical\gravity area so circuit techniques are not where I am at.


IMHO there is no such thing as OU, what is labeled as OU will only be OU until all of the parts that are working together are observed and understood, then it will no longer be OU.




Offline Belfior

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #199 on: January 13, 2018, 04:02:28 PM »

Honestly.....I am not interested in your ideas...nor sections of devices you may or may not be working on.  I am not interested in devices presented (save one or two which I have researched) on the internet.  Replicating other peoples failures will not get me where I want to be.  I am where I want to be, and share what I want, how I want.

Honestly...We are not interested in "ideas" that are not shared either. Everybody can be a dick. You don't need a forum for that.


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #199 on: January 13, 2018, 04:02:28 PM »
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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #200 on: January 13, 2018, 04:08:38 PM »
Thank you for your reply, I beg to consider your true direction if your not 'The Secret Of Overunity'  ;D ;D
and before you misquote me how are others quotes on the internet mine ? and how do you know if they are failures or not, you don't really know, control and conjecture is just a trip down the rabbit hole.

I will say good day to you and not bother you again.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #201 on: January 13, 2018, 05:13:07 PM »
The "control circuit" is not what needs to be discussed, that part falls out from the needs of what is being done.


The question then, IMO, is what is being controlled, and then why.  These two questions lead to the "how" part.
I am not "controlling" gravity, it is what it is, what I am trying to control is the reaction my levers and systems have to gravity, to direct where the manifested forces "can" act.  I am then trying to take those reactions and have them work more in one direction than another.  Within my systems there are many balance points, some dealing with the Center of Mass and another the Center of Force, either one can be in balance and since I can not "control" gravity but I can change the force reaction, move the center of force away from the main pivot\axle, this is what I am trying to control.


What is it you are trying to control and why?

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #201 on: January 13, 2018, 05:13:07 PM »
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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #202 on: January 13, 2018, 08:28:33 PM »
as to what, the reactive cross section of the system....  as to why, to be introduced to the inner workings of the mechanism behind opposition to change....


not the first time you have said this, yet it is general enough to be applicable to what I am doing.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #203 on: January 13, 2018, 11:59:04 PM »
as to what, the reactive cross section of the system....  as to why, to be introduced to the inner workings of the mechanism behind opposition to change....
Delay the flow of output current until it can aid the input current is how I am seeing this.

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #204 on: January 14, 2018, 11:13:11 PM »
recycling of energy.
put a current into a magnetic coil.
create resonance in a parallel coil.
capture the back emf of the magnetic coil into a capacitor.
Buffer the stored back emf until the right phase angle,
and reinsert the back emf from the capacitor into the resonant coil.
The coil becomes even more resonant (higher voltage).
The resonant coil is coupled to the magnetic coil.
This creates a feedback loop.

A second resonant coil is resonant with the first resonant coil.
rectify the high frequency second coil for output.

Magnetic coupling is slave to Lenz law.
Electric field coupling is not.


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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #205 on: January 16, 2018, 03:55:42 AM »
Take the 3rd phase of a commercially engineered motor/generator
Reverse it, use it as a capacitor
you sacrifice 1/3 torque, but cancel 2/3 of the reverse emf
So you gain ~33% efficiency on a motor that runs at 85-93% already
mathematically, there is a quantity that “should not be there”,
yet here there is a motor providing 66% of its max power
with 33% of its normal input.


it is the same process we consider “reactive power”
but the phase angle is different than what is considered
in power factor adjustments.
this is not just a metering issue.


Reactive power can be used outside of the normal increasing/collapsing field.
if we consider the times during the transition
which is what the 3-phase induction motor is designed to interact with
there are times during which both conduction and induction
occur simultaneously.


the 2-phase motor, or the 3-phase operating on only two coils,
have a direct relationship between conduction and induction.
But throw a 3-rd field into play, at anything other than the right time,
and both the forward and reverse relationship between the two change completely


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #206 on: January 16, 2018, 04:09:08 AM »


Magnetic coupling is slave to Lenz law.
Electric field coupling is not.


I wouldn’t go that far.
According to Maxwell, the magnetic field is always present,
when there is electric flux.


Though the magnitudes may seem small relative to ourselves
They most certainly still are there.


I’m pretty confident I could figure a way to prove this with nanoferrites
But it’s probably a redundant waste of time like putting a c-speed particle clock
on a rapidly moving vessel.....


If we don’t use it, we don’t have to worry about it, until we do.
like an idea of this? Next time the power goes out, wait for your street side transformer
to kick back in, and throw a fork at it.


Or if you want to get fancy, set up a few hundred magnetized needles of strings around
your room when you charge a large sphere with static electricity and shock yourself.
(homework: why do dense steel needles react more violently than soft-iron paper clips?)






Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #207 on: January 17, 2018, 09:34:11 AM »

reactive power generation and utilization.....that's my direction.



the bottom line of all those I have studied is "reactive power generation and utilization".  Most were not openly discussing the subject in a language that all could appreciate, reading between the lines was necessary.  I read between the lines like any good researcher could/would.  The rest were failures, they neither inspired nor delivered working demonstrable concepts. 


I am not here to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling, not here to give you something to nitpick or replicate.  I am sharing what I want how I want.  Place me on your ignore list if my post lack the substance you crave.
If I wanted input from one of Godre'el's trolls id ask for it, BUT I DIDN'T ! now go away and stop CREATING verbal diarrhea like a gaboladicton and messaging me with it  'respectfully' STOP it!

Offline endlessoceans

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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #208 on: January 18, 2018, 12:41:47 AM »

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No one I have met has ever produced an air core generator which accelerates under short.....
No one I have met has ever produced an 1000 rpm increase in their acceleration under short demonstrations....


Regards


I have done both.  Solid state and mechanical.  Principle well understood and it far beyond anything that has ever been posted at this site, that's for sure.


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Re: The secret to Overunity
« Reply #209 on: January 18, 2018, 06:09:06 AM »
Me too.

Also:

Reactive power generation and utilization:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLml9VdOeqKa-k7J7vO_I22fVc-h8wcdLf

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Re: The secret to Overunity
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